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Mostly because the JEB/CRUZ/MITTENS whiney-ass alleged Republicans had their widdle feelings hurten over their personal crime lord traitor not being elected,so they wouldn't back him. Unless of course you think that means "stick a knife in his back". They were and are on board for that because he came in and upset apple carts it had taken them generations to establish.
I really don't think the GOP wanted Cruz, either.  IIRC, they wanted Trump because they expected they could make deals with him, and that Cruz would have been less malleable.
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I really don't think the GOP wanted Cruz, either.  IIRC, they wanted Trump because they expected they could make deals with him, and that Cruz would have been less malleable.

I agree.  I got the impression that Cruz was their worst nightmare.  They weren't sure what to expect from Trump.

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I agree.  I got the impression that Cruz was their worst nightmare. 

With Omar and her ilk already in the House of Representatives and tens of thousands more marching toward it shouldn't we at long last be seeking to strengthen the NBC requirement for the presidency?

Just sayin'.

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With Omar and her ilk already in the House of Representatives and tens of thousands more marching toward it shouldn't we at long last be seeking to strengthen the NBC requirement for the presidency?

Just sayin'.

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I really don't think the GOP wanted Cruz, either.  IIRC, they wanted Trump because they expected they could make deals with him, and that Cruz would have been less malleable.

And they were right re: that.
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Despite the source link whose name some may not care for, there were all of these national emergencies under the previous 3 predecessors.

https://welovetrump.com/2019/01/08/full-list-of-national-emergencies-declared-by-obama-bush-clinton-is-published/

I'm not sure how it compares to the current one but they are kind of odd to read about. For Obama, it was often about aid to other countries but all of the last 3 presidents had national emergencies.

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Past emergencies have focused on everything from swine flu to rough diamonds.

Here's a list of the 28 active national emergencies:

1. Blocking Iranian Government Property (Nov. 14, 1979)

2. Proliferation of Weapons of Mass Destruction (Nov. 14, 1994)

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Less electable too, let's not go through this song and dance again.

Trump has done many pro-life things, I'm glad I'm part of it, he fights for us every day.  Go bark at the moon if you don't like it. They are awash in their own selfish importance.

After decades of voting for the nominee, I'm not going to look at the idiotic way that it is not about whom is nominated, Bush, Dole, Romney, McCain and so on.
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Despite the source link whose name some may not care for, there were all of these national emergencies under the previous 3 predecessors.

https://welovetrump.com/2019/01/08/full-list-of-national-emergencies-declared-by-obama-bush-clinton-is-published/

I'm not sure how it compares to the current one but they are kind of odd to read about. For Obama, it was often about aid to other countries but all of the last 3 presidents had national emergencies.

So, basically.... of all of the previous NEs declared by previous presidents.....

Trump's NE re: border security is the ONLY one that actually is or could be called a ...

national emergency (invasion by migrants).

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And they were right re: that.

We do not know that.  What we do know is that the locked-in Republicans would not have been any more friendly and cooperative with Ted Cruz than they have been with Trump.  Both men were way too conservative for them and outsiders.
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We do not know that.  What we do know is that the locked-in Republicans would not have been any more friendly and cooperative with Ted Cruz than they have been with Trump.  Both men were way too conservative for them and outsiders.

Oh, I do know that Cruz would have been less cooperative with the idiot left.  But yeah, they would have hated Cruz just as much if not more, because of that.
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I really don't think the GOP wanted Cruz, either.  IIRC, they wanted Trump because they expected they could make deals with him, and that Cruz would have been less malleable.

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I dunno. Maybe,maybe not. I think this is one of those deals where you would have to be an insider yourself to really know. It's not the kind of thing pols talk about with outsiders.
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So, basically.... of all of the previous NEs declared by previous presidents.....

Trump's NE re: border security is the ONLY one that actually is or could be called a ...

national emergency (invasion by migrants).

@XenaLee

You are just going to have to forgive Trump for that. He is an outsider,and didn't know how the system worked.
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Oh, I do know that Cruz would have been less cooperative with the idiot left.  But yeah, they would have hated Cruz just as much if not more, because of that.

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I think that if there was anything they were going to be mad at Cruz about it would start with him being named "Cruz" and not a part of their professional victim brotherhood. They would have wanted him to run as a Mexican instead of an American so they could join the professional victum parade.

The word "contempt" just isn't strong enough to express what I think of the typical alleged Republican.
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Beats rolling into a ball and sucking our thumbs.

I do believe Trump, as has everyone before him who has cared about this issue and wanted to do something about it, has exhausted just about every other means to accomplish what we all know needs to happen to divert the country from its current trajectory. I favor something over nothing.

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You are so spot on! At least Trump is fighting to get the wall built. So many others have talked a big game and done nothing. I really don't care that Trump is not the most articulate, or precise, speaker. He fights and he is relentless in pursuing his goal.
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She is, but more to the point...it could happen and nothing to stop the declaration. However, there’s no basis to divert funds in the laws for climate change as their is for security of our borders.

Also, FWIW, the law was written so that Congress can be reactive if a declaration is made. I believe all they have to do is get a simple majority in both houses to nullify the declaration. They are required to bring the vote up within 14 days of the declaration and I don't believe the President can veto it.

If the Rats want to destroy the country with some socialist crap I say bring it on. I think a lot of Rats will vote against it when they discover all their special interest money will dry up because the govt nationalized, or outlawed whole industries. If not I think it's a good bet that the citizens will go ballistic once the economy collapses.
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I really don't think the GOP wanted Cruz, either.  IIRC, they wanted Trump because they expected they could make deals with him, and that Cruz would have been less malleable.

Also, Cruz had a better working knowledge of the system and how to work around it. I think to Trump's credit though he is much stronger with head on attacks of his opponents.
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Also, Cruz had a better working knowledge of the system and how to work around it. I think to Trump's credit though he is much stronger with head on attacks of his opponents.

Yes, that could be.

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Also, Cruz had a better working knowledge of the system and how to work around it. I think to Trump's credit though he is much stronger with head on attacks of his opponents.

'Head-on attacks' should not be considered a strength.

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You are so spot on! At least Trump is fighting to get the wall built. So many others have talked a big game and done nothing. I really don't care that Trump is not the most articulate, or precise, speaker. He fights and he is relentless in pursuing his goal.

Well... it remains to be seen as to whether Trump has 'talked a big game and done nothing'.... since what's in this bill he signed seems to be detrimental to building da wall.
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You are so spot on! At least Trump is fighting to get the wall built. So many others have talked a big game and done nothing. I really don't care that Trump is not the most articulate, or precise, speaker. He fights and he is relentless in pursuing his goal.

Well whether we like it or not Trump is all we’ve got. I find myself feeling sorry for the guy, he’s up against a wall of DC beltway sh* t. He’s made plenty of mistakes but he seems to be still in there trying. We shall see how it goes.
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You are so spot on! At least Trump is fighting to get the wall built. So many others have talked a big game and done nothing. I really don't care that Trump is not the most articulate, or precise, speaker. He fights and he is relentless in pursuing his goal.

Me, three.  Advocates of a wall will never find a better advocate for one than Donald Trump.
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