THE HOUSE IS SET TO VOTE ON TRILLION DOLLAR SPENDING BILL. NO ONE HAS READ IT

[edpc]

Line item veto, Mr. President.

Already ruled unconstitutional, 20 years ago.

[edpc]

She's pulling the same trick she did with Obamacare...ram it through...pass it on party lines before anyone has a chance to read what they've hidden in the back pages that undermines anything the President is trying to do on immigration.

That maybe true, but last year, during the omnibus signing, this particular president said, “But I say to Congress that I will never sign another bill like this again. I'm not going to do it again. Nobody read it, it’s only hours old."

[txradioguy]

That maybe true, but last year, during the omnibus signing, this particular president said, “But I say to Congress that I will never sign another bill like this again. I'm not going to do it again. Nobody read it, it’s only hours old."

And he's already said he's gonna sign it.

"read my lips"

[Bigun]

I would like to see term limits.

Term limits would do nothing except make things easier and cheaper for the people over on K Street.  Makes the unelected beauracrats even more powerful than they already are

[edpc]

And he's already said he's gonna sign it.

"read my lips"

This is a different Congress and the bill is $300B less than the last one. So, I suppose he’s covered.   

[bigheadfred]

Term limits would do nothing except make things easier and cheaper for the people over on K Street.  Makes the unelected beauracrats even more powerful than they already are

So limit lobbying. Take away those bureaucrats "right" to not be fired.

[Fishrrman]

EdJames wrote:
"How will this ever be stopped?"

I grin whenever I see comments like yours from members of this forum (who probably take pride in calling themselves "fiscal conservatives").

It will NEVER be "stopped", until circumstances that politicians don't, won't, or can't control actually STOP it.

Then, and only then, will those with the powers to do so actually attempt to correct things.
(I said "attempt")

The budget (and its excesses, and the resulting deficits) are like the proverbial Vietnamese village that first had to be destroyed before it could be "saved".

But mark these words:
The steps taken that will actually correct "the problems" will be draconian and totalitarian.
You're not gonna like 'em!

[Fishrrman]

Bele wrote:
"Line item veto, Mr. President."

That's unconstitutional, as the issue litigated before the U.S. Supreme Court back around 1998 or so. The Court said "no".

[Sanguine]

If anyone is interested, here are the Senate "no" votes:

Statistically Notable Votes
Vote    Party    Representative    State
Nay      R      Cotton, Tom    AR
Nay      D      Harris, Kamala    CA
Nay      R      Rubio, Marco    FL
Nay      R      Braun, Mike    IN
Nay      R      Paul, Rand    KY
Nay      D      Markey, Ed    MA
Nay      D      Warren, Elizabeth    MA
Nay      R      Hawley, Joshua    MO
Nay      R      Sasse, Benjamin    NE
Nay      D      Booker, Cory    NJ
Nay      D      Gillibrand, Kirsten    NY
Nay      R      Inhofe, Jim    OK
Nay      R      Toomey, Pat    PA
Nay      R      Scott, Tim    SC
Nay      R      Cruz, Ted    TX
Nay      R      Lee, Mike    UT

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/116-2019/s26

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

If anyone is interested, here are the Senate "no" votes:

Anyone want to bet on how many of those Dems are running in 2020?

[corbe]

    Thanks for that @Sanguine I was looking  for it earlier, looks like a solid block of Conservative? Senators voted against.

[Sanguine]

    Thanks for that @Sanguine I was looking  for it earlier, looks like a solid block of Conservative? Senators voted against.

Yes, it does.

[roamer_1]

    Thanks for that @Sanguine I was looking  for it earlier, looks like a solid block of Conservative? Senators voted against.

YEP. That tells me all I need to know.

[Chosen Daughter]

YEP. That tells me all I need to know.

Me too.  That Trump should vote nay too.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Anyone want to bet on how many of those Dems are running in 2020?

1 out of 5. Gillibrand
3 of the other 4 are running for President in 2020.  The bill passed both chambers of Congress with VETO-proof majorities

[Formerly Once-Ler]

    Thanks for that @Sanguine I was looking  for it earlier, looks like a solid block of Conservative? Senators voted against.

It's a little over 20% of the GOP Senate.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1096229706175733760
Ann Coulter @AnnCoulter

He CAN'T declare a national emergency to do something a bill he signed prevents him from doing.

https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1096229840980652034
Ann Coulter @AnnCoulter

Now you know: Trump's "national emergency" ruse was always just a way to fool the rubes in his base.

 

[RetBobbyMI]

https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1096229706175733760
Ann Coulter @AnnCoulter

He CAN'T declare a national emergency to do something a bill he signed prevents him from doing.

https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1096229840980652034
Ann Coulter @AnnCoulter

Now you know: Trump's "national emergency" ruse was always just a way to fool the rubes in his base.

 

She is just bloviating, making statements without any specifics source. Sorta like some do here.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

She is just bloviating, making statements without any specifics source. Sorta like some do here.

Are you speaking of yourself?  Because I provided links.

[RetBobbyMI]

Are you speaking of yourself?  Because I provided links.

No. Links to bloviating tweets provides no substance.

[sneakypete]

Nobody is going to read it,either. At MOST,some will double check to make sure THEIR "piece of pork" isn't missing,but that's it.

This won't change until and unless "We,the people" start climbing up on their backs and INSISTING they read and debate any spending bill in open chambers before they can even vote on it.

[RetBobbyMI]

Nobody is going to read it,either. At MOST,some will double check to make sure THEIR "piece of pork" isn't missing,but that's it.

This won't change until and unless "We,the people" start climbing up on their backs and INSISTING they read and debate any spending bill in open chambers before they can even vote on it.

There already are rules in places, but both parties routinely dispense with the rules by majority vote and do whatever they want.

[sneakypete]

There already are rules in places, but both parties routinely dispense with the rules by majority vote and do whatever they want.

@RetBobbyMI

Well,that's only fair since we all know that laws are only for the "little people",right?

[Chosen Daughter]

We have met the enemy, and it is us.
 
Bad behavior follows bad culture.

And so, this will continue indefinitely until (or unless) the American people decide to stop asking for unearned favors from our elected representatives.

In effect, we are giving away our freedom and abdicating our responsibilities in exchange for false promises of security to be paid by faceless and nameless others.

Interesting take, and duly noted.

[Chosen Daughter]

Nobody is going to read it,either. At MOST,some will double check to make sure THEIR "piece of pork" isn't missing,but that's it.

This won't change until and unless "We,the people" start climbing up on their backs and INSISTING they read and debate any spending bill in open chambers before they can even vote on it.

Oh, the liberals know what's in it.  You can bet every Latino group, and Immigration lawyers knows too.