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Shameful Scapegoating Of Africa Failure Underscores Unchecked Pentagon Incompetence
 
American men and women are still being sent to far-off lands, under-trained and under-equipped, to fight in conflicts that have little congressional oversight and little payoff for U.S. strategy.

By Ellis Domenech   
February 11, 2019

 
Over the past year there have been numerous leadership failures at the highest levels of the military in regards to the October 2017 ambush of a Special Forces unit in Tongo Tongo, Niger. The latest is the reinstatement of a reprimand for the team leader, Capt. Michael Perozeni.

Since the ambush, four-star general officers have done everything in their power to avoid taking any responsibility for their command’s failures. Instead, they push blame down to the lowest possible levels, desperately searching for scapegoats to deflect blame from their careers and systemic failures within the services. The solution is not to fault soldiers under fire, but to fix the universal problems in higher commands.

Army Command Policy states, “Commanders are responsible for everything their command does or fails to do. However, commanders subdivide responsibility and authority and assign portions of both to various subordinate commanders and staff members. In this way, a proper degree of responsibility becomes inherent in each command echelon. Commanders delegate sufficient authority to Soldiers in the chain of command to accomplish their assigned duties, and commanders may hold these Soldiers responsible for their actions. Commanders who assign responsibility and authority to their subordinates still retain the overall responsibility for the actions of their commands.”

The Pentagon seems to believe that responsibility only rests on the shoulders of the lowest-level commanders. In Niger, it was Perozeni who told his superiors his unit was not properly equipped or supported to take on the mission. He subsequently followed his orders and had four of his soldiers killed. He was also shot. He performed admirably in a terrible situation and has been submitted for the Silver Star.

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http://thefederalist.com/2019/02/11/shameful-scapegoating-africa-failure-underscores-unchecked-pentagon-incompetence/
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So, what the heck are we doing in Niger anyway?

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Shameful Scapegoating Of Africa Failure Underscores Unchecked Pentagon Incompetence
 
American men and women are still being sent to far-off lands, under-trained and under-equipped, to fight in conflicts that have little congressional oversight and little payoff for U.S. strategy.

By Ellis Domenech   
February 11, 2019

 
Over the past year there have been numerous leadership failures at the highest levels of the military in regards to the October 2017 ambush of a Special Forces unit in Tongo Tongo, Niger. The latest is the reinstatement of a reprimand for the team leader, Capt. Michael Perozeni.

Since the ambush, four-star general officers have done everything in their power to avoid taking any responsibility for their command’s failures. Instead, they push blame down to the lowest possible levels, desperately searching for scapegoats to deflect blame from their careers and systemic failures within the services. The solution is not to fault soldiers under fire, but to fix the universal problems in higher commands.

Army Command Policy states, “Commanders are responsible for everything their command does or fails to do. However, commanders subdivide responsibility and authority and assign portions of both to various subordinate commanders and staff members. In this way, a proper degree of responsibility becomes inherent in each command echelon. Commanders delegate sufficient authority to Soldiers in the chain of command to accomplish their assigned duties, and commanders may hold these Soldiers responsible for their actions. Commanders who assign responsibility and authority to their subordinates still retain the overall responsibility for the actions of their commands.”

The Pentagon seems to believe that responsibility only rests on the shoulders of the lowest-level commanders. In Niger, it was Perozeni who told his superiors his unit was not properly equipped or supported to take on the mission. He subsequently followed his orders and had four of his soldiers killed. He was also shot. He performed admirably in a terrible situation and has been submitted for the Silver Star.

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http://thefederalist.com/2019/02/11/shameful-scapegoating-africa-failure-underscores-unchecked-pentagon-incompetence/

First of all,it wasn't a "Special Forces Team". It was a bunch of non-SF qualified people who were assigned to SF SUPPORT UNITS that were out on a non-combat mission to do what they were trained to do,and some butthole in the rear got intel on enemy troops nearby,so he got a brain fart that told him to order these guys to form up and go after them.

This is pretty much the slow-motion suicide equivalent of ordering them to fly helicopters if they don't know how to fly. ONLY bad things could have happened,and that IS what happened.

Now the brass,who are either minority,female,protected,or maybe all three,that was looking to gain some fame and a promotion from ordering this action is playing "cover my ass" by blaming it on a lowly Captain that had the misfortune of being on the scene,and who had no other options than to say "Yes sir,right away sir!"

Special Forces soldiers are Special Forces BECAUSE they have special training and a ton of experience that typical soldiers don't have and will never receive. You can't replace them by just snatching someone in uniform out of a chow line,and what happens when you do is a LOT of US soldiers get killed due to inexperience.

IMNSHO,whoever the Rear Echelon Commando was that organized this cluster bleep need to be brought up on charges of manslaughter in addition to dereliction of duty charges.
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So, what the heck are we doing in Niger anyway?

@Sanguine

Beats the hell out of me. The 3rd Special Forces Group has had Africa as an area of responsibility since forever,and that generally meant sending an occasional A team there to train some of their soldiers and to establish a relationship with the officer and NCO corps there. Then,IIRC,it got hot during the Boy Jorge reign,when he was pimping out our military to anyone willing to pay him to rent them,and now it seems like nobody knows how to stop it.
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A college management professor of mine:

You can delegate authority, but not responsibility.


Contemporary US government and military types, come up with long confusing language, to shift the blame to others.
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The Pentagon is the Hq of the DoD, staffed largely by military types.
Far too many citizens subconsciously assign sainthood to these types.
The reality is, the Pentagon is a Govt. Bureaucracy w/plenty of self-serving
operatives, no matter how many good conduct medals adorn their chests.
Our performance in foreign affairs since 1945 is mute testament to that
cold and harsh reality.

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A college management professor of mine:

You can delegate authority, but not responsibility.


Contemporary US government and military types, come up with long confusing language, to shift the blame to others.

@truth_seeker

You can never blame the military because they never make policy decisions. They only follow orders.
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The Army Scapegoating Junior Officers For Niger Ambush Indicates A Deep Institutional Rot

Posted at 5:28 pm on February 11, 2019 by streiff


The Vietnam War left the US Army in tatters. The pressure to achieve measurable results in a six-month command tour created an generation of senior officers who had cheated on body counts and obscured atrocities. As anyone who has served in a large organization will tell you, people hire in their own image. By the late 1970s, the US Army was flat on its ass. Young officers feared assignment to West Germany where discipline was scant and heroin abuse was rampant. Race relations were horrendous. Often units self-segregated into barracks areas that were assigned by race/ethnicity not by unit affiliation. Young soldiers joining a unit were frequently given an ultimatum to pay protection money to the appropriate racial gang. Shortly before I joined by battalion there was a cross-burning on the lawn of the NCO Club. Good NCOs had left the Army in droves and many of the ones remaining were substandard. I had one squad leader who was functionally illiterate. You quickly learned that all the stuff you’d been taught in your Basic Course about relying on your NCOs was bullsh** because a non trivial percentage of them were dangerous to everyone around them. The combination of careerism and lack of integrity at the top and incompetence at the bottom created officers who were micromanagers and who had learned the hard way to look out for Number One. In many units “if I can’t look good, I’ll make you look bad” was the SOP.

Anyway, the ship righted itself. Some very good men managed to rise to the top. Careerism was brought under control. Command tours were extended so that a commander had to live with the crap he created. At Leavenworth, Anton Meyer’s novel “Once an Eagle” was required reading. Military operations in Panama, in Desert Storm, in the invasion of Iraq showed that the US Army was the preeminent land power in the world. In Lebanon, Hezbollah recruiting billboards stopped featuring men in a keffiyeh and carrying an AK-47 and started portraying men in woodland pattern BDUs and carrying M-4 carbines. Why? For the same reason kids wear the jersey of the Super Bowl champions and not the Cleveland Browns.

Now I think the pendulum is swinging the other way. Not just in the Army, but in the Navy (the WestPac destroyers playing lethal bumper cars with cargo ships) and Air Force as well, but in the Army in particular.

On October 17, 2017, Nigerien troops advised by US Special Forces engaged in a confused action in western Niger.

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The Army Scapegoating Junior Officers For Niger Ambush Indicates A Deep Institutional Rot

Posted at 5:28 pm on February 11, 2019 by streiff

 
On October 17, 2017, Nigerien troops advised by US Special Forces engaged in a confused action in western Niger.

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https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2019/02/11/army-scapegoating-junior-officers-niger-ambush-indicates-deep-institutional-rot/

@streiff

Not true. They were battalion SUPPORT people attached to SF. They had no business going after anyone,and the puke that ordered them to do so should be facing criminal neglect of duty charges.

Going after guerillas in their own territory is not the type of thing you need to be doing if you have never done it.
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