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There is no way to commit conspiracy without colluding.


Thank you. I said the same thing, almost a week ago.


The word 'collusion' may not appear is specific statute, but conspiracy does. In that context, they're completely interchangeable. You cannot engage in a conspiracy without colluding. Investigation of 'collusion' doesn't appear in the SC mandate, anyway. So, your attempt to split hairs on definition and synonyms is kind of senseless.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,349796.msg1907465.html#msg1907465
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Thank you. I said the same thing, almost a week ago.


The word 'collusion' may not appear is specific statute, but conspiracy does. In that context, they're completely interchangeable. You cannot engage in a conspiracy without colluding. Investigation of 'collusion' doesn't appear in the SC mandate, anyway. So, your attempt to split hairs on definition and synonyms is kind of senseless.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,349796.msg1907465.html#msg1907465

You misread @Jazzhead's comment.  The terms are NOT interchangeable.

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You misread @Jazzhead's comment.  The terms are NOT interchangeable.


They are, depending on context. As I had said in the thread from the link, try defending against a charge of conspiracy, by saying it was merely collusion.
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Thank you. I said the same thing, almost a week ago.


The word 'collusion' may not appear is specific statute, but conspiracy does. In that context, they're completely interchangeable. You cannot engage in a conspiracy without colluding. Investigation of 'collusion' doesn't appear in the SC mandate, anyway. So, your attempt to split hairs on definition and synonyms is kind of senseless.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,349796.msg1907465.html#msg1907465
By your own statement @Jazzhead , there is no conspiracy without collusion. But also, collusion itself does not necessarily rise to the level of conspiracy.

Collusion is not listed in statute, while conspiracy is, and for that reason. Collusion is not necessarily criminal.
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By your own statement @Jazzhead , there is no conspiracy without collusion. But also, collusion itself does not necessarily rise to the level of conspiracy.

Collusion is not listed in statute, while conspiracy is, and for that reason. Collusion is not necessarily criminal.

And your point is . . .?
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And your point is . . .?
You can have collusion with out having committed a crime.

Unless, of course, someone can point out the statute prohibiting collusion.

"Collusion" and "Conspiracy" are not interchangeable terms.
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