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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi Blocks President Trump Entry into Capitol Building – Confirms State of Union Speech Cancellation…
Posted on January 22, 2019   by sundance

It looks like Speaker of The House Nancy Pelosi has no intention of allowing the House chamber to be used for a State of the Union address.

Speaker Pelosi has informed the House Sergeant at Arms that no executive branch official will be permitted entry into the Capitol building.

Earlier Fox News reported Pelosi cancelled a walkthrough last week, and a second request for reconsideration from the White House is expected to meet the same fate. The House Speaker controls who is, and who is not, permitted entry to the House floor. Until Speaker Pelosi calls for a vote to support a joint session of congress, the President cannot enter the chamber.

Deputy White House Press Secretary Hogan Gidley discusses the status of the current shutdown negotiations and the likelihood a SOU address will have to take place outside Washington DC.

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Need more than Jim Hoft's word on this.  Sorry.  This guy is the Buzz Feed of the right
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Need more than Jim Hoft's word on this.  Sorry.  This guy is the Buzz Feed of the right

Worse, this is Sundance at Conservative Treehouse, the Babylon Bee of the Right. I didn't notice that at first. They are worse than Gateway Pundit.

Waiting for legitimate confirmation.

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I can find no legitimate source confirming this. It is just repeated on a few questionable (and some outright fake) blogs like CTH.

The closest legitimate source to this is the Pacific Standard (pretty legitimate) exploring if it was legally possible for her to block him. The conclusion is she has zero power to do so.

https://psmag.com/news/can-pelosi-stop-trump-from-entering-congress

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Does the U.S. President Need an Invitation to Enter the Capitol?

The first step for Trump to crash his own canceled State of the Union speech would be entering the Capitol building.
A popular misconception—or, at least, an idea some men have incorrectly declared on Quora—holds that the president can only enter the Capitol building with an express invitation from Congress. The common belief is that the Constitution's "separation of powers" clause, like a restraining order, mandates that an actual physical distance be maintained between the executive and congressional branches of government.

In reality, the president's access to the Capitol has been unrestricted for most of United States history. Indeed, in the country's early days, this was a necessity: Before the 20th Amendment was ratified in 1933, congressional terms and presidential terms both ended and began on March 4th, at noon. Prior to the invention of telephones and fax machines, this forced more than one president to spend the entire night of March 3rd in the Capitol, signing and vetoing a stack of bills passed by the adjourning Congress. (In the 1850s, the President's Room was added to the Senate wing of the Capitol for the president to use on official business. Though various presidents up until Woodrow Wilson regularly used the space, the room—complete with Italian frescos and elaborate chandeliers—today serves primarily for fancy photo ops.)
Trump, like Barack Obama and most presidents before him, has visited the Capitol multiple times, without express invitation, during his own presidency. If he showed up on January 29th, there would be no precedent to restrict his access.......







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She can only block someone from the floor of the House.  However, If the two houses disagree, Trump could vary well adjourn one or both of the chambers and reconvene at his discretion.  I say do it and make all his appointments during the recess including declare the national emergency.
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She can only block someone from the floor of the House.  However, If the two houses disagree, Trump could vary well adjourn one or both of the chambers and reconvene at his discretion.  I say do it and make all his appointments during the recess including declare the national emergency.

Not the President, Vice President, or Supreme Court Justices. They, by House Rules, always have an open invitation. See link above (quoted part below). Pelosi's power isn't as much as people think. She oversees scheduling, but she isn't the doorkeeper.

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Entrance to the Hall of the House of Representatives is, in general, restricted only to members performing legislative business. But luckily for Trump, the House rules include a list of other people who are allowed access to the Hall—and the president and vice president are on the list. Other exceptions include Supreme Court justices, governors, foreign ministers, the librarian of Congress, the architect of the Capitol, and "such persons as have, by name, received the thanks of Congress."

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi Blocks President Trump Entry into Capitol Building – Confirms State of Union Speech Cancellation…
Posted on January 22, 2019   by sundance

It looks like Speaker of The House Nancy Pelosi has no intention of allowing the House chamber to be used for a State of the Union address.

Speaker Pelosi has informed the House Sergeant at Arms that no executive branch official will be permitted entry into the Capitol building.

Earlier Fox News reported Pelosi cancelled a walkthrough last week, and a second request for reconsideration from the White House is expected to meet the same fate. The House Speaker controls who is, and who is not, permitted entry to the House floor. Until Speaker Pelosi calls for a vote to support a joint session of congress, the President cannot enter the chamber.

Deputy White House Press Secretary Hogan Gidley discusses the status of the current shutdown negotiations and the likelihood a SOU address will have to take place outside Washington DC.

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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/01/22/house-speaker-nancy-pelosi-blocks-president-trump-entry-into-capitol-building-confirms-state-of-union-speech-cancellation/#comments

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Something tells me that if he walks in there with his SS escort that nobody is going to try to stop him from entering.
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Not the President, Vice President, or Supreme Court Justices. They, by House Rules, always have an open invitation.

Rules shmools.  These are Democrats we're talking about here.  Rules don't matter.
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I can imagine her standing at the door with her oversized gavel swinging at Trump's head with her face contorted in a rictus, word salad and drool pouring from her lips.
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I can imagine her standing at the door with her oversized gavel swinging at Trump's head with her face contorted in a rictus, word salad and drool pouring from her lips.

OK, I had to look that up.
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If it's true, demand a retraction and apology from her.

If she digs in have her arrested.
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President Trump is Commander in Chief of the most fearsome military on planet Earth.  I very much doubt Pelosi could keep Trump out if he really wants to get in.  I think this is actually caused by some impotence in the President.  Even with his mighty Executive power Trump can't get past the House Sgt at arms.   Have you seen the House Sgt at arms?  He doesn't look that tough.

 

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He could always hold it in the Senate Chamber
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President Trump is Commander in Chief of the most fearsome military on planet Earth.  I very much doubt Pelosi could keep Trump out if he really wants to get in.  I think this is actually caused by some impotence in the President.  Even with his mighty Executive power Trump can't get past the House Sgt at arms.   Have you seen the House Sgt at arms?  He doesn't look that tough.
 


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It is probably well-known here that there is no Constitutional requirement for a State of the Union address.  Article II requires that the President shall from time to time provide Congress with information on the state of the union and recommend measures he finds necessary and expedient (my own paraphrase, but not too far off.)  Among many other Presidents, Coolidge in particular, I believe, eschewed a live address and simply provided the information and recommended measures in writing.  FDR resumed the practice of a live address and in the mass media age it has long been the norm.

Rather than continuing a p*****g contest with Pelosi, were I POTUS I would send over a one-pager with half a dozen legislative priorities and clear information on what I would do if they were, or were not, passed.  I would simultaneously release via the internet a speech made from the Resolute desk in the Oval office, in which I described those priorities and made my case for them direct to the people.  And I would do these things without warning or advance notice.  Cut the media out of the process, don't enable the Democrats to show themselves in the House chamber all wearing color-coordinated protest clothing and shunning POTUS as he walks up the aisle, outflank an organized, formal opposition response address, and quickly and decisively end this part of the ongoing standoff.
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I can imagine her standing at the door with her oversized gavel swinging at Trump's head with her face contorted in a rictus, word salad and drool pouring from her lips.

That's quite a mental image!  :rolling:
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Like I said, if this is true either force an apology and correction from her or Find a charge and make it stick.

Have her arrested.

She's gonna have the President barred from entering the House?



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That's quite a mental image!  :rolling:

The stuff of nightmares is Ms. Pelosi and the other dem/coms.
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I like Sundance an all, but I don't believe this story. 
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President Trump is Commander in Chief of the most fearsome military on planet Earth.  I very much doubt Pelosi could keep Trump out if he really wants to get in.  I think this is actually caused by some impotence in the President.  Even with his mighty Executive power Trump can't get past the House Sgt at arms.   Have you seen the House Sgt at arms?  He doesn't look that tough.

 


I wouldn't be so quick to say he doesn't look so tough. That's Paul Irving. Former Secret Service Presidential Protection Division for Presidents Reagan through W Bush.

I doubt he would let Nancy or anyone play any games like this (if the story was true- it isn't).


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Trump should tell Pilosi, have the SOTU at the agreed upon time, in the House, or he will adjourn the house subject to recall at his choosing. Since the Speaker doesn’t want to the country’s business, shut’er down.
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Hey, Nancy, it's not your house - it belongs to the American people!

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Hey, Nancy, it's not your house - it belongs to the American people!

Just like her District.



Great Stewardship Nan!

You and Kamala.
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Just like her District.



Great Stewardship Nan!

You and Kamala.

Are those what they look like?