Author Topic: Trump says will make 'major' announcement Saturday on shutdown (Read 4129 times)

TomSea · « **on:** January 18, 2019, 11:05:54 pm »

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Trump says will make 'major' announcement Saturday on shutdown

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump said on Friday he will make a â€œmajorâ€ announcement on Saturday at 3 p.m. EST (2000 GMT) on â€œthe humanitarian crisis on our southern borderâ€ and the partial government shutdown, now in its 28th day.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-shutdown-trump-announcement/trump-says-will-make-major-announcement-saturday-on-shutdown-idUSKCN1PC2OM

One paragraph story... will delete if I see this was posted already.

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #1 on:** January 18, 2019, 11:06:09 pm »

President Trump to make announcement from the White House on Saturday at 3:00 pm ET
Twitter, Jan 18, 2019, Donald J. Trump

Donald J. Trump
ï€²Verified accountï‚™ @realDonaldTrump

I will be making a major announcement concerning the Humanitarian Crisis on our Southern Border, and the Shutdown, tomorrow afternoon at 3 P.M., live from the @WhiteHouse.

2:51 PM - 18 Jan 2019

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1086395559504764930?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Emjay · « **Reply #2 on:** January 18, 2019, 11:07:51 pm »

That's really interesting, RIV. I hope he's going to announce the nuclear option.

Emjay · « **Reply #3 on:** January 18, 2019, 11:08:24 pm »

It's a good thing Nancy's trip was aborted or she would have missed it.

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #4 on:** January 18, 2019, 11:11:34 pm »

This could be a breakthrough, a declaration of a national emergency. We'll just have to wait for the leaks.

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #5 on:** January 18, 2019, 11:14:02 pm »

Might want to merge it here: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,348230.msg1893304/topicseen.html#msg1893304

@TomSea

Emjay · « **Reply #6 on:** January 18, 2019, 11:15:25 pm »

Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on January 18, 2019, 11:11:34 pm

This could be a breakthrough, a declaration of a national emergency. We'll just have to wait for the leaks.

Something has to happen and I think Trump knows it. It's time to declare a national emergency.

rustynail · « **Reply #7 on:** January 18, 2019, 11:19:35 pm »

Resignation?

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #8 on:** January 18, 2019, 11:24:47 pm »

Quote from: Emjay on January 18, 2019, 11:15:25 pm

Something has to happen and I think Trump knows it. It's time to declare a national emergency.

Well, the first thousand of the next caravan walked into Mexico this morning (they're resting nicely).

montanajoe · « **Reply #9 on:** January 18, 2019, 11:31:37 pm »

Quote from: rustynail on January 18, 2019, 11:19:35 pm

Resignation?

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #10 on:** January 18, 2019, 11:36:29 pm »

The announcement will be made from the Diplomatic Reception Room in the WH

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #11 on:** January 18, 2019, 11:37:03 pm »

Quote from: montanajoe on January 18, 2019, 11:31:37 pm

One of you funny guys should learn how to read.

corbe · « **Reply #12 on:** January 18, 2019, 11:48:15 pm »

I suspect he'll say "To h3ll with all this nasty weather, I'm going to Mar~a~Lago, by Amtrak"

DCPatriot · « **Reply #13 on:** January 19, 2019, 12:01:41 am »

Everybody likes a conspiracy theory now and then. Here's mine:

Rush Limbaugh purposefully swerved the conversation with a caller last week, when the caller said something about government jobs being at risk after a 30 working-day furlough.

Rush wanted no part of the discussion because it's better not to be publicized...before this weekend.

austingirl · « **Reply #14 on:** January 19, 2019, 12:08:16 am »

Declare a national emergency and protect our border with all available tools.

rustynail · « **Reply #15 on:** January 19, 2019, 12:11:09 am »

Quote from: DCPatriot on January 19, 2019, 12:01:41 am

Everybody likes a conspiracy theory now and then. Here's mine:

Rush Limbaugh purposefully swerved the conversation with a caller last week, when the caller said something about government jobs being at risk after a 30 working-day furlough.

Rush wanted no part of the discussion because it's better not to be publicized...before this weekend.

Good guess. Hope it is part of what is coming.

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #16 on:** January 19, 2019, 12:35:17 am »

Quote from: DCPatriot on January 19, 2019, 12:01:41 am

Everybody likes a conspiracy theory now and then. Here's mine:

Rush Limbaugh purposefully swerved the conversation with a caller last week, when the caller said something about government jobs being at risk after a 30 working-day furlough.

Rush wanted no part of the discussion because it's better not to be publicized...before this weekend.

That's my theory. Tomorrow is 30 days since the "shutdown" began, and I believe he can announce a Reduction In Force to lay off the "workers" who are presently on furlough. I would not be surprised if he also calls a State of Emergency, because of the latest ~~caravan~~ group of invaders that are on the way.

montanajoe · « **Reply #17 on:** January 19, 2019, 12:41:00 am »

I think the political calculation both parties are making now is when are they going give in and therefore look like the adult in the room. I think this is timed to give Trump the opportunity to play the hand first before Congress can reconvene next Tuesday..

Both parties need the middle to win elections. Forcing government employees to work without pay, other government employees in non salaried positions to lose their paycheck with no chance to make it up and government contractors with no work and no pay doesn't sit will with the vast middle class living pay check to pay check.

It would not surprise me at all for Trump to declare an emergency to build the wall and say he will sign the bill in the Senate to end the shut down. If he doesn't then I think you will see the Dims giving in next week and spend the next two years reminding the voters how Trump and the GOP don't give a damn about the middle class and how they put ending the shut down above politics to help the little guy...

bigheadfred · « **Reply #18 on:** January 19, 2019, 01:07:09 am »

. About 380,000 furloughed federal workers are eligible for benefits, ...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=17&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiFpMyu0vjfAhVIr1QKHSg7BcUQFjAQegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2019%2F01%2F17%2Fus%2Fshutdown-unemployment-states.html&usg=AOvVaw3SDue8GGiexQLYpUgDrGf9

edpc · « **Reply #19 on:** January 19, 2019, 10:24:04 am »

A 'major announcement' at 3PM on a Saturday? Prepare to be underwhelmed.

(CNN) â€” President Donald Trump plans to offer Democrats another proposal to end the shutdown when he addresses the nation from the White House on Saturday afternoon -- what officials are describing as his third offer to end the shutdown, according to a senior administration official.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/01/18/politics/trump-saturday-speech-shutdown/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F

DCPatriot · « **Reply #20 on:** January 19, 2019, 10:28:25 am »

Quote from: edpc on January 19, 2019, 10:24:04 am

A 'major announcement' at 3PM on a Saturday? Prepare to be underwhelmed.

(CNN) â€” President Donald Trump plans to offer Democrats another proposal to end the shutdown when he addresses the nation from the White House on Saturday afternoon -- what officials are describing as his third offer to end the shutdown, according to a senior administration official.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/01/18/politics/trump-saturday-speech-shutdown/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F

How rich is this?

With all the Buzzfeed crap yesterday, you post this 'news' from CNN?

edpc · « **Reply #21 on:** January 19, 2019, 05:43:57 pm »

Quote from: DCPatriot on January 19, 2019, 10:28:25 am

How rich is this?

With all the Buzzfeed crap yesterday, you post this 'news' from CNN?

This, from the crowd that genuflects every time an article from American Thinker or Big League Politics rolls out some half baked theory that never pans out.

Maybe we should give this mid afternoon weekend announcement a Jim Hoft BOOM!

Axios is reporting it's a wall for DACA type deal proposal.

https://www.axios.com/trump-expected-immigration-compromise-speech-border-wall-a8713395-d085-4921-a0c8-699872dcd534.html

That's not going to be overwhelmingly popular with the base. Perhaps that explains the timing of the release. If it was really major, like an emergency declaration, it would be done at a more prominent time - like during the SOTU.

Mesaclone · « **Reply #22 on:** January 19, 2019, 05:48:23 pm »

Make a note...THIS is what Trump is going to do today:

1. He will make a straight offer of full border wall funding in exchange for a DACA deal.
2. He will give Congress 10 days (until the State of the Union) to put legislation on his desk.
3. After 10 days, at the state of the Union, if there is no bill he will declare a state of emergency and begin building the wall with other funds.
4. At that point, any DACA deal is off the table.
5. This will be a take it or leave it deal...take it and get DACA...or don't take it and get nothing while the wall still gets built under an emergency directive.

This will have multiple effects but its primary effect will be to separate the Hispanic caucus and Dem moderates from the hardcore "NeverWall" lefties...because they will have to choose to pass on a deal for 1.8 million DACA folks if they don't compromise with the President. This will put tremendous pressure on Pelosi/Schumer to back down and deal...and they will have to choose between their FAR left and traditional left.

As always, the President will have Trumped the Dims once again. If they cave and make a deal, they piss off their Far Left and Trump looks like he's won and he gets his wall. If they don't cave...and my guess is that ultimately they won't...they alienate moderates and their Hispanic caucus...and Trump still gets his wall.

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #23 on:** January 19, 2019, 06:17:22 pm »

Quote from: Mesaclone on January 19, 2019, 05:48:23 pm

Make a note...THIS is what Trump is going to do today:

1. He will make a straight offer of full border wall funding in exchange for a DACA deal.
2. He will give Congress 10 days (until the State of the Union) to put legislation on his desk.
3. After 10 days, at the state of the Union, if there is no bill he will declare a state of emergency and begin building the wall with other funds.
4. At that point, any DACA deal is off the table.
5. This will be a take it or leave it deal...take it and get DACA...or don't take it and get nothing while the wall still gets built under an emergency directive.

This will have multiple effects but its primary effect will be to separate the Hispanic caucus and Dem moderates from the hardcore "NeverWall" lefties...because they will have to choose to pass on a deal for 1.8 million DACA folks if they don't compromise with the President. This will put tremendous pressure on Pelosi/Schumer to back down and deal...and they will have to choose between their FAR left and traditional left.

As always, the President will have Trumped the Dims once again. If they cave and make a deal, they piss off their Far Left and Trump looks like he's won and he gets his wall. If they don't cave...and my guess is that ultimately they won't...they alienate moderates and their Hispanic caucus...and Trump still gets his wall.

I like this @Mesaclone I'd change only two things. First I'd like the President to start by saying: Madam Speaker, I will be giving the SOTU address from the House of Representatives on January 29, 9:00 ET. And then after defining the deal, give them a date certain to put the legislation in his desk: 5:00 pm ET January 29, 2019.

I also agree with your assessment the democrats will suffer if they reject this. It also allows the President to begin "exploring" a reduction in furloughed government non-essential staff.

edpc · « **Reply #24 on:** January 19, 2019, 06:23:05 pm »

Quote from: Mesaclone on January 19, 2019, 05:48:23 pm

As always, the President will have Trumped the Dims once again. If they cave and make a deal, they piss off their Far Left and Trump looks like he's won and he gets his wall. If they don't cave...and my guess is that ultimately they won't...they alienate moderates and their Hispanic caucus...and Trump still gets his wall.

You are leaving something out. Once he makes the emergency declaration, it will be challenged in the courts. He can always petition SCOTUS to hear it right away and jump the appellate process. They have no obligation to do so and may decline. In that instance, it becomes mired in the courts for years, potentially and he loses all leverage.