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Re: Romney slams Trump's character in new op-ed
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2019, 02:56:05 pm »
Doesn't mean he's wrong about Trump.

I tend to agree about Trump, but Romney serves no useful purpose here.  This is obviously another salvo in the DC establishment's never-ending barrage against Trump and Romney has willingly played along with it, I suspect to raise his own virtue-signalling to a higher level.

Romney had his chance to influence the nation and he failed.  Until the Republican Party or the United States Government advertises a vacancy in the Chief Decorum Officer position, Romney should confine his attention to the issues before the Senate.
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Re: Romney slams Trump's character in new op-ed
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2019, 03:02:04 pm »
I tend to agree about Trump, but Romney serves no useful purpose here.  This is obviously another salvo in the DC establishment's never-ending barrage against Trump and Romney has willingly played along with it, I suspect to raise his own virtue-signalling to a higher level.

Romney had his chance to influence the nation and he failed.  Until the Republican Party or the United States Government advertises a vacancy in the Chief Decorum Officer position, Romney should confine his attention to the issues before the Senate.
Yep. His track record as Governor of Mass leaves a lot of principles out in the wind...

Maybe he thinks he's fooling someone, but I think he got the backing of the GOPe and joined the ranks of the McCain corps.
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Re: Romney slams Trump's character in new op-ed
« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2019, 03:15:55 pm »
Yep. His track record as Governor of Mass leaves a lot of principles out in the wind...

Maybe he thinks he's fooling someone, but I think he got the backing of the GOPe and joined the ranks of the McCain corps.

Yep, Commander of the McCain corps.  Apparently Lindsay Graham decided he didn't want that job, so Romney applied and was hired.

High character is a virtue, one that I wish the President possessed.  But we see that the voting public does not consider high character a requirement, and we know that when a president values his belief in his own character over the good of the nation, the nation suffers - witness the elections of 1992 and 2008.

Publicly assailing Trump's character does not move the country forward.
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Re: Romney slams Trump's character in new op-ed
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2019, 03:24:31 pm »
Yep, Commander of the McCain corps.  Apparently Lindsay Graham decided he didn't want that job, so Romney applied and was hired.

High character is a virtue, one that I wish the President possessed.  But we see that the voting public does not consider high character a requirement, and we know that when a president values his belief in his own character over the good of the nation, the nation suffers - witness the elections of 1992 and 2008.

Publicly assailing Trump's character does not move the country forward.
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Re: Romney slams Trump's character in new op-ed
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2019, 03:24:56 pm »
Yep. His track record as Governor of Mass leaves a lot of principles out in the wind...

Maybe he thinks he's fooling someone, but I think he got the backing of the GOPe and joined the ranks of the McCain corps.

He might have fooled someone if he'd waited a few days before doing exactly what everyone knew he intended to do.

IMO you don't need to be a Trump supporter to find Romney's recent actions opportunistic and utterly transparent. I don't know who he thinks he's impressing.

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Re: Romney slams Trump's character in new op-ed
« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2019, 03:25:39 pm »
Deriding 3 Generals in one month, making a grossly faulty decision on Syria that could deliver victory to Iran and Russia, is one actually keeping up with current events? Nobody but Rand Paul agreed with that, it's like Rand Paul foreign policy so if others want to speak, so be it.   I can see where this all could be the one error that despite all of the investigations, mostly witch hunts, this could be the one situation that could do great damage to Trump, our 'pro-military' president.  Clear as a bell.

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Re: Romney slams Trump's character in new op-ed
« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2019, 03:28:41 pm »
He might have fooled someone if he'd waited a few days before doing exactly what everyone knew he intended to do.

IMO you don't need to be a Trump supporter to find Romney's recent actions opportunistic and utterly transparent. I don't know who he thinks he's impressing.

Very well-stated @skeeter.  I suppose he's trying to impress the anti-Trump DC establishment (but I repeat myself......).
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Re: Romney slams Trump's character in new op-ed
« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2019, 03:36:01 pm »
You have to give Romney credit.  He's completely unspoiled by failure.
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Re: Romney slams Trump's character in new op-ed
« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2019, 03:36:16 pm »
Very well-stated @skeeter.  I suppose he's trying to impress the anti-Trump DC establishment (but I repeat myself......).

But to what end? There aren't enough of them to win a national election.

But maybe I've answered my own question. Many suspect the GOPe doesn't care about winning. As long as they remain in control of their own little fiefdom they're happy groveling for table scraps from the socialist left.
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Re: Romney slams Trump's character in new op-ed
« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2019, 03:50:41 pm »
Hey, McConnell:  Keep this ahole off the Judiciary Committee.  Give him party planning.

Good idea.  I hear he did well with the Olympics.

Seriously, what is with an incoming Republican Senator publicly trashing the sitting Republican President.  Wonder where he thinks that will get him?
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Re: Romney slams Trump's character in new op-ed
« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2019, 03:51:52 pm »


Classic Trump; forthright and honest in expressing his opinion.

But, wait. Gen. McChrystal said Trump is dishonest, and the media wrote glowing stories praising McChristal as a man of character whose opinion carries much weight.

Lest you forget, in 2010 the media trashed McChrystal when he said the same about President Obama, that Obama was not honest. Remember what happened then? Obama immediately fired McChrystal for his comments in Rolling Stone:

WASHINGTON — President Obama on Wednesday fired his top Afghanistan war commander after only a brief meeting in the Oval Office, replacing Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal with his boss and mentor, Gen. David H. Petraeus, and sending a clear signal that the current war strategy will continue despite setbacks and growing public doubts.

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Speaking in the Rose Garden to reporters, Mr. Obama said he did not fire General McChrystal for critical comments about him and his staff in Rolling Stone magazine, nor “out of any sense of personal insult.” Rather, the president cited the need for his team to unite in pressing the war effort.

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/24/us/politics/24mcchrystal.html

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Re: Romney slams Trump's character in new op-ed
« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2019, 04:06:20 pm »
Back to Romney (whom I supported vigorously in the ‘12 election). During the ‘16 primary campaign Romney kept touting his business acumen as credentials and the fact that he was worth $300 million.

During the debate, an MSNBC guy asked Trump to comment about that. Trump turned to the panel and said, “I got a Gucci store in my building that’s worth more than that.”

That stuck in Romney’s craw and he’s been biting at Trump’s ankles ever since.

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Re: Romney slams Trump's character in new op-ed
« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2019, 05:05:51 pm »
You have to give Romney credit.  He's completely unspoiled by failure.

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Re: Romney slams Trump's character in new op-ed
« Reply #39 on: January 02, 2019, 05:06:51 pm »
Let me be the first to predict:

If Donald Trump isn't the Republican nominee in 2020, the GOP will suffer the LOWEST voter turnout of any presidential election in our history.

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Re: Romney slams Trump's character in new op-ed
« Reply #40 on: January 02, 2019, 05:08:32 pm »
No fan of Romney, but he's right. 

Now go away, Mitt.

Of course Romney is right.   Trump's character flaws are only getting worse as his enemies have been emboldened.    I credit Trump for proving how the conservative message can win,   but the man is increasingly erratic and a new leader for Trump's coalition is needed.

It is time to prepare for the future.   Trump must be replaced as the 2020 nominee if conservatism is to have a chance to survive as a national political force. 
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Re: Romney slams Trump's character in new op-ed
« Reply #41 on: January 02, 2019, 05:13:59 pm »
Let me be the first to predict:

If Donald Trump isn't the Republican nominee in 2020, the GOP will suffer the LOWEST voter turnout of any presidential election in our history.

Really, except for Trump fans, I don't think there will be that many Republican voters in 2020 period.

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Re: Romney slams Trump's character in new op-ed
« Reply #42 on: January 02, 2019, 05:15:48 pm »
Really, except for Trump fans, I don't think there will be that many Republican voters in 2020 period.

Yeah. That's what all 6 of you Never Trumps said would happen in the '16 election. Didn't pan out quite like that did it.

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Re: Romney slams Trump's character in new op-ed
« Reply #43 on: January 02, 2019, 05:17:25 pm »
Yeah. That's what all 6 of you Never Trumps said would happen in the '16 election. Didn't pan out quite like that did it.
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Re: Romney slams Trump's character in new op-ed
« Reply #44 on: January 02, 2019, 05:18:52 pm »
Tell the survivors in The House that.

Oh. You mean the people who promised to get rid of Obamacare and failed? Those people?

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Re: Romney slams Trump's character in new op-ed
« Reply #45 on: January 02, 2019, 05:30:13 pm »
Let me be the first to predict:

If Donald Trump isn't the Republican nominee in 2020, the GOP will suffer the LOWEST voter turnout of any presidential election in our history.

Are you saying that the American electorate is eager to embrace socialism and identity politics?   I don't think so.   

I say let the Dems nominate a socialist radical and let the GOP then nominate a center-right candidate who is pledged to public service, not ideological warfare (and not the personality-based warfare that animates Trump and his enemies.)    I'll take my chances that most voters will find the GOP alternative compelling.  It is only if we re-nominate Trump that the hard-left has a chance to make the case that their evil medicine is better than another four years of the Washington reality show.   
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Re: Romney slams Trump's character in new op-ed
« Reply #46 on: January 02, 2019, 05:33:51 pm »
Are you saying that the American electorate is eager to embrace socialism and identity politics?   I don't think so.   

I say let the Dems nominate a socialist radical and let the GOP then nominate a center-right candidate who is pledged to public service, not ideological warfare (and not the personality-based warfare that animates Trump and his enemies.)    I'll take my chances that most voters will find the GOP alternative compelling.  It is only if we re-nominate Trump that the hard-left has a chance to make the case that their evil medicine is better than another four years of the Washington reality show.

Yeah, because Kasich, Cruz and JEB! really lit a fire under the electorate.

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Re: Romney slams Trump's character in new op-ed
« Reply #47 on: January 02, 2019, 05:34:46 pm »
Oh. You mean the people who promised to get rid of Obamacare and failed? Those people?

Trump promised the same thing and more.  He can blame Republicans in both houses of congress all he wants, but the fact is he too did not do his part to make things happen.  Except for Trump's diehard fans, most voters realize that all Republicans, including Trump, failed.  The blame belongs to all of them.

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Re: Romney slams Trump's character in new op-ed
« Reply #48 on: January 02, 2019, 05:38:31 pm »
Of course Romney is right.   Trump's character flaws are only getting worse as his enemies have been emboldened.    I credit Trump for proving how the conservative message can win,   but the man is increasingly erratic and a new leader for Trump's coalition is needed.

It is time to prepare for the future.   Trump must be replaced as the 2020 nominee if conservatism is to have a chance to survive as a national political force.

Conservatism has been extinct in DC since 88, the GOP establishment killed it.

It may be that an alternative to Trump will be necessary but contrary to the fondest wishes of the 'moderate' wing of the GOP there is no constituency for the same old establishment crap anymore, either.
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Re: Romney slams Trump's character in new op-ed
« Reply #49 on: January 02, 2019, 05:52:13 pm »
Trump promised the same thing and more.  He can blame Republicans in both houses of congress all he wants, but the fact is he too did not do his part to make things happen.  Except for Trump's diehard fans, most voters realize that all Republicans, including Trump, failed.  The blame belongs to all of them.

Bullshit. That is boilerplate MSM spin on this. Fact is that where Trump went to bail out Senate races, they won. Fact is that when voters were asked what their top issues were in these House races, Health Care was 1 or 2. Fact is that voters had azzhole GOP House members who said they were going to do stuff and then didn't do shit and they voted them out. Some like Charlie Dent just bailed all together because they knew the jig was up.

Those are just the honest races that the GOP lost. No one will ever convince me that those vote harvested seats in Cali were not stolen.