The Biggest Losers of Trump’s Presidency: His Voters

[musiclady]

Mary, mother of God!   

When the other major party is full-blown Socialist...Venezuela wannabe's?  Hell...they want Conservatives dead.

If they have to kill 25 million Americans...they're already quoted to be on board with that.

Guess that makes me a "pod person", @musiclady

You missed the previous point here, @DCPatriot .

The accusation was made that Conservatives who wouldn't vote for the R candidate based on principle were "Party Pods"......... an accusation which makes NO sense in any sane world.

All I was doing here was saying that the converse was more true.... that voting for an "R" in some sort of tribal sense is much more pod-like than the accusation that was made.

Actually, I don't think there are any Pod people here and that the initial accusation made was dimwitted. 

[musiclady]

I don't disagree with your comment, but I would suggest that it's evading the important point:  we have been forced to cobble together a coalition to stop the Socialists.  Many of our Republicans are just no danged good.  That includes some that have a good "rating" for conservatism.  (Some "conservatives" are worthless for dealing with what is going on right now.)   

Now that we have a POTUS--not a conspicuously honorable man, to say the least!---who is trying to prevent the complete destruction of the Republic, even we Never Trumpers need to support him whenever possible--not carp about his sometimes ill-advised tweets and continually complain about his inarguably shady dealings with hookers in the past.

Speaking of irony, many Republicans have said so many wonderful things about Bush 41 that it's obvious that they fail to realize that, although GHWB was publicly the opposite of Trump, GHWB was not a good guy for the USA.  His lovely family life should not obscure the fact that he sold his soul to the NWO.  He was trying to gradually destroy our national sovereignty--the long-range plan by the Deep State for subjugating the USA to the UN in a "kinder, gentler" way, of course.

Trump ain't kinder, gentler.  He needs to hang a lot of people--quite literally--and he knows that, thank God.

Can you thank God for that?  It's a theologically serious question.  Another serious question, do you hate your own POTUS right now?  Some professing Christians on TBR manifestly do.

I feel sorry for Trump based on the monumental mess that he has on his plate.  And I pray tirelessly for his success.  (Gee, isn't that the NT requirement for us?  [I am here referring to the New Testament, not Never-Trumpism.])

Why do you always include spiritual accusations in every post you make to me?  Is that a compulsion that you can't control? 

My comment to which you replied is addressed above.

Please see my response to DC, and don't assume my spiritual life is lacking because I require character in people I want to represent me.

Thanks ever so much.

[DCPatriot]

You missed the previous point here, @DCPatriot .

The accusation was made that Conservatives who wouldn't vote for the R candidate based on principle were "Party Pods"......... an accusation which makes NO sense in any sane world.

All I was doing here was saying that the converse was more true.... that voting for an "R" in some sort of tribal sense is much more pod-like than the accusation that was made.

Actually, I don't think there are any Pod people here and that the initial accusation made was dimwitted. 

I apologize, @musiclady

That was my very first post on this thread, which I've only lurked upon for 6 pages.  I missed any context to your post.   

[txradioguy]

So tell us, Tex..., what is the reason y'all are "...still waiting too"?

Is it because the president is against what you want?  Or, is it because both parties have conspired to keep the boot heal on his agenda?

He's the President of the United States...supposedly the most powerful position on the planet...he has the ability...should he choose to call the Speaker and the Majority leader into his office and tell them to get his damn agenda passed.

But time and again on key issues he either punts or gets people like you to try to convince us that a half measure is really better than what he promised originally...or as you so lamely stated just now...blame others for his inactivity.  Your pathetic "both parties have conspired" line.

He's more interested in Twitter and using it to belittle and bully people instead of using the bully pulpit of his office to make the changes necessary...the changes he said he would make "day one in office".

There's been a few little victories...but on the major issues...the things that got him elected...people are still waiting on him to do something.

And that time for him to get those things done so he can go to the American people and say "I told you I would do it and I did...this is why you should re-elect me"...comes to an end next month.

Maybe I'm wrong...maybe he's a better counter puncher and prefers the underdog role and once Pelosi is trying to give us Obama's America v.2 he WILL call in McConnell and McCarthy and work out a strategy to get things done despite opposition in the House.

But he's given little indication he's making adjustments to his strategy going forward after losing the House.

[txradioguy]

Why do you always include spiritual accusations in every post you make to me?  Is that a compulsion that you can't control? 

@musiclady yes it is.

[Free Vulcan]

And for the most part we're still waiting too.

And we're going to have to wait longer now that Nancy is in charge of the House.

[txradioguy]

And we're going to have to wait longer now that Nancy is in charge of the House.

Yeah unfortunately.

[Cyber Liberty]

And we're going to have to wait longer now that Nancy is in charge of the House.

Maybe.  San Fran Nan has no principles whatsoever, and may be more likely than Ryan was to pass stuff we like...as bargaining chips with the Senate and the President.

[Right_in_Virginia]

He's the President of the United States...supposedly the most powerful position on the planet...he has the ability...should he choose to call the Speaker and the Majority leader into his office and tell them to get his damn agenda passed. 

And if it ever leaked into the media that the President had done this …. you would move your soap box over to the sign that says "dictator/king" and accuse the President of being an egomaniac who doesn't understand the Constitution.

You need to face the truth @txradioguy --- President Trump just cannot win with you because for you the goalpost is merely a suggestion.

[the_doc]

Why do you always include spiritual accusations in every post you make to me?  Is that a compulsion that you can't control? 

My comment to which you replied is addressed above.

Please see my response to DC, and don't assume my spiritual life is lacking because I require character in people I want to represent me.

Thanks ever so much.

Why haven't you acknowledged that I stated publicly at the beginning of my Post #148 that I agreed with what you said in your Post #147 to DB?  Hey, that's a serious, probing question (again).   

Next, I will point out that I also agree with your more recent post to DC (your #153).  To DCPatriot's credit, he apologized. 

But this brings me to the point that you have continued to evade (see below):

Many NeverTrumpers have only a foul attitude towards a President who is trying to do what is right (and getting a huge amount of good things done, I might add).  I was specifically pointing out to anyone who lurks on this thread that it is a sinful attitude on the part of Christians to continue trashing Trump at practically every turn.  To do so, under the strange circumstances of Providence, is to complain against God--Who, in His infinite wisdom, set Trump over us right after He had also set Obama over us for eight miserable years.

I regard this as a lovely SET-UP for finally destroying the Deep State.  If our strange and crude but determined and super-patriotic President so much as survives, he will surely destroy all of the leaders of the Deep State--including the Kenyan fraud himself.

(There have been those on TBR who have said that no good can come from having a morally suspect guy like Trump in the White House.  That position is historically and Biblically false.  I wish we had a more conspicuously moral POTUS in the White House--and I vigorously opposed Trump as a scoundrel during the Republican nomination--but he's now our President facing an Herculean task of cleaning out the Deep State stable. 

Beside, we could have nominated and elected a "gentleman churchgoer" like GHWB and wound up doomed as a nation.  Remember: GHWB voted for Hillary Clinton. What a lovely guy GHWB was--not!  [Don't you see how confusing this mess is?  If you do, you need to charitably back the strange, crude guy who is finally poised to take down Obama and the Clintons and their entire nest of serpents.]) 

[musiclady]

I apologize, @musiclady

That was my very first post on this thread, which I've only lurked upon for 6 pages.  I missed any context to your post.   

Not a problem!  It's easy to have that happen.

You are most definitely NOT a Pod Person. 

[musiclady]

@musiclady yes it is.

Wonder why HE isn't called a "Church Lady?"   

Oh, yeah....... he's a pro-Trump Christian, so he's OK in the atheism Trumpian book. 

[musiclady]

Expanding on the lame "Church Lady" so called insult tossed out on this thread.........

Dana Carvey started that routine in 1986, so it's not even in this century.

In addition it's so hackneyed that anyone who thinks it actually works as an insult has a serious lack of wit.

Any time someone directs it at me, it makes me double over in laughter because it's so dumb that it insults the accuser far more than it does me.

And on this forum, many of those making the argument that the Founding Fathers based our government on moral, Judeo-Christian principles, and that we must elect men and women of character for this nation to survive, are MEN, making the "Church Lady" insult even more idiotic.

A word to the wise.......... if that word applies to whomever uses this silliness......... stop calling moral people Church Ladies.  It makes you look really stupid.   

[jmyrlefuller]

  To do so, under the strange circumstances of Providence, is to complain against God--Who, in His infinite wisdom, set Trump over us right after He had also set Obama over us for eight miserable years.

If you think God micromanaged this election to let such a lecherous narcissist lord over us after eight years of subversive evil, this nation is beyond doomed. It is damned, because this flies flat in the face of almost everything His Word has written.

[Hoodat]

G-d is not a micro-manager.  He handed the keys to Adam/Eve a very long time ago, and never once asked for them back.

[Cyber Liberty]

@musiclady

Sorry I missed the kerfuffle.  Just rolled out of bed.     I liked Dana Carvey, and he had fun roles at which he excelled (Party On, Garth!).  "Church Lady" was my least favorite.  My fault, really...I just don't think making fun of good Christians is particularly amusing, and I was disappointed at the general popularity of the character.

 

[sneakypete]

What is being missed here (deliberately, by some), is that no one here is calling for a theocracy.  No one here wants a Catholic, or Protestant government where church tenets and doctrine are forced on those who do not believe.

@musiclady

You can't POSSIBLY believe that nonsense yourself. There is no such thing as a religion that doesn't want more power in order to enforce their beliefs and to protect their system. If I have heard the words "We need a Godly President!" once while growing up,I have heard it a thousand times. Or seen it in print in editorials.
 

Now that the leftists and Marxists among us have taken away those principles, we are left with a culture that is clueless as to what is right and what is wrong, and we are reaping the results of their destruction of an understood and (mostly) practiced moral code.

And here you are claiming the left has taken away what you claimed never existed.

YES,the left DOES attack organized religion because even though they will never admit it,Marxism is a religion,and their religion doesn't like competition any more than any other religion.

[musiclady]

@musiclady

Sorry I missed the kerfuffle.  Just rolled out of bed.     I liked Dana Carvey, and he had fun roles at which he excelled (Party On, Garth!).  "Church Lady" was my least favorite.  My fault, really...I just don't find making fun of good Christians is particularly amusing, and I was disappointed at the general popularity of the character.

 

Church Lady was stupid at its best.

More than 30 years later on a Conservative website with many Christian posters, it's just plain idiotic.   

[sneakypete]

Indeed.....DUH!   Populists who cheer for and vote R regardless of the complete.... COMPLETE....... lack of Conservatism in their R candidate are the ones who might be defined as "Pod people."

As you say, @DB....... the irony is off the charts.

@musiclady

You need to look in the mirror before you go accusing anyone else of not having character. Not to mention the history books or the book know as the Old Testament.

Or the Koran and the Torah.

Probably the various Asian religions have a "Holy Book" that is similar.

[Cyber Liberty]

Church Lady was stupid at its best.

More than 30 years later on a Conservative website with many Christian posters, it's just plain idiotic.   

There are too many people who think no church exists that doesn't want to have governmental power to force people to be adherents of their faith.  I don't want to be in a church like that.

[sneakypete]

There are too many people who think no church exists that doesn't want to have governmental power to force people to be adherents of their faith.  I don't want to be in a church like that.

@Cyber Liberty @musiclady

"Church Ladies" existed LONG before Dana Carvey did his skits on SNL. They existed in every community in the country,but were obviously more visible in smaller rural communities.

And Carvey was DEAD ON with his impersonations. Especially the "Ain't THAT "special!" sarcasm. On a favorite in the south,"Why,bless yore heart!"

[Free Vulcan]

It is the left that has indoctrinated our schools and universities and created a generation of those who do not understand the importance of moral character, or of serving something higher than themselves.  Some victims of their indoctrination post here on a regular basis.

Conservative principles ALWAYS require character in our candidates and ourselves.

But what is character? Lot's of talk but no action? All hat no cattle? I see all sorts in DC boasting about their character and moral superiority, always posturing as above reproach, but either doing nothing to stop what's going on, or aiding it with their bizarro upside down world view.

Character is not a stained-glass poseur.

[musiclady]

But what is character? Lot's of talk but no action? All hat no cattle? I see all sorts in DC boasting about their character and moral superiority, always posturing as above reproach, but either doing nothing to stop what's going on, or aiding it with their bizarro upside down world view.

Character is not a stained-glass poseur.

Of course it isn't all hat, no cattle.  Of course it isn't boasting about moral superiority.  Of course it isn't doing nothing to stop what's going on.

Of course it isn't a stained-glass poseur.

But you knew that.


So why did you ask? 

[roamer_1]

But what is character? Lot's of talk but no action? All hat no cattle? I see all sorts in DC boasting about their character and moral superiority, always posturing as above reproach, but either doing nothing to stop what's going on, or aiding it with their bizarro upside down world view.

Character is not a stained-glass poseur.

No kidding. But that is not a reason to follow a liberal lout from NYC.

Duncan Hunter Sr comes to mind... No one can accuse him of being other than a gentleman in his posture, and no one can question his Conservative bona fides. He spent a lifetime working for Conservatives... And somehow never had to be a blustering idiot in order to get things done.

A lot of people accuse the Conservatives here for the Bushes and for McAin't and Romney - Saying that is what we prefer to their idiot king. That has never been the case.

If Republicans were lifting up the likes of Duncan Hunter, I would still be a Republican.

[sneakypete]

No kidding. But that is not a reason to follow a liberal lout from NYC.

Duncan Hunter Sr comes to mind... No one can accuse him of being other than a gentleman in his posture, and no one can question his Conservative bona fides. He spent a lifetime working for Conservatives... And somehow never had to be a blustering idiot in order to get things done.

A lot of people accuse the Conservatives here for the Bushes and for McAin't and Romney - Saying that is what we prefer to their idiot king. That has never been the case.

If Republicans were lifting up the likes of Duncan Hunter, I would still be a Republican.

@roamer_1

Yeah,because the survival of America as an independent nation is all about YOU,right?