Wanted: New Conservative Fighters

[Right_in_Virginia]

Wanted: New Conservative Fighters
Townhall, Dec 14, 2018, Sheriff David Clarke (Ret.)

Let me be blunt. It’s obvious to me that the political right needs a fighting force—an organized ground level force built for the political conflicts of the 21st century. Politics has become a contact sport. This force must be unlike many GOP political figures who want to avoid contact and seem obsessed with being admired by the left and the editorial boards of the New York Times and CNN, rather than pushing back against the people seeking to destroy them. Who was it that said, you can’t fix stupid?

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These leftist groups are a formidable foe that the conservative side currently has no response. We need infrastructure, and we need to mobilize it quickly. I want to be clear. I do not advocate for violence, but I do advocate for more effective counter-tactics than the weak-kneed ones currently deployed.

This new conservative fighter has to rid themselves of their self-righteousness about the kind of tactics they will have to use to take on the left’s machine. For instance, taking the high road is an ineffective tactic against this foe as merely is expressing outrage. Proving that we are better than they are is useless. Besides, I already know I am better and don’t have to prove that to anybody. This new political fighter has to be able to fight through whatever the left throws at them and not flinch, apologize, grovel or abandon a conservative or GOP candidate after an opposition research sneak attack.

Think Trump supporter. They have to snicker at being called racist, homophobe, misogynist, lslamaphobe, and fight on. In other words, when the left metaphorically throws rocks, the new conservative fighter has to be willing to pick up those rocks and throw them back. If you need an example just watch how President Trump fearlessly takes on the left.

Many on the conservative side do not have the stomach for this. My response is then get used to losing elections. Get used to gun confiscation. Get used to government control over every aspect of your life. Get ready for totalitarian fascism. You can stop it. If you dare to change tactics and move to the front.


More:  https://townhall.com/columnists/sheriffdavidclarke(ret)/2018/12/14/wanted-new-conservative-fighters-n2537513

[roamer_1]

This new conservative fighter has to rid themselves of their self-righteousness about the kind of tactics they will have to use to take on the left’s machine. For instance, taking the high road is an ineffective tactic against this foe as merely is expressing outrage. Proving that we are better than they are is useless. Besides, I already know I am better and don’t have to prove that to anybody. This new political fighter has to be able to fight through whatever the left throws at them and not flinch, apologize, grovel or abandon a conservative or GOP candidate after an opposition research sneak attack.

Think Trump supporter.

What fetid pap. This article spits in the face of the TEA Party, that worked relentlessly to win a great battle... To countless Conservatives who have given of themselves and manned the front lines for decades before there was ever a Tump supporter.

If you wanted more fighters, you should have elected an actual Conservative - one who does actual Conservative things.

Absolutely not my circus, and not my clown.
GFY David Clarke.

[ABX]

What fetid pap. This article spits in the face of the TEA Party, that worked relentlessly to win a great battle... To countless Conservatives who have given of themselves and manned the front lines for decades before there was ever a Tump supporter.

If you wanted more fighters, you should have elected an actual Conservative - one who does actual Conservative things.

Absolutely not my circus, and not my clown.
GFY David Clarke.

The winner will not be asked afterwards whether he told the truth or not. When starting and waging war it is not right that matters, but winning. - Donald Trump, The America We Deserve

[roamer_1]

The winner will not be asked afterwards whether he told the truth or not. When starting and waging war it is not right that matters, but winning. - Donald Trump, The America We Deserve

Particularly stone dead wrong.

[sneakypete]

Wanted: New Conservative Fighters
Townhall, Dec 14, 2018, Sheriff David Clarke (Ret.)

 Many on the conservative side do not have the stomach for this. My response is then get used to losing elections.

@Right_in_Virginia

They already are. To the point where they are pissed at Trump for winning and want to see him removed from office BECAUSE he won.

[sneakypete]

What fetid pap. This article spits in the face of the TEA Party, that worked relentlessly to win a great battle... To countless Conservatives who have given of themselves and manned the front lines for decades before there was ever a Tump supporter.

If you wanted more fighters, you should have elected an actual Conservative - one who does actual Conservative things.

Absolutely not my circus, and not my clown.
GFY David Clarke.

@roamer_1

The truth hurts,doesn't it?

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1

The truth hurts,doesn't it?

Nope. It ain't me whining that no one will fight for Tumpy the Clown.
Like I said, next time, put in a Conservative and see how much more unity you get.
Start in the principles of Conservatism, and I will be in it with all four feet.
Till then, don't bother. We ain't on the same page. Hell, we ain't even in the same dang library.

[corbe]

  Will there be a dress code requiring us to wear those stupid MAGA hats?

[roamer_1]

  Will there be a dress code requiring us to wear those stupid MAGA hats?

You mean the ones with the stolen slogan on them?

[sneakypete]

Nope. It ain't me whining that no one will fight for Tumpy the Clown.
Like I said, next time, put in a Conservative and see how much more unity you get.
Start in the principles of Conservatism, and I will be in it with all four feet.
Till then, don't bother. We ain't on the same page. Hell, we ain't even in the same dang library.

@roamer_1

Ok,bubba,time to put up or shut up. WHO was the most conservative candidate running for the office of President the last election?

Hell,who was the last actual conservative President,not counting Reagan?

Speak up or shut up.

[BassWrangler]

What fetid pap. This article spits in the face of the TEA Party, that worked relentlessly to win a great battle... To countless Conservatives who have given of themselves and manned the front lines for decades before there was ever a Tump supporter.

If you wanted more fighters, you should have elected an actual Conservative - one who does actual Conservative things.

Absolutely not my circus, and not my clown.
GFY David Clarke.

Well said, @roamer_1

[sneakypete]

Well said, @roamer_1

@BassWrangler

Namely WHO,bubba? Come right out and give us a name or STFU and quit your whining because you are a part of the problem,not the solution.

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1

Ok,bubba,time to put up or shut up. WHO was the most conservative candidate running for the office of President the last election?

The MOST Conservative? That'd be a tossup to me, between Tom Hoefling and Darrell Castle.

Hell,who was the last actual conservative President,not counting Reagan?

Speak up or shut up.

Probably Coolidge - Though incidental. Conservatism as it is today came out of Goldwater and Reagan.

[Frank Cannon]

Senator Elect Milt Romney is up for the challenge. He's Severely Conservative....

[sneakypete]

The MOST Conservative? That'd be a tossup to me, between Tom Hoefling and Darrell Castle.

Probably Coolidge - Though incidental. Conservatism as it is today came out of Goldwater and Reagan.

@roamer_1

OK,fair enough,but since none of those people had any more chance of being elected President than I do,you just play the role of surrender monkey when you don't support the most conservative candidate running,and that was Trump by a mile.

[sneakypete]

Senator Elect Milt Romney is up for the challenge. He's Severely Conservative....

@Frank Cannon

And the fact that he believes that proves how worthless he really is.

[RoosGirl]

@Frank Cannon

And the fact that he believes that proves how worthless he really is.

@sneakypete You realize that the people that you're bashing here for not supporting Trump also did not/do not support Mitt Romney, for more or less the same reason.  And although there are a few, *most* of us also did not/do not support 41 or 43, so let's not go down that road again, we are all well aware how you feel about them.

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1

OK,fair enough,but since none of those people had any more chance of being elected President than I do,you just play the role of surrender monkey when you don't support the most conservative candidate running,and that was Trump by a mile.

The most conservative running were Hoefling and Castle, as you admitted. Thereafter, Cruz and Paul, depending upon your persuasion... Heck, Walker or even Santorum...

Tump is in no way conservative. Tump is liberal is the day is long. Even Huckabee would have a hard time spending like your boy does.

[sneakypete]

The most conservative running were Hoefling and Castle, as you admitted.

Say WHAT? I don't even know who they are,never mind know they were running for anything. I don't even remember ever hearing their names before,so what kind of chance did they have of winning?

Thereafter, Cruz and Paul, depending upon your persuasion... Heck, Walker or even Santorum...

ROFLMAO! I admit that post-election Cruz seems to be more acceptable than pre-election Cruz,but there is still something slightly slimy about him that I just don't trust.

As for Walker or Santorum??????? You have GOT to be joking if you seriously think either one of them would have done the slightest thing to make changes.

Tump is in no way conservative. Tump is liberal is the day is long. Even Huckabee would have a hard time spending like your boy does.

Get thee into rehab before it's too late.  You confuse conservatism with "Bible Thumper",don't you? Not to fear,there are even rehab programs for that.

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete

You realize that the people that you're bashing here for not supporting Trump also did not/do not support Mitt Romney, for more or less the same reason. 

@RoosGirl

I am in no way responsible for anyone's insanity.

[RoosGirl]

@RoosGirl

I am in no way responsible for anyone's insanity.

That's okay, we like it that way, and not having to be responsible for yours. 

[Hoodat]

Wanted: New Conservative Fighters

What you are wanting is the same folks who back in 2016 (and 2012) were turning out in State primaries and battling Priebus and his Establishment hacks who were trying to wrest control away from the local level and concentrate it all at the RNC level.

Unfortunately, Trump supporters did everything they could to destroy that movement and hand all power over to Priebus.  In other words, those new Conservative fighters you are looking for were all handed their walking papers in Cleveland back in Summer 2016.  And the rules put in place by Trump delegates at that convention make it impossible for them to return.

[roamer_1]

Say WHAT? I don't even know who they are,never mind know they were running for anything. I don't even remember ever hearing their names before,so what kind of chance did they have of winning?

@sneakypete
That depends upon your definition of winning... but that's beside the point - I will redirect you to your statement:

@roamer_1

OK,fair enough,but since none of those people had any more chance of being elected President than I do,you just play the role of surrender monkey when you don't support the most conservative candidate running,and that was Trump by a mile.

In your own words, "you just play the role of surrender monkey when you don't support the most conservative candidate running" ...So in other words, you don't mean 'The most conservative running' or we would be in agreement.

ROFLMAO! I admit that post-election Cruz seems to be more acceptable than pre-election Cruz,but there is still something slightly slimy about him that I just don't trust.

Funny that, because I don't think I can vote for him any more. He has sullied himself, to the point that his conservative rating has dropped out of the nineties into the eighties. I still might vote for him given the chance, but I'd have to be talked into it. I think he is damaged goods, like everybody else who jumped on the Tump train.

As for Walker or Santorum??????? You have GOT to be joking if you seriously think either one of them would have done the slightest thing to make changes.

Walker probably would have. He shakes things up... But in hindsight, Santorum would be better than Tump... I don't think any of the above would have spent as much as he has, nor would any of them painted themselves into a corner like Tump has.

And 'making changes' was not your argument. Your argument was wrt Conservatism. ALL of the above mentioned are far more conservative than Tump.

Get thee into rehab before it's too late.  You confuse conservatism with "Bible Thumper",don't you? Not to fear,there are even rehab programs for that.

Nope. But the principles of the Christian Right are every bit as indispensable as the principles of the other factions, and as a Reaganite, I embrace the principles of all the factions. always. And I will not vote for anyone that does not do likewise.

[Axeslinger]

@Right_in_Virginia

They already are. To the point where they are pissed at Trump for winning and want to see him removed from office BECAUSE he won.

I think that is true of the establishment hacks from the swamp and it is probably even true of most of the high level state Republican politicos as well.   The sooner we realize that virtually anyone from DC, with few exceptions, are NOT conservatives’ allies, the better.

However where the trumpers fail and fail miserably is by applying that same mindset to those of us who do not like trump...at all...BUT hope he is successful.  In fact, our single biggest frustration is that he seems to be his own worst enemy, preventing him from being as successful as he might be. 
But the trumpers insistence on unwavering fealty cast aside many who would be mostly likely allies.

As evidence of this, look no further than the replies to this article.   The trumpers are viewing the foot soldiers that Clarke speaks of in terms of those who support trump, when in fact what Clarke is speaking of is irrespective of who is the CiC and is far more long term than the 2 or 6 years trump will be in office.

As always, a whole lot of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

[RoosGirl]

What you are wanting is the same folks who back in 2016 (and 2012) were turning out in State primaries and battling Priebus and his Establishment hacks who were trying to wrest control away from the local level and concentrate it all at the RNC level.

Unfortunately, Trump supporters did everything they could to destroy that movement and hand all power over to Priebus.  In other words, those new Conservative fighters you are looking for were all handed their walking papers in Cleveland back in Summer 2016.  And the rules put in place by Trump delegates at that convention make it impossible for them to return.

Yep.