Climate-Modeling Illusions Not Based on Reality

[Axeslinger]

DECEMBER 7, 2018
Climate-Modeling Illusions Not Based on Reality
By Jay Lehr
For three decades, global warming alarmists have harassed society with stories of gloom and doom as a result of the carbon dioxide emitted into the air by the burning of fossil fuel. They are exercising precisely what prominent writer H.L. Mencken described as “the whole point of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed and hence clamorous to be led to safety by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary”.

In fact, the man-caused global warming or climate change panic may well be the best hobgoblin ever conceived. It has half the world clamoring to be led to safety from climate change without a shred of physical evidence. Every single statement issued to support these fearmongering claims presented in a new 1,500-page report from 13 separate agencies of the federal government by 300 Obama-appointed scientists, has no basis in physical measurements or observations.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/12/climate_modeling_illusions_not_based_in_reality.html


I’m sure there are some here who will utterly dismiss this one too....you know...because...SCIENTISTS!!!

[Sanguine]

It's only fair to ping @Dexter to this thread.

[Bigun]

@Axeslinger

This really isn't news as some of us have been shouting it at the top of our lungs for MANY years now!

[Axeslinger]

It's only fair to ping @Dexter to this thread.

@Sanguine
Oh hell...now you’ve done it.

[Axeslinger]

@Axeslinger

This really isn't news as some of us have been shouting it at the top of our lungs for MANY years now!

@Bigun
I agree wholeheartedly....but apparently some folks are deaf....or blind.

[Sanguine]

@Sanguine
Oh hell...now you’ve done it.

 

He's not coming over here @Axeslinger, he might inadvertently learn something.

[the_doc]

@Axeslinger

Yeah, @Sanguine, you are undoubtedly the single biggest troublemaker on TBR.  I'm shocked by the hypocrisy of your screen name.

You need to take forum etiquette lessons from a kinder, gentler guy--maybe @Frank Cannon.

[LMAO]

The problem when it comes to any climate predictions as you’re dealing with something that is dynamic and a natural part of the earth anyways. We could be in another Ice Age 100 years from now

[Sanguine]

@Axeslinger
Yeah, @Sanguine, you are undoubtedly the single biggest troublemaker on TBR.  I'm shocked by the hypocrisy of your screen name.

You need to take forum etiquette lessons from a kinder, gentler guy--maybe @Frank Cannon.

 

[Dexter]

It's only fair to ping @Dexter to this thread.

I've said everything I have to say about this issue in 10 different ways. I give up.

[Axeslinger]

I've said everything I have to say about this issue in 10 different ways. I give up.

@Dexter
So allow me to translate your reply above:
“I didn’t bother to read the article because I might have to question my whole wold view.”

Color me not surprised.

[Dexter]

Translated as:  I didn’t bother to read the article because I might have to question my whole wold view.

Color me not surprised.

That website is right leaning and this issue has been turned into a partisan fight. That website isn't any more reliable on this issue than ThinkProgress.

[Axeslinger]

That website is right leaning and this issue has been turned into a partisan fight. That website isn't any more reliable on this issue than ThinkProgress.

@Dexter
Turn the dumbass knob down and turn the critical thinking knob up and read the article and comment on the substance of the article rather than just taking the low information, attack the messenger approach. 

I’m convinced you may still have two functioning neurons still talking to each other.  I have faith in you.

[Oceander]

That website is right leaning and this issue has been turned into a partisan fight. That website isn't any more reliable on this issue than ThinkProgress.

Yes as to the first part, but the essential claim is objective, not partisan, and should be capable of evaluation by even non-experts.  Namely, are the models used to generate the temperature warnings sufficiently reliable, or are they based on poorly understood variables, missing variables, and manually input values that are used to make the results come out the way the modeler wants them to, or not?

[Axeslinger]

Yes as to the first part, but the essential claim is objective, not partisan, and should be capable of evaluation by even non-experts.  Namely, are the models used to generate the temperature warnings sufficiently reliable, or are they based on poorly understood variables, missing variables, and manually input values that are used to make the results come out the way the modeler wants them to, or not?

Apparently @Dexter lacks the intellectual honesty to confront his own biases...deferring instead to some all knowing oracles that he calls “scientists”....but only those who support those same biases.

[Wingnut]

Yes as to the first part, but the essential claim is objective, not partisan, and should be capable of evaluation by even non-experts.  Namely, are the models used to generate the temperature warnings sufficiently reliable, or are they based on poorly understood variables, missing variables, and manually input values that are used to make the results come out the way the modeler wants them to, or not?

Would you knock it off talking like that.  There is no place for reasoned thought and logic like that in this topic.

You sir need to leave now!

[the_doc]

Apparently @Dexter lacks the intellectual honesty to confront his own biases...deferring instead to some all knowing oracles that he calls “scientists”....but only those who support those same biases.

FWIW, even TBR has more than a few people who are too proud/stubborn to retract or even seriously reconsider the wrongheaded positions that they have hastily taken in public on our forum. 

Anyway, Dexter doesn't seem to be a "really bad" guy.  (Heck, none of us are innately good.  As a matter of fact, the really bad guys are the libs who think that they are innately good.)

[Sanguine]

[Frank Cannon]

@Axeslinger
Yeah, @Sanguine, you are undoubtedly the single biggest troublemaker on TBR.  I'm shocked by the hypocrisy of your screen name.

You need to take forum etiquette lessons from a kinder, gentler guy--maybe @Frank Cannon.

You are totally correct. The proper way to handle this is not by pinging the poster. That's uncouth. Rather you should trackhim/her down, call them a dirty son of a bitch and then post a link to the thread you want them to check out.

[Wingnut]

You are totally correct. The proper way to handle this is not by pinging the poster. That's uncouth. Rather you should trackhim/her down, call them a dirty son of a bitch and then post a link to the thread you want them to check out.

You really take your Ambassadorship responsibilities seriously.  That is some very good advice.

Well done sir.  You deserve a raise in pay.

[truth_seeker]

It's only fair to ping @Dexter to this thread.

Over a few days,, I posted several articles by competent authorities. He did not respond to a single one, so I gave up on HIM.

[Axeslinger]

FWIW, even TBR has more than a few people who are too proud/stubborn to retract or even seriously reconsider the wrongheaded positions that they have hastily taken in public on our forum. 

Anyway, Dexter doesn't seem to be a "really bad" guy.  (Heck, none of us are innately good.  As a matter of fact, the really bad guys are the libs who think that they are innately good.)

@the_doc
I agree

But sticking your fingers in your ears and singing lalalalala is not the best way to convince others of your “alleged” desire for serious conversation.

[truth_seeker]

Apparently @Dexter lacks the intellectual honesty to confront his own biases...deferring instead to some all knowing oracles that he calls “scientists”....but only those who support those same biases.

I challenge Dexter to define a "math model," "algorithm," etc. how he chooses.

His purpose if he accept the challenge, would be to merely demonstrate that he even understands the process.

And I keep on repeating the question "What cause the warming  to bring about, the end of previous Ice Ages?"

[the_doc]

@the_doc
But sticking your fingers in your ears and singing lalalalala is not the best way to convince others of your “alleged” desire for serious conversation.

Well, there's that.

[catfish1957]

That website is right leaning and this issue has been turned into a partisan fight. That website isn't any more reliable on this issue than ThinkProgress.

Huh?  Right leaning?  So you are basically admitting that AGW is a "left leaning position?

You are making progress son.  Keep it up.