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John Dingell calls for Senate to be abolished
« on: December 04, 2018, 04:19:58 pm »
John Dingell calls for Senate to be abolished
By Chris Mills Rodrigo - 12/04/18 10:21 AM EST

Former Rep. John Dingell (D-Mich.) penned an op-ed Tuesday calling for the Senate to be abolished and for elections to be publicly funded.

Dingell, who represented Michigan in the House for nearly 60 years, wrote for The Atlantic a series of suggestions to address the "unprecedented cynicism about the nobility of public service itself."

The former lawmaker noted that in 1958 a survey from the University of Michigan found that 73 percent of Americans trusted the federal government “to do the right thing almost always or most of the time.” In 2017, the same study conducted by the Pew Research Center found that number down to just 18 percent.

One of the causes of frayed trust identified by Dingell was how a "minority of obnoxious asses can hold the entire country hostage to extremist views" because of the Electoral College system and a Senate that provides two seats to each state regardless of size.

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Re: John Dingell calls for Senate to be abolished
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2018, 04:23:56 pm »
 A liberal Dem always wants consolidation of power.

He cares not we are a group of states
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Re: John Dingell calls for Senate to be abolished
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2018, 06:15:28 pm »
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Re: John Dingell calls for Senate to be abolished
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2018, 06:43:12 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on December 04, 2018, 04:19:58 pm
John Dingell calls for Senate to be abolished
By Chris Mills Rodrigo - 12/04/18 10:21 AM EST

Former Rep. John Dingell (D-Mich.) penned an op-ed Tuesday calling for the Senate to be abolished and for elections to be publicly funded.

Dingell, who represented Michigan in the House for nearly 60 years, wrote for The Atlantic a series of suggestions to address the "unprecedented cynicism about the nobility of public service itself."

The former lawmaker noted that in 1958 a survey from the University of Michigan found that 73 percent of Americans trusted the federal government “to do the right thing almost always or most of the time.” In 2017, the same study conducted by the Pew Research Center found that number down to just 18 percent.

One of the causes of frayed trust identified by Dingell was how a "minority of obnoxious asses can hold the entire country hostage to extremist views" because of the Electoral College system and a Senate that provides two seats to each state regardless of size.

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Like a typical leftist...  he wants mob-rule by a majority... ONLY because he figures that the majority of that mob would be fellow leftists.   I think he is in for a rude awakening....

some day.
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Re: John Dingell calls for Senate to be abolished
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2018, 07:04:24 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on December 04, 2018, 06:43:12 pm
Like a typical leftist...  he wants mob-rule by a majority... ONLY because he figures that the majority of that mob would be fellow leftists.   I think he is in for a rude awakening....

some day.

This total lack of commitment by who are now mainstream leftists to Constitutional checks and balances should worry all of us. They will not restrain themselves, nor can we depend upon the courts to reel them in.

This country is exactly a handful of senators away from these authoritarians seizing power.
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Re: John Dingell calls for Senate to be abolished
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2018, 07:10:10 pm »
That phony balony disgraced assclown is still above ground?   Who knew a guy with his career in the crapper can get a
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Re: John Dingell calls for Senate to be abolished
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2018, 07:25:36 pm »
What a shame that both he and Pelosi now are afflicted with dementia.  **nononono*
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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2018, 07:30:50 pm »
 What he wants has no way of happening first of all. If the Democrats held the Senate and the White House he would not be saying what he is currently saying
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Re: John Dingell calls for Senate to be abolished
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2018, 07:33:12 pm »
Quote from: LMAO on December 04, 2018, 07:30:50 pm
What he wants has no way of happening first of all. If the Democrats held the Senate and the White House he would not be saying what he is currently saying
He must be afraid that the Democrats never again will be in control.
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Re: John Dingell calls for Senate to be abolished
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2018, 07:35:57 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on December 04, 2018, 07:04:24 pm
This total lack of commitment by who are now mainstream leftists to Constitutional checks and balances should worry all of us. They will not restrain themselves, nor can we depend upon the courts to reel them in.

This country is exactly a handful of senators away from these authoritarians seizing power.

I know.   Some of my biggest fears are coming to pass.

We witnessed how George W. Bush's "methods" ended up getting us Barack Hussein Obama, ObamaCare, and a literally stagnant, if not regressive, economy..... not to mention stacking the courts with rabid leftists....for eight frigging years.  I shudder to think what Trump's presidency will result in, once he is out of office.  Scary.  I keep having this nagging thought that it is going to be much, much worse than the Obamanation.  And here I thought it couldn't get any worse than that.  Reality = it can always get worse.   **nononono*
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Re: John Dingell calls for Senate to be abolished
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2018, 07:39:05 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on December 04, 2018, 07:35:57 pm
I know.   Some of my biggest fears are coming to pass.

We witnessed how George W. Bush's "methods" ended up getting us Barack Hussein Obama, ObamaCare, and a literally stagnant, if not regressive, economy..... not to mention stacking the courts with rabid leftists....for eight frigging years.  I shudder to think what Trump's presidency will result in, once he is out of office.  Scary.  I keep having this nagging thought that it is going to be much, much worse than the Obamanation.  And here I thought it couldn't get any worse than that.  Reality = it can always get worse.   **nononono*

Well, if people would quit tempting Fate by saying "How much worse could it get?"

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Re: John Dingell calls for Senate to be abolished
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2018, 07:43:02 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on December 04, 2018, 07:39:05 pm
Well, if people would quit tempting Fate by saying "How much worse could it get?"

:happyhappy:

That's just it though.   Things (the economy) are looking up right now.   Most folks aren't thinking about how bad it can and probably will get once Trump is out of office.  I really wish I could think like most folks.   :crying:
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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2018, 07:48:11 pm »
Dingell is channeling his inner Emperor Palpatine I see.
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Re: John Dingell calls for Senate to be abolished
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2018, 10:39:32 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on December 04, 2018, 07:43:02 pm
That's just it though.   Things (the economy) are looking up right now.   Most folks aren't thinking about how bad it can and probably will get once Trump is out of office.  I really wish I could think like most folks.   :crying:

The Dow dropped 799 points today....
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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2018, 10:41:02 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on December 04, 2018, 10:39:32 pm
The Dow dropped 799 points today....

Chump change in the big picture. 
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« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2018, 10:49:40 pm »
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Chump change in the big picture.

Makes me glad I took the 200K Distro a couple weeks ago, when the markets were up.
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« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2018, 11:42:45 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on December 04, 2018, 10:39:32 pm
The Dow dropped 799 points today....

Yeah.... because azholes like George Soros are manipulating things toward the negative (and to get richer).... as usual.

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« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2018, 11:57:52 pm »
Quote from: LMAO on December 04, 2018, 07:30:50 pm
What he wants has no way of happening first of all. If the Democrats held the Senate and the White House he would not be saying what he is currently saying

What he wants would require what the Dems dream of doing.  Tearing up the Constitution and starting from scratch with a new Progressive Constitution.
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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2018, 12:00:40 am »
Our founding fathers are spinning in their graves. They created the most perfect document in history, apart from the Holy Bible itself, and idiots like Dingell want to tear it up.
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Our founding fathers are spinning in their graves. They created the most perfect document in history, apart from the Holy Bible itself, and idiots like Dingell want to tear it up.

@mountaineer that's because it limits their power.  Obama referred to the Constitution as having "negative liberties"...hence the reason he viewed it as a flawed document. 

Dingell obviously feels the same way.  Never mind it was his Progressive brethren led by Woodrow Wilson who changed how Senators were sent to DC.  Were the old way still in effect...he'd have nothing to bitch about.
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Re: John Dingell calls for Senate to be abolished
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2018, 12:47:31 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on December 04, 2018, 10:39:32 pm
The Dow dropped 799 points today....

The biggest drop that I can ever remember.  The roller coaster ride is here.
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Re: John Dingell calls for Senate to be abolished
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2018, 01:12:10 am »
Quote from: txradioguy on December 05, 2018, 12:07:17 am
@mountaineer that's because it limits their power.  Obama referred to the Constitution as having "negative liberties"...hence the reason he viewed it as a flawed document. 

Dingell obviously feels the same way.  Never mind it was his Progressive brethren led by Woodrow Wilson who changed how Senators were sent to DC.  Were the old way still in effect...he'd have nothing to bitch about.

Fortunately he's an ex-Congressman, removed from his trappings of power.
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« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2018, 04:23:02 am »
He knows it's not gonna happen.

Just a final cry for relevancy.

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« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2018, 04:47:30 am »
He should move to a Communist country.
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Re: John Dingell calls for Senate to be abolished
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2018, 05:42:31 am »
Quote from: libertybele on December 05, 2018, 12:47:31 am
The biggest drop that I can ever remember.  The roller coaster ride is here.

This is the largest (point) drop in nearly two months, and IIRC the third largest this year.
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