Donald Trump, you're no Ronald Reagan

[mystery-ak]

Donald Trump, you're no Ronald Reagan
by Philip Klein
 | November 27, 2018 04:06 PM



President Trump should be holding off on future boasts that he is " far greater" than Ronald Reagan.

His latest comments were made in an interview that appears in a new book by boosters Corey R. Lewandowski and David N. Bossie called "Trump's Enemies."

As reported by my colleague Paul Bedard, Trump said, “The amazing thing is that you have certain people who are conservative Republicans that if my name weren’t Trump, if it were John Smith, they would say I’m the greatest president in history and I blow Ronald Reagan away."

He continued, “All these guys that if they looked at my agenda with a different name ... and he got the biggest regulation cuts in history in less than two years, judges, environmental stuff, getting out of the Paris horror show. If you said that conservative president John Smith did that, they would say he’s the greatest president. Far greater than Ronald Reagan.”

Trump is essentially making the case that anti-Trump conservatives will never give him credit for his accomplishments just because they have personal animus toward him.

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[libertybele]

He may not be 'no' Ronald Reagan but he deserves a lot of credit and has been unjustly criticized.  The left hates him; which is always a good sign.

If he can resolve the issues at the border and get the wall built, along with implementing some type of health care reform, he WILL go down as better than Reagan and one of the greatest president's this country has ever had.

[Emjay]

He may not be 'no' Ronald Reagan but he deserves a lot of credit and has been unjustly criticized.  The left hates him; which is always a good sign.

If he can resolve the issues at the border and get the wall built, along with implementing some type of health care reform, he WILL go down as better than Reagan and one of the greatest president's this country has ever had.

I agree @libertybele and I support him in his efforts to accomplish those two things.

[Frank Cannon]

It may be debatable about whether Trump is Reaganesque or not but one thing is in no doubt.......Philip Klein is a douche.

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

He may not be 'no' Ronald Reagan but he deserves a lot of credit and has been unjustly criticized.  The left hates him; which is always a good sign.

If he can resolve the issues at the border and get the wall built, along with implementing some type of health care reform, he WILL go down as better than Reagan and one of the greatest president's this country has ever had.

If, if, and it's not looking likely anytime soon, he could gut 0care root and branch and turn illegal immigration around to the point where the number of illegals in the country was dropping drastically, I'd say he'd be in the neighborhood of Reagan.  At least in the eyes of those of us who lived through both.  As far as one of the greatest, I really doubt that.  I suspect Reagan will be remembered for the wall, "Honey I forgot to duck", and maybe (hopefully, because it's just a classic)  "I will not make age an issue of this campaign. I am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth and inexperience,".  Trump will also probably have a couple footnotes.  I doubt either will be remembered as greats in a few decades.  Sad as it is, a few generations from now most will know nothing of them, but they'll probably know exactly who Obama was (though, like us, they probably won't know his real name) and not because of all the things he screwed up.

[Frank Cannon]

If, if, and it's not looking likely anytime soon, he could gut 0care root and branch and turn illegal immigration around to the point where the number of illegals in the country was dropping drastically, I'd say he'd be in the neighborhood of Reagan.  At least in the eyes of those of us who lived through both.  As far as one of the greatest, I really doubt that.  I suspect Reagan will be remembered for the wall, "Honey I forgot to duck", and maybe (hopefully, because it's just a classic)  "I will not make age an issue of this campaign. I am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth and inexperience,".  Trump will also probably have a couple footnotes.  I doubt either will be remembered as greats in a few decades.  Sad as it is, a few generations from now most will know nothing of them, but they'll probably know exactly who Obama was (though, like us, they probably won't know his real name) and not because of all the things he screwed up.

I totally agree......Philip Klein is a douche.

[corbe]

   More apt comparison, IMHO, Other than the judges and the Iran deal I see very little difference and results in Trump and obummer's 'in your face' style of governing. 
   Back on Topic, Reagan also dealt with a dem house for his 8 years, something Trump is about to learn.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

And I'd rather have George Patton as one of the JCS but he's dead.

Deal with it.

[berdie]

When I look back at Reagan...I liked him a lot. But he had flaws like most people do.

We'll see how history judges Trump and...GW Bush.

It's early yet.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

When I look back at Reagan...I liked him a lot. But he had flaws like most people do.

We'll see how history judges Trump and...GW Bush.

It's early yet.

Bush?

The guy who wouldn't criticize Bammy but has no trouble giving Trump crap?

That Clown?

[berdie]

Bush?

The guy who wouldn't criticize Bammy but has no trouble giving Trump crap?

That Clown?

Well. he did a good job during 9/11. I won't forget that.

[truth_seeker]

Well. he did a good job during 9/11. I won't forget that.

He made you feel safe and good, for awhile. However building on his start, we are STILL in Afghanistan.

[Right_in_Virginia]

He made you feel safe and good, for awhile. However building on his start, we are STILL in Afghanistan.

Bush 43 screwed the balance of power in the Middle East toward Iran and did nothing to improve immigration vetting or border control.

[Right_in_Virginia]

FTA:

Ultimately, it will take decades to fairly assess Trump's legacy. But one thing that Reagan had going for him is that he had a coherent ideology that was easily translatable for future candidates in subsequent eras. Trump's eclectic brand is very personality driven and affected by his reaction to daily headlines, so it's less clear how his influence will be felt down the road.

Ronald Reagan's ideology was to make America great again.


He did the best he could to fulfill that promise in the world of four decades ago.  His accomplishments were helped by the tailwind of patriotism--not challenged by the headwinds of globalism fueled by politicians in every corner of the globe, including our own.  Even so Reagan made mistakes, including tripling the national debt and legitimizing blanket amnesty.

Ronald Reagan was a good President.  He was the right man for 1980 as Donald Trump is the right man for this moment.  In the fullness of time Reagan will hold his position as one of a handful of memorable, meaningful Presidents; and that handful will include Donald Trump.

[Night Hides Not]

IMHO, Reagan was "The Great Communicator"...Trump is "The Tweeter"

The military was in far worse shape when Reagan took office, and he had to worry about the Soviet Union. They had something like 50+ divisions and 50+ air bases in Eastern Europe to launch an attack on West Germany. Putin's got squat compared to that.


Interest rates were well into the double digits on Inauguration Day 1981. I'd say Reagan had bigger fish to fry when he took office. Trump responds with bellicose diatribes, Reagan simply remarked "there you go again."

[Frank Cannon]

And I would like to add if I haven't yet......Philip Klein is a douche. That is all.

[roamer_1]

Ronald Reagan's ideology was to make America great again.

That is a slogan, not an ideology. That you consider it an ideology highlights the problem... In neon orange.

[Frank Cannon]

That is a slogan, not an ideology. That you consider it an ideology highlights the problem... In neon orange.

Let's all have a round of applause for Ken Duberstein everyone. Glad you are giving us your input on this forum Ken.

[Dexter]

You're damn straight he's not. That flower wouldn't last 5 minutes in today's political atmosphere.

[Dexter]

None of the other ones are going to cut it either. Trump has changed things. You need people with backbone.


Trump would have made Reagan his bitch in the primaries just like he did to Jeb Bush and that creepy bastard from Canada.

[edpc]

IMHO, Reagan was "The Great Communicator"...Trump is "The Tweeter"

The main difference is Reagan actually had a vision of what was good for the country and was not interested in self-aggrandizement.  Reagan brought a real, thoughtful message about his policies, when he addressed the nation on multiple occasions.  All Trump has managed to do is prove Liz Mair right.


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[Right_in_Virginia]

That is a slogan, not an ideology. That you consider it an ideology highlights the problem... In neon orange.

Actually, it's an ideology expressed in a slogan.  And it is easily applicable to national and international policy.

I see not only the same slogan from Reagan and Trump, I see the same direction from both men:  lower taxes, strong military, pro-life, the quest for constitutionalist judges.   I actually see a stronger ideology from President Trump as he takes on globalism with renegotiated trade deals, pushes for stronger immigration control and border protection, and withdraws from idiotic treaties and agreement --- putting America first and making her great again   --- a slogan outlining a mission.


Won't it be the rats ass when history proves the Trump presidency more conservative than Reagan's?   

[Emjay]

He made you feel safe and good, for awhile. However building on his start, we are STILL in Afghanistan.

I resolved not to get into GWB discussions because it infuriates me how TBRers love to diss him.

He was a good governor of Texas and beat the old witch Ann Richards.  He was a good president and he is a good man.  He was wrong on some things and he certainly hasn't said anything about Trump that I didn't say for a year before he got the nomination.

As for comparisons with Reagan, Trump will never have the gentle charm of Reagan but he is right for the current times which are far from gentle.

[WhatWouldReaganDo]

He's no Calvin Coolidge, either.


But maybe he'll be the next Warren Harding.

[Frank Cannon]

He's no Calvin Coolidge, either.


But maybe he'll be the next Warren Harding.

Reagan wasn't close to Calvin either if you forgot. I recall a hell of a lot of spending going on in the 80's and a fair amount of govt' left when Ronny left.