More millennials are moving back home - and it's making everyone depressed:

[Axeslinger]

Those people should be identified and prevented from wasting more resources. We become the greatest in the world by identifying all of our most brilliant people and giving them plentiful opportunities to become educated so they can grow into the people that will make sure America stays on top forever.

@Dexter

That’s just your inner libtard speaking. 

Here’s the problem Dex ol buddy:

Success is not dependent on brilliance.  Success is dependent upon DRIVE. 

Exceptional success is dependent upon DRIVE and brilliance.

MEGA success is dependent upon DRIVE and brilliance and luck.

But ultimately it comes down to each persons DESIRE to push through and not accept the status quo or to continue wallowing forward.  And no program, well wishes or magic fairy dust will impart the necessary DRIVE to succeed.  It’s there or it is not.

[berdie]

Help them find growth opportunities more appropriate to their abilities.

How many instances didn't turn out so good? How many of them could have been better? We are absolutely wasting brilliance in this country.

My dad used to teach IB classes. The kids that excel in those classes are unreal. Some of them do nothing but study. There's a lot of really smart people that could never do that because that's an insane amount of discipline.

Well, we agree on one thing...even though it may be inadvertent on your part.  It takes discipline...and desire.  Sometimes that's what it takes in the beginning.  One can always enjoy the finer things when the goal is obtained.

[Cyber Liberty]

Well, we agree on one thing...even though it may be inadvertent on your part.  It takes discipline...and desire.  Sometimes that's what it takes in the beginning.  One can always enjoy the finer things when the goal is obtained.

Like my Pappy used to say:  "Work before play."

[Dexter]

Success is not dependent on brilliance.

I know that. But most of the time the people that change the world are brilliant. They are a valuable resource that we shouldn't be wasting. 

[Axeslinger]

Giving people the bad news that they're not smart/disciplined enough for college is basically like the Holocaust, right?

@Dexter 

Um no.   You’ve been a particularly willing student to all things conservative here...but this just makes you look like a moral retard.  Not even remotely comparable.


And here’s a news flash for you:   The world needs ditch diggers and septic tank pumpers.

[Axeslinger]

I know that. But most of the time the people that change the world are brilliant. They are a valuable resource that we shouldn't be wasting.

@Dexter
Without DRIVE they are choosing to waste it themselves.   You cannot make the horse drink.

[Cyber Liberty]

I know that. But most of the time the people that change the world are brilliant. They are a valuable resource that we shouldn't be wasting.

Tip:  You should have posted more of Axe's post...it supports your point a couple of lines down from what you quoted.

[Dexter]

The world needs ditch diggers and septic tank pumpers.

Of course it does. People that can't make it in college can be given opportunities to learn trades. I want all Americans to be as productive as they can be.

[RoosGirl]

Just pointing out the limitations of your original statement.

Brilliantly, btw.

[Dexter]

You cannot make the horse drink.

I want to make sure the horse at least always has the opportunity to drink. We waste brilliance in this country because we don't value education enough.

[mountaineer]

People who can't make it in HVAC school should go to college.   

[Axeslinger]

Of course it does. People that can't make it in college can be given opportunities to learn trades. I want all Americans to be as productive as they can be.

@Dexter
And when they do not have the DRIVE to succeed at trade school?  Your utopian ideas will be ground to dust upon the mortar and pestle of actual human laziness and indifference.

You cannot want somethjng for someone else more than they want it for themselves.

[Cyber Liberty]

People who can't make it in HVAC school should go to college.   

I dare say an HVAC Tech makes more than most people with Womyn's Studies Bachelor degrees.  And quite impossible for a person who would major in that to accomplish. 

[berdie]

People who can't make it in HVAC school should go to college.   

And that's the truth!!

[Cyber Liberty]

You cannot want something for someone else more than they want it for themselves.

You should get that etched on mirrors...you could sell a lot of them.  Maybe buy some healthcare insurance...if you already have it, you could buy a boat.

[cato potatoe]

If making sure everybody has access is the objective then I don't see another solution. I'm open to suggestions.

The problem with any government intervention is the unintended market distortion.  You see how government subsidies have created bubbles in real estate and higher education.  It's doing the same thing to heath care, and that only works to limit access.  Europeans have coverage, but less access to specialists and longer wait times in some respects.  I would not look to modern Europe for thought leaders.  We borrowed some of their ideas early on, but they have ridden our coattails for the past 100 years.

[Dexter]

@Dexter
And when they do not have the DRIVE to succeed at trade school?  Your utopian ideas will be ground to dust upon the mortar and pestle of actual human laziness and indifference.

You cannot want somethjng for someone else more than they want it for themselves.

I don't think more public education opportunities will turn out to be a bad thing. Most people are not content with being useless, and I think more opportunities will encourage more people to be less useless.

[sneakypete]

@Dexter

It can't be done without murder because it goes against human nature.

[berdie]

I want to make sure the horse at least always has the opportunity to drink. We waste brilliance in this country because we don't value education enough.

The horse always has a chance to drink in this country. We don't waste brilliance. Individuals waste their own.

But I do have a question for you...on another thread (or maybe on this one, who knows) you advocated the Repubs abandoning social issues. What you are advocating are social issues. So are we supposed to support Bernie Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez?

[roamer_1]

If our government wasn't such garbage and could be forced to use funds more effectively on things that actually help Americans I would be glad to know some of my taxed income went towards helping your young relatives get ahead so America can continue to be the envy of the world. I respect your opinion if you disagree that things should work that way, but I don't think anybody that thinks like you do should claim to be a nationalist.

I make no great claim toward nationalism - Especially National socialism, which is right up your alley. In fact, me and mine are its mortal enemy.

You have no right to the monies you intend to rape from others.
You have no right to what is not your own.

The monster rises and you are cheering.

[Dexter]

@Dexter

It can't be done without murder because it goes against human nature.

I guess that's true if you think most people are naturally bad and useless. I find it hard to believe that European-style safety nets and college opportunities are impossible without mass murder.

[Sanguine]

I make no great claim toward nationalism - Especially National socialism, which is right up your alley. In fact, me and mine are its mortal enemy.

You have no right to the monies you intend to rape from others.
You have no right to what is not your own.

The monster rises and you are cheering.

I've made that point several times and @Dexter just ignores it.  I'm getting a complex.   

[roamer_1]

Yeah, our education system is in shambles. We should look to countries that are doing it better and then do it even better than they do.

Or, look BACK to when we did it better than any of them do now.

[berdie]

I don't think more public education opportunities will turn out to be a bad thing. Most people are not content with being useless, and I think more opportunities will encourage more people to be less useless.

Although I admire your optimism...most people, that are useless,  are very content with being useless.  Don't judge others by yourself. More government opportunities won't change what they are comfortable with.

[Cyber Liberty]

I've made that point several times and @Dexter just ignores it.  I'm getting a complex.   

If that's true, a number of us other folk are getting complexes.