More millennials are moving back home - and it's making everyone depressed:

[Dexter]

Socialist sure do love the word "we"

Nationalists do too.

[Dexter]

I'm more afraid of my nest egg being plundered by big government than I am about it being wiped out for healthcare.  I spend lotsa bucks on Health Insurance to protect me from that, always have.  I was mighty glad I did when it came time for the bilateral hip replacements.

I have reason to fear when I hear things like "You have enough in your 401K" (Obstard said that) or "It's not fair Bill Gates gets to collect Social Security" (says about every leftist, everywhere).  Say that's unfair about Bill Gates and out comes the can of whoop-ass I'll open.

Anybody that would even consider plundering your nest egg disgusts me.

[Cyber Liberty]

Anybody that would even consider plundering your nest egg disgusts me.

I believe you there, I really do.  You don't sound like a looter.  What I question is your experience to see that would be the end result.

Thing is, calls for extra spending (on anything) require funding, and there are unscrupulous people who would not bat an eye looting me to buy votes from somebody else.  It's one thing to say you don't want to plunder, but it's another to propose big spending that will inevitably lead to that plunder.

[txradioguy]

Anybody that would even consider plundering your nest egg disgusts me.

What do you think Liberals and Socialists will do in order to fund the utopia you believe we should all live in?

[roamer_1]

They need both, and I really believe they can have both.

What you really believe is not true.

[Dexter]

What do you think Liberals and Socialists will do in order to fund the utopia you believe we should all live in?

They should start by no longer funding the defense and utopia of other nations. The government takes a whole hell of a lot of our money already. I don't think we're getting enough for it. It's a bad investment. I'm advocating for better investment of the money they already take.

[Cyber Liberty]

They need both, and I really believe they can have both.

Government provided healthcare is the antithesis of Liberty.  Both cannot coexist in a single space.

[Dexter]

Government provided healthcare is the antithesis of Liberty.  Both cannot coexist in a single space.

I think because of less financial burdens a lot of people in Europe experience more liberty than the people here in the states.

[Cyber Liberty]

They should start by no longer funding the defense and utopia of other nations. The government takes a whole hell of a lot of our money already. I don't think we're getting enough for it. It's a bad investment. I'm advocating for better investment of the money they already take.

Government spending is inherently a bottomless pit.  There is never enough of it when there are votes to purchase with OPM.  What we ship off to other countries is a very small fraction of what we waste paying people to be idle.

[Cyber Liberty]

I think because of less financial burdens a lot of people in Europe experience more liberty than the people here in the states.

Sounds good on paper, but sucks in reality when your hip-replacement to treat AVN is wait-listed for over a year.  You have no idea how much AVN stings.  Or when the government decides you're too old to be productive and can't have a procedure done (even if you are willing to fork over the money yourself).  That's not Liberty, it's murder.  Get your mind out of the wallet, there's more to Liberty than not being plundered.

[roamer_1]

The government takes a whole hell of a lot of our money already. I don't think we're getting enough for it.

I don't think they should take it in the first place.

It's a bad investment.

Damn straight. And it always will be.

I'm advocating for better investment of the money they already take.

The best investment is to not give it to them in the first place.

[Dexter]

Government spending is inherently a bottomless pit.  There is never enough of it when there are votes to purchase with OPM.  What we ship off to other countries is a very small fraction of what we waste paying people to be idle.

How much money do you suppose gets wasted on foreign meddling? The 60-100 billion we give away annually is just icing on the cake. How much do we spend on keeping a military presence in Europe? How much do we spend on trying to play police and clean up in third world countries? If we stopped flushing our money down the toilet there would be more than enough to pay for public college and healthcare.

[txradioguy]

They should start by no longer funding the defense and utopia of other nations.

We are currently doing neither.  We are barely able to fund our own military and it needs more money than what it's getting to correct the destruction Obama wrought on us for 8 years.


And I think I know the answer...but just out of curiosity...what other nations utopia are we funding?

The government takes a whole hell of a lot of our money already. I don't think we're getting enough for it. It's a bad investment. I'm advocating for better investment of the money they already take.

You're advocating for more money tossed at social welfare programs and that right now is tossing good money after bad.

Before more money is given...the people who make a living of of nothing but welfare need to be purged from the dole.

There are states where the total of a person's benefits they receive...if they do nothing but live off the public dole...are more than I make as a 20 year veteran of the military every year.

And that kind of largess is generational in or country.  People learn from their elders who learned from their elders how to play the system and live very comfortably as long as you do nothing but live off of welfare.


THAT needs to end before anything else goes forward

[Dexter]

I don't think they should take it in the first place.

That's not an option. We need to work within the confines of the real world.

Damn straight. And it always will be.

The best investment is to not give it to them in the first place.

They will not stop under any party, ever.

[Cyber Liberty]

How much money do you suppose gets wasted on foreign meddling? The 60-100 billion we give away annually is just icing on the cake. How much do we spend on keeping a military presence in Europe? How much do we spend on trying to place police and clean up in third world countries? If we stopped flushing our money down the toilet there would be more than enough to pay for public college and healthcare.

I don't know.  I'll bet it's small compared to close to a Trillion dollars, though.  The demand for the free shit you propose would outstrip the money saved on Foreign Aid in less than a year when the appropriators get their hands on it.

[roamer_1]

I think because of less financial burdens a lot of people in Europe experience more liberty than the people here in the states.

Then you should work to go over there and participate. Really, you should. If it is a better system, then go live under it and be free.

[Dexter]

We are currently doing neither.  We are barely able to fund our own military and it needs more money than what it's getting to correct the destruction Obama wrought on us for 8 years.

Are you kidding me? Obama is an bleep, but the notion that our military is hurting right now is preposterous. Want to strengthen America and save a ton of money at the same time? Bring all of our toys home and build a giant wall. I don't think a lot of people really grasp just how ridiculously powerful our military is. We could also make massive spending cuts without hindering the effectiveness of our military. Congress regularly approves funding for hardware the military doesn't even need/want.

[roamer_1]

That's not an option. We need to work within the confines of the real world.

They will not stop under any party, ever.

The real world says government needs to be small. As long as you think your side can run it better, you are no different than those that are in there now... And predictably so.

[txradioguy]

How much money do you suppose gets wasted on foreign meddling? The 60-100 billion we give away annually is just icing on the cake. How much do we spend on keeping a military presence in Europe? How much do we spend on trying to place police and clean up in third world countries? If we stopped flushing our money down the toilet there would be more than enough to pay for public college and healthcare.

21% of the GDP of the United States is spend on welfare and social programs.

3.5% of the GDP of the United States is spend on the military.

0.18% of our GDP is spent on foreign aid. We are number 22 out of 28 nations as ranked by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD)


So don't sit there and lecture us that we spend more on foreign aid and military than we do on socialist welfare schemes.  It's just not true.

The facts show you are incorrect in your false accusations.


If you actually did your own research and didn't just rely on left wing propaganda you wouldn't continually embarrass yourself on this subject.

[Dexter]

Then you should work to go over there and participate. Really, you should. If it is a better system, then go live under it and be free.

I want us to do what they're doing better than they do because we're America and we should be the greatest.

[Cyber Liberty]

Obama is an bleep, but the notion that our military is hurting right now is preposterous.

Just so you know, those are fighting words to the fellow who's post it is to which you are responding.

[Cyber Liberty]

I want us to do what they're doing better than they do because we're America and we should be the greatest.

America did not become the greatest by copying other countries, and it's not going to start now.

[Dexter]

21% of the GDP of the United States is spend on welfare and social programs.

3.5% of the GDP of the United States is spend on the military.

0.18% of our GDP is spent on foreign aid. We are number 22 out of 28 nations as ranked by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD)


So don't sit there and lecture us that we spend more on foreign aid and military than we do on socialist welfare schemes.  It's just not true.

The facts show you are incorrect in your false accusations.


If you actually did your own research and didn't just rely on left wing propaganda you wouldn't continually embarrass yourself on this subject.

Public university and healthcare is not unobtainable in the greatest country on Earth, especially if we find ways to cut off large amounts of current waste.

[goatprairie]

My parents grew up during the Depression and even though my Dad was a medical professional, we never wasted ANYTHING, nor spent money on things we didn't need.  We were the last people in the neighborhood with a TV (the Cleveland Browns and Indians broke my Dad, and he bought a nice Philco in 1955 so he could watch the games.  ).

Something about a heritage of people who didn't have much helps you appreciate things more than most.  The problem came when some of those Depression raised parents said, "My kids aren't going to want for anything," and so many Boomers were spoiled and spoiled their kids even worse.

I have always been thankful that my parents and my husband's parents bucked the trend and made us work and appreciate what we had.

"so many Boomers were spoiled"

Are you a Boomer?

[Dexter]

America did not become the greatest by copying other countries, and it's not going to start now.

They had a good idea. Big deal. We could do it way better if we wanted to.