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Warning signs mount for Trump re-election bid (Politico)
« on: November 23, 2018, 05:51:48 pm »
Warning signs mount for Trump re-election bid

By Steven Shepard
 
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Donald Trump insists the GOP’s midterm election shellacking had nothing to do with him. Things will be different, he says, when his name is actually on the ballot in 2020.
 
While it’s true that most presidents who see their party suffer major losses in their first midterm election get re-elected anyway, Trump isn’t most presidents — and there are lots of blaring-red warning lights in this month’s election results for his bid for a second term.

Unlike most of his predecessors, he’s been persistently unpopular, with approval ratings mired in the 40-percent range — so far, he’s the only president in the modern era whose job approval ratings have never been over 50 percent, according to Gallup.

Some of Democrats’ biggest gains came in the states that powered Trump’s Electoral College victory in 2016: Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. And while a president’s base has stayed home in previous midterm elections, leading to losses, the record turnout in this year’s races suggests 2018 was more like a 2016 re-run than Trump voters standing on the sidelines.

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Re: Warning signs mount for Trump re-election bid (Politico)
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2018, 05:53:00 pm »
2020 is so far away, politically speaking. 

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Re: Warning signs mount for Trump re-election bid (Politico)
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2018, 06:37:52 pm »
Did Ryan and the anti-Trump faction, sacrifice the party in order to deprive Trump of wins for Obamacare-repeal & replace, and the Wall?

IOW the Ultimate GOP-establishment payback to Trump, for grabbing the Presdency, which they felt was theirs to lose (Bush I, Dole, McCain,, Romney, and the gang of fifteen dwarves)

It seems to me, that is a reasonable hypothesis.
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Re: Warning signs mount for Trump re-election bid (Politico)
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2018, 06:54:28 pm »
Did Ryan and the anti-Trump faction, sacrifice the party in order to deprive Trump of wins for Obamacare-repeal & replace, and the Wall?

IOW the Ultimate GOP-establishment payback to Trump, for grabbing the Presdency, which they felt was theirs to lose (Bush I, Dole, McCain,, Romney, and the gang of fifteen dwarves)

It seems to me, that is a reasonable hypothesis.
It is beyond question that there is an undefined segment of what is called the Republican Party that wanted to lose the midterms to stick-it to Trump. Trump is the antithesis to Liberals and Democrats, but he is also the antithesis of what is called 'reach across the aisle' Republicans a.k.a. RINOs. These guys are essentially government bureaucrats who believe in a government for the government. That is, government exists for the sake of itself, and 'the people' be damned.

There is a reason that Republican leadership refuses to admit that 'voter fraud' even exists at all, much less will they ever do anything about it. In the current environment it serves their short term interests. The goal is to oust Trump at any costs, until they can theoretically get one of their own (Romney, McCain, Bush, Kasich) RNC approved RINOs elected. But the first order of business to the country club, cigar smoking Pubs, is that Trump must go, before he can shake up the gravy train they are riding to the point that it derails.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists.

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Re: Warning signs mount for Trump re-election bid (Politico)
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2018, 07:43:34 pm »
It is beyond question that there is an undefined segment of what is called the Republican Party that wanted to lose the midterms to stick-it to Trump. Trump is the antithesis to Liberals and Democrats, but he is also the antithesis of what is called 'reach across the aisle' Republicans a.k.a. RINOs. These guys are essentially government bureaucrats who believe in a government for the government. That is, government exists for the sake of itself, and 'the people' be damned.

There is a reason that Republican leadership refuses to admit that 'voter fraud' even exists at all, much less will they ever do anything about it. In the current environment it serves their short term interests. The goal is to oust Trump at any costs, until they can theoretically get one of their own (Romney, McCain, Bush, Kasich) RNC approved RINOs elected. But the first order of business to the country club, cigar smoking Pubs, is that Trump must go, before he can shake up the gravy train they are riding to the point that it derails.
Bringing us to the 2020 question:

Who will be the designated GOP loser?


He/she will need to first top Trump for the nomination (should he even run), then go down in defeat to the dem candidate.

The GOP establishment will blame Trump, instead of themselves.
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Re: Warning signs mount for Trump re-election bid (Politico)
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2018, 10:02:13 pm »
Bringing us to the 2020 question:

Who will be the designated GOP loser? He/she will need to first top Trump for the nomination (should he even run), then go down in defeat to the dem candidate.

The GOP establishment will blame Trump, instead of themselves.


There will be no loser, designated or otherwise.  The President is running in 2020 .... he's already collected a boatload of money and has his main slogan up and running:  "Keep American Great"   happy77

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Re: Warning signs mount for Trump re-election bid (Politico)
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2018, 12:16:02 am »
I'm as much of a Trump supporter as anyone else here.
I voted for him once, and will do so again.

But...
I'm also a realist.

And "the warning signs are out there".
They became apparent in the election we just had.

Formerly "reliably red" states... well, they ain't so reliable now, and things are changing quickly.

Look at Arizona, Florida, Ohio, Georgia, Pennsylvania.

O'Rourke came within 2.5 points of beating Ted Cruz, as "conservative" a Republican as one might find in a [supposedly] red state like Texas.

In Florida, deSantis and Scott both eked out wins.
Nothing more complimentary can be said about their "wins" .... EKED 'em out.

In Georgia, the Republican candidate for governor nearly got hisself whupped by a dumb gal mayor of Atlanta, who STILL calls the election illegitimate.

This stuff shouldn't be happening.
But it is.

The vote fraud you witnessed goin' on all around (probably most effectively in Orange County, California) is a mere dress rehearsal for what the democrat-communists will attempt in 2020.

The Pubbies better start NOW to assemble teams of folks who will be ready to monitor and challenge vote fraud wherever found (in EVERY state) in 2020.

If not, the polluted blue waters may rise even higher next time.

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Re: Warning signs mount for Trump re-election bid (Politico)
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2018, 05:27:10 am »
I'm as much of a Trump supporter as anyone else here.
I voted for him once, and will do so again.

But...
I'm also a realist.

And "the warning signs are out there".
They became apparent in the election we just had.

Formerly "reliably red" states... well, they ain't so reliable now, and things are changing quickly.

Look at Arizona, Florida, Ohio, Georgia, Pennsylvania.

O'Rourke came within 2.5 points of beating Ted Cruz, as "conservative" a Republican as one might find in a [supposedly] red state like Texas.

In Florida, deSantis and Scott both eked out wins.
Nothing more complimentary can be said about their "wins" .... EKED 'em out.

In Georgia, the Republican candidate for governor nearly got hisself whupped by a dumb gal mayor of Atlanta, who STILL calls the election illegitimate.

This stuff shouldn't be happening.
But it is.

The vote fraud you witnessed goin' on all around (probably most effectively in Orange County, California) is a mere dress rehearsal for what the democrat-communists will attempt in 2020.

The Pubbies better start NOW to assemble teams of folks who will be ready to monitor and challenge vote fraud wherever found (in EVERY state) in 2020.

If not, the polluted blue waters may rise even higher next time.
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Agree w/ this advice.
From one who also voted for Trump, permit an even more
dramatic assertion; his re-nomination is not guaranteed.
It should be clear by now that Trump makes enemies in a
flash while his friends are fickle. This simply cannot continue.

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Re: Warning signs mount for Trump re-election bid (Politico)
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2018, 06:13:46 am »
Only one flaw in this premise. It fails to account for the growing coalition of Trump voters out there that cut across traditional demographics and democrat-republican, left-right lines.

It won’t be easy – or safe – to attempt to wrest power away from those folks once the people have seen for themselves the evils inside of American politics that have been openly unleashed upon Donald Trump. It hasn’t been a pretty thing to witness, and I don’t think they (we) are gonna stand for it.

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Re: Warning signs mount for Trump re-election bid (Politico)
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2018, 04:20:08 pm »
Only one flaw in this premise. It fails to account for the growing coalition of Trump voters out there that cut across traditional demographics and democrat-republican, left-right lines.

It won’t be easy – or safe – to attempt to wrest power away from those folks once the people have seen for themselves the evils inside of American politics that have been openly unleashed upon Donald Trump. It hasn’t been a pretty thing to witness, and I don’t think they (we) are gonna stand for it.

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Re: Warning signs mount for Trump re-election bid (Politico)
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2018, 08:50:33 pm »
Only one flaw in this premise. It fails to account for the growing coalition of Trump voters out there that cut across traditional demographics and democrat-republican, left-right lines.

It won’t be easy – or safe – to attempt to wrest power away from those folks once the people have seen for themselves the evils inside of American politics that have been openly unleashed upon Donald Trump. It hasn’t been a pretty thing to witness, and I don’t think they (we) are gonna stand for it.
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Perhaps, but consider this reality.
Trump addressed dozens of rallies this fall where his fans screamed
till they were hoarse and yet the R's lost the House by almost 40 seats
while just holding the Senate.
Average citizens are emphatically not consumed by politics.
Their lives rotate around Family, Friends, Job and Interests.
They want to believe and trust their leaders yet they also want to be
able to like them. As such, it should be obvious that Trump's likability
has eroded dramatically since 2016, as his approval rating attests.