Trump: 'We're going to start paying down debt'

[DB]

Isn't that the guy who can barely get 4 points ahead of a skateboarding devout Marxist?

Your guy got less votes than the Hildabeast.

What's your point?

[Frank Cannon]

Your guy got less votes than the Hildabeast.

What's your point?

Votes don't matter in that race as defined by the Constitution. Ted's on the other hand.....

[Frank Cannon]

It is easy to make things boom when you cut taxes and increase government spending - with borrowed printed money.

Yeah. I'll tell all the people in my area that the better paying jobs and prosperity they are enjoying is fake and that they should hunker down and be depressed. Tens of hundreds of Trump haters are relying on them to do so.

It isn't real and can't be sustained.

Why don't you follow that up with a lecture on Peak Oil and Overpopulation.

[Sighlass]

Isn't that the guy who can barely get 4 points ahead of a skateboarding devout Marxist?

It ain't the guy who buried his face in the bosom of a cross dressing Rudy. 

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[Frank Cannon]

It ain't the guy who buried his face in the bosom of a cross dressing Rudy. 

Winners can shoot people on 5th Ave for all I care because they are, well, winners. Now Ted, on the other hand is coming off an embarrassing loss.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

Sure he will.

   "Trump didn't elaborate"

Right after Mexico pays for his wall.

Every Illegal Mexican that doesn't Get in to send money back home and out of this country is already "paying" for the wall.

So let's see what actually happens on This caravan.

[Dexter]

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LOL WTF?

[DB]

Yeah. I'll tell all the people in my area that the better paying jobs and prosperity they are enjoying is fake and that they should hunker down and be depressed. Tens of hundreds of Trump haters are relying on them to do so.

Why don't you follow that up with a lecture on Peak Oil and Overpopulation.

You already know that I've never made any such claims about "peak oil" or "overpopulation". Just a strawman argument from you when you can't address the point.

Good luck with your denial of economic reality. Venezuelans said much the same. Free shit for everyone.

[LMAO]

You already know that I've never made any such claims about "peak oil" or "overpopulation". Just a strawman argument from you when you can't address the point.

Good luck with your denial of economic reality. Venezuelans said much the same. Free shit for everyone.

So did the Greeks, the Italians, ect ect.  It all works until it no longer does.

I hope the president, along with Congress, are serious about this but my feeling is this is just talk

[Night Hides Not]

So did the Greeks, the Italians, ect ect.  It all works until it no longer does.

I hope the president, along with Congress, are serious about this but my feeling is this is just talk

The emphasis on situational ethics and the ignorance of historical events on the part of AT's is annoying to say the least.

Reminds me of a conversation I had with a millenial a few months back, when bitcoin was the next "investment" to make one filthy rich. I told him it sounded promising, but I'm still trying to recover from my losses in the Dutch Tulip bubble.


That remark went WAY over his head. 

https://www.investopedia.com/features/crashes/crashes2.asp

Like most of my colleagues on TBR, I will continue to praise Trump on his successes, while being extremely wary of his tweets and pronouncements that serve only to keep the base ginned up. Reasoned debate with AT's is mostly fruitless, as they have shown a penchant for personal attacks and non sequiturs as their counterpoints.

For example, a standard bit of theirs is "if you're not for Trump (on this issue), then you wanted Hillary in the White House."

[Formerly Once-Ler]

If Trump says he's gonna build a wall, drain the swamp, lock up Hitlery, or pay down the debt...it's gonna get done!!!

...in the mirror universe
...we used to live in
...where words have meaning.

[roamer_1]

[GrouchoTex]

I hope he follows through.
We have the opportunity.
I am afraid the longer we wait, the more difficult it will become.
He may be the one who has to start by using the power of the veto, which he has not done yet.

[aligncare]

I’m optimistic about President Trump moving us in that direction. The thing I’m certain about is that Rome wasn’t built in a day and that fixing the bureaucratic bloat and waste and government intransigence may take a bit longer.

[Applewood]

I’m optimistic about President Trump moving us in that direction. The thing I’m certain about is that Rome wasn’t built in a day and that fixing the bureaucratic bloat and waste and government intransigence may take a bit longer.

If Trump was serious about reducing the  debt or deficit, why did he sign the last couple of spending spree bills offered to him by congress?  He did and does have the power to veto those bills, bur he hasn't used it.  That makes me think this is just another campaign promise ahead of Tuesday's election.  Like all other campaign promises, it's meaningless.

[aligncare]

If Trump was serious about reducing the  debt or deficit, why did he sign the last couple of spending spree bills offered to him by congress?  He did and does have the power to veto those bills, bur he hasn't used it.  That makes me think this is just another campaign promise ahead of Tuesday's election.  Like all other campaign promises, it's meaningless.

I stated my opinion why. Because Rome wasn’t built in a day.

Trump has been tackling issues not because they are easy but because they are hard. In the fullness of his administration I’m confident he’ll turn attention to each of the hard things.  His energy and commitment to the things he promised his voters hasn’t changed, not in anything I’ve seen.

I expect he’s going to lose some political battles. But, not where it concerns money he won’t. Like I said, I’m optimistic he’ll apply his trade to paying down debt, but it’s a process. After all, he was willing to kick an old lady out of her house next to his casino. 

[DB]

If Trump was serious about reducing the  debt or deficit, why did he sign the last couple of spending spree bills offered to him by congress?  He did and does have the power to veto those bills, bur he hasn't used it.  That makes me think this is just another campaign promise ahead of Tuesday's election.  Like all other campaign promises, it's meaningless.

Trump had a chance to change course on deficit spending when he first came into office. That ship has sailed.

[Idaho_Cowboy]

We'll just have to keep our eye on this.  The deficit to GDP ratio is better than 2010.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/

[Chosen Daughter]

If Trump was serious about reducing the  debt or deficit, why did he sign the last couple of spending spree bills offered to him by congress?  He did and does have the power to veto those bills, bur he hasn't used it.  That makes me think this is just another campaign promise ahead of Tuesday's election.  Like all other campaign promises, it's meaningless.

Exactly.  The last one he signed after he said the previous time he wouldn't.

[TomSea]

If Trump was serious about reducing the  debt or deficit, why did he sign the last couple of spending spree bills offered to him by congress?  He did and does have the power to veto those bills, bur he hasn't used it.  That makes me think this is just another campaign promise ahead of Tuesday's election.  Like all other campaign promises, it's meaningless.

Our men in uniform certainly are not meaningless and deserved a pay raise. The very idea.

Yes, we do need to improve the defense of our nation.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Our men in uniform certainly are not meaningless and deserved a pay raise. The very idea.

Yes, we do need to improve the defense of our nation.

Against who?  Russia?  They own him already.

[Applewood]

Our men in uniform certainly are not meaningless and deserved a pay raise. The very idea.

Yes, we do need to improve the defense of our nation.

Yes, I guess that was the excuse --twice!

Sure we want our soldiers to be well paid and well equipped to do their job . But signing off on spending bills is not the way to do it. 

I don't know about everyone else here, but if I want something, I make sure I have the money to pay for it.  I don't run up charges on my credit card, then worry later about how I'm going to pay for it.  If I don't have the money now, I wait till I get it.  If I never get the money, then I don't get what I want.  Sometimes to pay for things I have to cut out or cut down spending on other things.  This is what a budget is.

This country doesn't have a budget.  It just runs up charges on a giant credit card. The more charges it runs up, the harder it is to pay the debt.  And the further in debt this country gets, the further it falls into the abyss.  Our politicians, Trump included, apparently don't care that this country will eventually end up like Greece or Venezuela or worse. 

[Applewood]

I stated my opinion why. Because Rome wasn’t built in a day.

That's not a reason.  Seems more like an excuse and a bad one at that. 

As I said, Trump as president has veto power.  He could have used that power with respect to the first spending spree bill that came to his desk.  He didn't have to wait for Rome to be built.  So again, why didn't he? 

[TomSea]

By the way, from my understanding, Trump did not campaign on immediately reducing the budget or deficit. If this is so, those being dishonest would be those who make unfounded accusations.

[TomSea]

Against who?  Russia?  They own him already.

Hardly and no way, as sanctions are way worse than under Obama. Maybe who Russia owns are who allowed them Crimea and to take hold of parts of Eastern Ukraine... not the administration that had to basically massacre 250 Russian mercenaries, gee, that does not count nor does striking Syria two times.