Pollster Zogby: Dem House win ‘far from certain, elusive,' Senate 'nearly impossible'

[Formerly Once-Ler]

That seems bad.

However, this is ABC, which forecast on Oct 3 2016 that Hillary would get 68% of the electoral votes for President.
https://abcnews.go.com/fivethirtyeight/video/fivethirtyeight-election-forecast-update-oct-2016-55767774

@IsailedawayfromFR
That's a Trump truth.  It's what used to be referred to a a lie.  538 said Hitlery was a 68% favorite to win, not that she would get 68% of the vote.

[Emjay]

Polls haven't been accurate for the past several election cycles.  I think that the GOP is in trouble. 

Hope we see record turn out.  Another Schumer Senate and Pelosi House would be a disaster for this country and they will try to impeach one of the best Presidents we've had in decades.

Polls have been notoriously inaccurate, but I don't think the GOP is in trouble at all. 

[truth_seeker]

@IsailedawayfromFR
That's a Trump truth.  It's what used to be referred to a a lie.  538 said Hitlery was a 68% favorite to win, not that she would get 68% of the vote.

Pretty fixated on Dear Hillary,, are you?

"Jobs, Not Mobs"

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Pretty fixated on Dear Hillary,, are you?

@IsailedawayfromFR offered a link to his assertion. I clicked it and one minute later found that he had made a false assertion.  I do that kind of stuff.  I question what I'm being sold.  I consider myself a @truth_seeker .

[libertybele]

It would be a great thing if the R's have enough of a majority in the House and Senate to get something done.

??? The GOP has held the majority for the past several election cycles including the last 2 years of Bammy's reign of terror.  A majority is a majority and to ascribe to the fact that they need a larger majority to accomplish something is ... well...utter nonsense.

Don't buy into the blame game, or the bologna that they need a larger majority.  What the do need is to do their darn jobs and actually listen to their constituents that put them in office and vote and act accordingly!

I for one believe that the GOP is in trouble in the House. They haven't done squat especially under the liberal leadership of Lyin' Ryan!

[bilo]

??? The GOP has held the majority for the past several election cycles including the last 2 years of Bammy's reign of terror.  A majority is a majority and to ascribe to the fact that they need a larger majority to accomplish something is ... well...utter nonsense.

Don't buy into the blame game, or the bologna that they need a larger majority.  What the do need is to do their darn jobs and actually listen to their constituents that put them in office and vote and act accordingly!

I for one believe that the GOP is in trouble in the House. They haven't done squat especially under the liberal leadership of Lyin' Ryan!

I think the Rats may have saved the Pubs with their insane behavior. The Pubs sure haven't inspired. obamacare is still on the books. The wall isn't built. Immigration isn't reformed. Planned Parenthood is still being given money and of course they are running ad campaigns against the Pubs.

I know, I know the argument is none of those things will get done with the Rats, but the Pubs were given everything they asked for and they still didn't get it done. They found a way to do permanent corporate tax cuts and temporary individual tax cuts, but they didn't do much of anything else.

[Emjay]

I think the Rats may have saved the Pubs with their insane behavior. The Pubs sure haven't inspired. obamacare is still on the books. The wall isn't built. Immigration isn't reformed. Planned Parenthood is still being given money and of course they are running ad campaigns against the Pubs.

I know, I know the argument is none of those things will get done with the Rats, but the Pubs were given everything they asked for and they still didn't get it done. They found a way to do permanent corporate tax cuts and temporary individual tax cuts, but they didn't do much of anything else.

It might be wise to give a thought to where we would be if we DIDN'T have Trump.  We at least have a good chance to get those things done and a bigger Republican majority would be a huge help.

I think it would give courage to the timid and I also think the Republican congress critters are reluctantly warming to Trump because he is a leader and a fearless one.

[libertybele]

It might be wise to give a thought to where we would be if we DIDN'T have Trump.  We at least have a good chance to get those things done and a bigger Republican majority would be a huge help.

I think it would give courage to the timid and I also think the Republican congress critters are reluctantly warming to Trump because he is a leader and a fearless one.

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Not so sure on this one. Sure there are a few members of Congress warming to Trump,  but are they warming merely trying to save their seats? Even at that, getting behind him now is a little too late.  The House failed to budget the wall.  That's the bottom line.  They failed to repeal Bammycare. These are the issues that most of them ran on and made promises on.  As usual they did not deliver and they had a decent sized majority.  There just is absolutely no excuse for their failure to deliver on what they promised. They failed period.

The question perhaps that needs to be asked is will the GOP base still come out to vote or are they so disgusted that they throw in the towel and sit it out? Ryan is making his exit making holding onto the House even more difficult because now there's added uncertainty.  Even IF the GOP manages to hold onto their majority, will they elect someone more liberal or conservative than Ryan as the new speaker?

[IsailedawayfromFR]

@IsailedawayfromFR
That's a Trump truth.  It's what used to be referred to a a lie.  538 said Hitlery was a 68% favorite to win, not that she would get 68% of the vote.

correto, i misspoke on that one but the underlying truth is abc cannot make accurate forecasts remains truthful

[Formerly Once-Ler]

correto, i misspoke on that one but the underlying truth is abc cannot make accurate forecasts remains truthful

It takes a big man to admit he was wrong.  Respect.

[bilo]

It might be wise to give a thought to where we would be if we DIDN'T have Trump.  We at least have a good chance to get those things done and a bigger Republican majority would be a huge help.

I think it would give courage to the timid and I also think the Republican congress critters are reluctantly warming to Trump because he is a leader and a fearless one.

It really isn't relevant where we would be without Trump concerning the mid-term elections. The reality is Trump did win and the Pubs had the Presidency, House and Senate. They said they would do certain things  if this happened and then found ways to come up short. A bigger Pub majority won't mean a thing. The critical issues are what are the political leanings of that majority and what is the party discipline. Adding moderates who don't stand with the party on key issues doesn't do us any good.

I think the Pubs that are warming to Trump now are doing so because they see their futures are in danger. Trump has been winning because he fights and doesn't quit. If the Pubs lose the House we will have 2 yrs of hysteria and lies from the Rats, but in 2 yrs we may end up with enough conservatives replacing the Rats that we really have a Pub party that will do what it says it will. If the Pubs hold the House will we get support of Trump's agenda or more of the same, wishy washy half measures?

[corbe]

   If the GOP keeps the House, McCarthy needs to bring back the Hastert Rule to try and get control on this spending.  When more demonrats than Republicans are voting for your budgets, you're already under water.

[Emjay]

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Not so sure on this one. Sure there are a few members of Congress warming to Trump,  but are they warming merely trying to save their seats? Even at that, getting behind him now is a little too late.  The House failed to budget the wall.  That's the bottom line.  They failed to repeal Bammycare. These are the issues that most of them ran on and made promises on.  As usual they did not deliver and they had a decent sized majority.  There just is absolutely no excuse for their failure to deliver on what they promised. They failed period.

The question perhaps that needs to be asked is will the GOP base still come out to vote or are they so disgusted that they throw in the towel and sit it out? Ryan is making his exit making holding onto the House even more difficult because now there's added uncertainty.  Even IF the GOP manages to hold onto their majority, will they elect someone more liberal or conservative than Ryan as the new speaker?

It doesn't matter why they are warming to Trump.  Obviously, a lot of it is to further their own interests.  They ARE politicians you know.  But as long as they want to stay on Trump's good side, and that results in them voting with him on his projects and proposals, I don't care if they make a wax doll of him at night and light a match to it.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

??? The GOP has held the majority for the past several election cycles including the last 2 years of Bammy's reign of terror.  A majority is a majority and to ascribe to the fact that they need a larger majority to accomplish something is ... well...utter nonsense.

If you only have a bare majority, and part of that majority is people like Murkowski, Collins (other than on Kavanaugh), McCain, etc.,...how are you supposed to win?  The GOP lost on ObamaCare because McCain was a glory hound.  I don't see how it is fair to blame his vote on Trump, or McConnell, or on any of the other Republicans who voted the other way.

The only reason we don't have full-on socialized medicine for everyone in this country is because there were enough Blue Dog Democrats in the House to prevent it.  Again, margin mattered very much.

[libertybele]

If you only have a bare majority, and part of that majority is people like Murkowski, Collins (other than on Kavanaugh), McCain, etc.,...how are you supposed to win?  The GOP lost on ObamaCare because McCain was a glory hound.  I don't see how it is fair to blame his vote on Trump, or McConnell, or on any of the other Republicans who voted the other way.

The only reason we don't have full-on socialized medicine for everyone in this country is because there were enough Blue Dog Democrats in the House to prevent it.  Again, margin mattered very much.

Sorry Major, I can't give a pass to the GOP.  They've had the majority for the past 4 years.  In the House they have a huge majority over the DEMS -- GOP 240  DEM 195.  Lousy leadership in the House is an absolute as Ryan has been no better than Bonehead.  Granted in the Senate we have a slim majority, but they've managed to seat 2 conservative (Kavanaugh yet to be determined) justices.

The House holds the purse strings ... yet with a huge GOP majority we have no wall.  The House backpedaled on Bammycare and sent it off to the Senate.  The House under Ryan leadership has been a huge problem. I knew absolutely nothing would change the minute they announced that they kept Lyin' Ryan as speaker.  It would seem that Trump has been able to keep McConnell in line as he has changed his tune and certainly Graham has stepped up to the plate.  Even Collins has come around.

Every seat is up for grabs in the House.  I don't hold a whole lot of hope.

[HootOwl]

skeeter wrote:
"It would be great if the rats lost bad enough to slap some sense into the party"

Why in heck would we want that?

I want to see the democrat-communists get crazier and crazier, until they are so far removed from reality that they turn into some political black hole and consume themselves...

The only sense you can knock in the head of these socialist Democrats is to  campaign like a "moderate".  Make the voters think you support Trump when he is right.  Concentrate on local issues that has the district tied up in knots.  Maybe the voters will forget what power-hungry, money grabbing Socialist they really are.  If they get majorities ever again, it's adios America.  They will pack the courts, get  their buddies back in the Justice Dept and the FBI.  They will make sure the GOP and conservatives never get near the White House, or get control of Congress Ever.