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Trump unsure if Mattis will stay: 'He's sort of a Democrat'
« on: October 14, 2018, 01:11:56 pm »
Trump unsure if Mattis will stay: 'He's sort of a Democrat'
By Brett Samuels - 10/14/18 09:00 AM EDT

President Trump said in an interview broadcast Sunday that it's possible Defense Secretary James Mattis will leave his administration.

Trump told Lesley Stahl of "60 Minutes" that Mattis hasn't told him that he intends to leave his post, but demurred when asked if he'd like to see the general depart the Cabinet.

"I have a very good relationship with him," Trump said. "I had lunch with him two days ago. I have a very good relationship with him. It could be that he is.

"I think he's sort of a Democrat, if you want to know the truth," the president continued. "But General Mattis is a good guy. We get along very well. He may leave. I mean, at some point, everybody leaves. Everybody. People leave. That's Washington."

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Re: Trump unsure if Mattis will stay: 'He's sort of a Democrat'
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2018, 03:46:13 pm »
Sort of a democrat???  Will Mattis stay after that horrible insult?  I hope he does.  I like him.
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Re: Trump unsure if Mattis will stay: 'He's sort of a Democrat'
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2018, 03:50:33 pm »
And trumps uncontrollable mouth strikes again.  3 steps forward, 2 steps back.  The direction is good but man, just think of the progress he could be making if he didn’t have the emotional maturity of a 13 year old girl.   The man is his own worst enemy.
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Re: Trump unsure if Mattis will stay: 'He's sort of a Democrat'
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2018, 03:52:57 pm »
And trumps uncontrollable mouth strikes again.  3 steps forward, 2 steps back.  The direction is good but man, just think of the progress he could be making if he didn’t have the emotional maturity of a 13 year old girl.   The man is his own worst enemy.

At some moments it kinda seems that way, but on the whole, he's good.  It's not so much a matter of immaturity as it is impulsiveness.  Saying what comes into your head.
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Re: Trump unsure if Mattis will stay: 'He's sort of a Democrat'
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2018, 04:03:33 pm »
At some moments it kinda seems that way, but on the whole, he's good.  It's not so much a matter of immaturity as it is impulsiveness.  Saying what comes into your head.

My point is most adults realize that impulsivity is counterproductive as they mature.   Apparently, he skipped that day in class.
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Re: Trump unsure if Mattis will stay: 'He's sort of a Democrat'
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2018, 04:03:58 pm »
Not everyone shares The Hill's emphasis:

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Trump on prospect of Mattis' departure: "At some point, everybody leaves"
CBS, Oct 14, 2018

President Trump suggested that Defense Secretary James Mattis could be one of the next administration officials to depart his Cabinet. In an interview airing on "60 Minutes" Sunday, the president said there are "some people" in his administration that he's "not thrilled with."

Asked by correspondent Lesley Stahl if Mattis is going to be leaving, Mr. Trump replied: "Well, I don't know. He hasn't told me that."

"I have a very good relationship with him. I had lunch with him two days ago. I have a very good relationship with him. It could be that he is. I think he's sort of a Democrat, if you want to know the truth," Mr. Trump said of the retired Marine Corps general.

"But General Mattis is a good guy. We get along very well. He may leave. I mean, at some point, everybody leaves. Everybody. People leave. That's Washington."

Mr. Trump dismissed reports of chaos in the White House as "fake news," but said, "I'm changing things around. And I'm entitled to. I have people now on standby that will be phenomenal. They'll come into the administration, they'll be phenomenal."


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Re: Trump unsure if Mattis will stay: 'He's sort of a Democrat'
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2018, 04:23:36 pm »
"I have people now on standby that will be phenomenal. They'll come into the administration, they'll be phenomenal."

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Re: Trump unsure if Mattis will stay: 'He's sort of a Democrat'
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2018, 04:37:15 pm »
If he's sort of a Democrat he should go.  Maybe our military could start defending us against invasion.

Funny General Mattis hs nothing bad to say about Trump on twitter.  Guess its a one way street for Trump.  I don't know if its true he is a Democrat.  Is this Fake News from Trump?
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Re: Trump unsure if Mattis will stay: 'He's sort of a Democrat'
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2018, 05:20:00 pm »
Hey Donald..... Gen. Mattis isn't the one that donated to Democrats (Hillary, Schumer, Dodd, Daschle, Durbin, Rangel, Kerrey, Kennedy, Menendez, & Harry Reid).  So... wouldn't that make you "sort of" a Democrat?   :rolling:
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Re: Trump unsure if Mattis will stay: 'He's sort of a Democrat'
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2018, 05:33:54 pm »
Hey Donald..... Gen. Mattis isn't the one that donated to Democrats (Hillary, Schumer, Dodd, Daschle, Durbin, Rangel, Kerrey, Kennedy, Menendez, & Harry Reid).  So... wouldn't that make you "sort of" a Democrat?   :rolling:

Don't forget Communist DeBlasio.  Trump funded his mayoral campaign and stumped for him too.

Of course the Trumpistas told us that doing so was 'wise' business strategy.  Yes, because funding Communists running for high office always helps capitalism..../sarc.
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Re: Trump unsure if Mattis will stay: 'He's sort of a Democrat'
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2018, 05:33:58 pm »
"I have people now on standby that will be phenomenal. They'll come into the administration, they'll be phenomenal."


They came and they were.  When did the President say they will stay forever?

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Re: Trump unsure if Mattis will stay: 'He's sort of a Democrat'
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2018, 05:39:07 pm »
They came and they were.  When did the President say they will stay forever?

Josh Earnest doesn't hold a candle to you people in the spin and twist department.  You folks have definitely raised that bar to heights unseen.
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Re: Trump unsure if Mattis will stay: 'He's sort of a Democrat'
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2018, 05:50:43 pm »
Don't forget Communist DeBlasio.  Trump funded his mayoral campaign and stumped for him too.

Of course the Trumpistas told us that doing so was 'wise' business strategy.  Yes, because funding Communists running for high office always helps capitalism..../sarc.

Oh, there's quite a few more rats he donated to back then.  But the ones I mentioned are the most notable and notorious for their damage to our nation.  DeBlasio only helped to screw up New York.

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Re: Trump unsure if Mattis will stay: 'He's sort of a Democrat'
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2018, 06:17:03 pm »
Josh Earnest doesn't hold a candle to you people in the spin and twist department.  You folks have definitely raised that bar to heights unseen.

It's not spin.  It's the reality of politics.  It's a blood sport.  Many through the decades have come, served, and left .... happily back to retirement or the private sector.

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Re: Trump unsure if Mattis will stay: 'He's sort of a Democrat'
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2018, 06:30:16 pm »
It sounds like he's a bit of a Democrat if he believes in global warming... but more on Mattis:
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Mattis has never been married[54] and has no children.[2] He proposed to a woman named Alice Gillis, but she called off the wedding days before it was to occur, not wanting to burden his career.[19] He is nicknamed "The Warrior Monk" because of his bachelorhood and lifelong devotion to the study of war.[128]

Mattis is a Catholic, and has been described as "devout"[129] and "committed."[130] During the 2003 Iraq invasion, he often prayed with general John F. Kelly on Sundays.[129] The Trump transition team's formal biography of Mattis described him as "the living embodiment of the Marine Corps motto, Semper Fidelis."[130] He has shown restraint when asked by reporters to discuss his faith in public.[131] In a 2003 PBS interview, Mattis recalled how his Marines followed advice from his chaplain on gaining the support of Iraqi citizens: "On the suggestion of my Catholic chaplain the Marines would take chilled drinking water in bottles and walk out amongst the protesters and hand it out. It is just hard to throw a rock at somebody who has given you a cold drink of water and it’s 120 degrees outside."[130]
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I hope he stays but in the end, whatever is best for the nation, for Trump, for Mattis himself, is what I would hope for.

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Re: Trump unsure if Mattis will stay: 'He's sort of a Democrat'
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2018, 06:44:06 pm »
Trump has had the best conservative agenda in decades. All I need to know.

There can be a crossover via people like Mattis, I suppose, he is a great man.

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Re: Trump unsure if Mattis will stay: 'He's sort of a Democrat'
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2018, 06:45:20 pm »
It's not spin.  It's the reality of politics. 



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Re: Trump unsure if Mattis will stay: 'He's sort of a Democrat'
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2018, 07:05:46 pm »
I agree that Trump's choices in hiring staff have been questionable if not downright weird in some cases. But it is not because Trump is stupid, it is more that he is naive. Trump seems to think that all people behave with good intentions and he believes in the rule of law. This is a dangerous attitude in Washington D.C. as he has surely learned by now. There is no law and there is no 'real' loyalty there.

Trump was simply not expecting the overwhelming amount of treachery and betrayal he has encounter in D.C.
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Re: Trump unsure if Mattis will stay: 'He's sort of a Democrat'
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2018, 07:11:00 pm »
I agree that Trump's choices in hiring staff have been questionable if not downright weird in some cases. But it is not because Trump is stupid, it is more that he is naive. Trump seems to think that all people behave with good intentions and he believes in the rule of law. This is a dangerous attitude in Washington D.C. as he has surely learned by now. There is no law and there is no 'real' loyalty there.

Trump was simply not expecting the overwhelming amount of treachery and betrayal he has encounter in D.C.

Wait.... so..... you're admitting that Trump is naive about people?   How does that square with his decades of experience in dealing with people throughout his real estate mogul career?  (hint - it doesn't)
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Re: Trump unsure if Mattis will stay: 'He's sort of a Democrat'
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2018, 07:16:43 pm »
Well, set the stopwatch for Mattis's departure.  Once again, Trump is starting to get tired of someone.

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« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2018, 07:32:44 pm »
Wait.... so..... you're admitting that Trump is naive about people?   How does that square with his decades of experience in dealing with people throughout his real estate mogul career?  (hint - it doesn't)

Bureaucrats/Politicians and Business people are completely different animals. Business people are motivated by success and profit. Bureaucrats are motivated by status quo stagnation, and entrenched corruption for personal gain. It is two different worlds.

Trump was naive in that he assumed that everyone was working for the good of the people and the good of the country. We were all shocked at how deep the swamp was. Nobody knew how deep and tentacled the corruption nepotism in D.C., and in the media, went until Trump exposed it. Who knew?

When Trump had to deal with the mafia, at least the mafia had some sense of honor. And they were working for what was best for the organization. There is no honor in D.C. and people there are willing to work against what is in their own self interests, the interests of their family, their children, and their neighbors, and the interests of America and the American people, to achieve some political goal. This is counterintuitive.

Washington D.C. makes the mafia look like Boy Scouts.
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Re: Trump unsure if Mattis will stay: 'He's sort of a Democrat'
« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2018, 07:39:31 pm »
Bureaucrats/Politicians and Business people are completely different animals. Business people are motivated by success and profit. Bureaucrats are motivated by status quo stagnation, and entrenched corruption for personal gain. It is two different worlds.

Trump was naive in that he assumed that everyone was working for the good of the people and the good of the country. We were all shocked at how deep the swamp was. Nobody knew how deep and tentacled the corruption nepotism in D.C., and in the media, went until Trump exposed it. Who knew?

When Trump had to deal with the mafia, at least the mafia had some sense of honor. And they were working for what was best for the organization. There is no honor in D.C. and people there are willing to work against what is in their own self interests, the interests of their family, their children, and their neighbors, and the interests of America and the American people, to achieve some political goal. This is counterintuitive.

Washington D.C. makes the mafia look like Boy Scouts.

Well... anybody that's been paying attention to the Clintons, Obama and other notorious Democrats knew.  I knew how bad and corrupt they were... because I had been observing and researching them for years before they reached their political stride.  It's all there for anyone curious enough to look.

So I damned sure knew.   That Trump supposedly didn't know would be stunning... considering how brilliant his supporters claim him to be (hiring only the best, and all).

Nah.  I think he knew all along... but didn't care.  And that's even worse, IMO.
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Re: Trump unsure if Mattis will stay: 'He's sort of a Democrat'
« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2018, 07:58:25 pm »
Bureaucrats/Politicians and Business people are completely different animals. Business people are motivated by success and profit. Bureaucrats are motivated by status quo stagnation, and entrenched corruption for personal gain. It is two different worlds.

Trump was naive in that he assumed that everyone was working for the good of the people and the good of the country. We were all shocked at how deep the swamp was. Nobody knew how deep and tentacled the corruption nepotism in D.C., and in the media, went until Trump exposed it. Who knew?

When Trump had to deal with the mafia, at least the mafia had some sense of honor. And they were working for what was best for the organization. There is no honor in D.C. and people there are willing to work against what is in their own self interests, the interests of their family, their children, and their neighbors, and the interests of America and the American people, to achieve some political goal. This is counterintuitive.

Washington D.C. makes the mafia look like Boy Scouts.

Wow, trying to spin Trump is hard work.  LOL.

Fact is that Trump has experience with both.  I don't find much difference between mafia and Washington DC.  Trump has worked both.  He said he was an outsider?  Not.  He worked the Democratic party for his benefit. 

When speaking of swamp he hires the weirdest people.  Like Amarosa.  Fully liberal woman who had worked for the Clintons.  Come on.
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« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2018, 08:09:32 pm »
When speaking of swamp he hires the weirdest people.  Like Amarosa.  Fully liberal woman who had worked for the Clintons.  Come on.

So he knew that Omarosa was going to commit espionage and bug his conversations? He knew that she would go on a nationwide hate-Trump campaign to promote her hate-Trump book? He knew all that was going to happen and hired her anyway?

You are making my point for me! Who could expect that consideration and giving someone the benefit of the doubt would be repaid with espionage, treachery, and hate? That is exactly what I am talking about.

That kind of betrayal and treachery is what he has had to face his entire time in office from so many people. Rosenstein wanted to set him up and wear a wire. What normal person could 'expect' that kind of behavior? No. What Trump has had to deal with is way far beyond what any normal person would expect of people which he has shown kindness to.
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