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Those idiots that are saying there is no "innocent until proven guilty" in this case are just trying to justify their demonization and destruction of Kav's reputation, life and family.   There IS no damned justification.

I feel the same way when I hear otherwise intelligent people suggest we use quotas to make the SCOTUS "look like America."  That's the soft bigotry GWB referred to in a speech.
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I was one that cringed when Brett got so angry he turned the question back to the woman Democrat.  Being a person who has lived with someone who battled Alcoholism basic traits are easy to spot.  Addiction is a dirty secret for millions of people.  An alcoholic is never honest about how much and they don't want to be called on whether they were doing it.  Being honest I have to say his reactions triggered questions in my mind.   Unfortunately nobody can change what people saw.  Many drinkers do get sexually forceful when drunk.  It was a critical line of questioning where he should have kept his cool.  Democrats knew exactly what they were doing.  The Democratic woman knew because as she stated her Father was an alcoholic. I think its unfortunate at that point of the hearing he lost it.  People cannot change their own life experiences.  Lindsey Graham is off on this.  Nobody is going to dictate what people saw in the testimony because we are all separate human beings with our own life experiences.

However I do not worry about this because he has been through several FBI investigations and there were no problems found obviously.  If Kavanaugh was still a heavy drinker (an alcoholic) I am sure it would have come out.  I would have to be honest and say if he was an alcoholic I would question whether he was the right person for the job.

Trumps own brother was an alcoholic. 

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/26/trump-brother-fred-alcoholic-244213

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It wasn’t the optimal response, but I give him a pass.  After everything else he’s been through, he’d just given that incredible address.  He knew his wife and his mother were nearby, both upset.  The man was emotionally wrung out. He’s human.

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I feel the same way when I hear otherwise intelligent people suggest we use quotas to make the SCOTUS "look like America."  That's the soft bigotry GWB referred to in a speech.

An idiotic suggestion by ANY standards of logic, reason and/or intelligence.  What someone "looks like" should have NO bearing whatsoever.  Yet.... as much as the idiot left screeches about equality... it always boils down to someone's skin color and race vs. qualifications re: who they want in positions of power.  Except when it comes to people like Clarence Thomas and Condi Rice, which clearly shows they only really care about someone's political stance (better dead if not red is their commie meme).  And I guarantee you that... should a black conservative ever run for president, they will be just as ... if not even more.... vicious in their opposition to that candidate as they have been with Trump.
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So now that they know they've got nothing on him, this is how they are going to attack.   Even Flake has mentioned this now.


These people are disgusting and so is anyone who has an issue with Kavanaugh's response to an attempted coup to destroy him and his family.  God I hope none of you are ever in his shoes.

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So now that they know they've got nothing on him, this is how they are going to attack.   Even Flake has mentioned this now.


These people are disgusting and so is anyone who has an issue with Kavanaugh's response to an attempted coup to destroy him and his family.  God I hope none of you are ever in his shoes.

It's called righteous indignation.... and it's typical of the left to use that against someone they oppose...

after their unfounded attacks have induced that reaction.   It's their standard game play, IOW.
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An idiotic suggestion by ANY standards of logic, reason and/or intelligence.  What someone "looks like" should have NO bearing whatsoever.  Yet.... as much as the idiot left screeches about equality... it always boils down to someone's skin color and race vs. qualifications re: who they want in positions of power.  Except when it comes to people like Clarence Thomas and Condi Rice, which clearly shows they only really care about someone's political stance (better dead if not red is their commie meme).  And I guarantee you that... should a black conservative ever run for president, they will be just as ... if not even more.... vicious in their opposition to that candidate as they have been with Trump.

In @TomSea'ss defense, he wasn't writing about race.
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It's called righteous indignation.... and it's typical of the left to use that against someone they oppose...

after their unfounded attacks have induced that reaction.   It's their standard game play, IOW.

Makes me want to puke.

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In @TomSea'ss defense, he wasn't writing about race.

I was referring to the idiot left in America.  Collectively.
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I was referring to the idiot left in America.  Collectively.

You get no argument from me there..... :beer:
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So now that they know they've got nothing on him, this is how they are going to attack.   Even Flake has mentioned this now.


These people are disgusting and so is anyone who has an issue with Kavanaugh's response to an attempted coup to destroy him and his family.  God I hope none of you are ever in his shoes.

An Attempted Coup.  Stop.  Exactly.  There is one going on to take down this president and his administration.  Kavanaugh sitting on the SCOTUS would not be helpful to their 'cause'.
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Tom Cotton said the lawyers for Dr. Ford will be investigated by the DC Bar.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/30/cotton-feinstein-ford-leaked-letter-854019

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Tom Cotton said the lawyers for Dr. Ford will be investigated by the DC Bar.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/30/cotton-feinstein-ford-leaked-letter-854019

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Great find!  Polutico, no less.  Cotton wants Feinswine and the dirty lawyers in the dock for this.
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People who answer questions with questions bug me.  It's my own personal cue for deception.  I thought that was the low point in his whole testimony.   :shrug:

And that exactly is the issue, and yes it was.  I will say if my younger days were scrutinized in front of the public I can't say I would hold up either.  So yes the entire thing was wrong and unfair.  They should have never put him on display like that.  What you did when you were a teenager does not make the man or woman you are today.  It is very unfair that he was put in a position that he could be judged for what he did as a teenager. 

What it really comes down to is not whether he got drunk as a young man, but did he force himself on her.  If they cannot prove that then he is innocent and they should confirm him.

And I think Lindsey Graham should shut up at this point.  He is looking like an idiot.

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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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@Chosen Daughter

It wasn’t the optimal response, but I give him a pass.  After everything else he’s been through, he’d just given that incredible address.  He knew his wife and his mother were nearby, both upset.  The man was emotionally wrung out. He’s human.

I also can and will give him a pass.  I got drunk when I was young too.  I was just stating the truth of the matter that the answer would trigger emotions in people who understand alcoholism because that is the way people with alcohol addictions react to questioning.  It is what it is.  Just unfortunate that people saw it and they will go away with their own interpretation of the moment.

Just saying as much as Lindsey Graham screams about people's reaction it is not going to change.  It really was a trial without a jury selection.  The jury is the entire population of this country.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Tom Cotton said the lawyers for Dr. Ford will be investigated by the DC Bar.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/30/cotton-feinstein-ford-leaked-letter-854019

That should be interesting. 

Either the lawyers did not inform their client of the offer and Kavanaugh's contention of a concerted left-wing smear campaign gains credence, or Ford perjured herself under oath and we all know what Seen Blumenthal says about 'false in one thing...'
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That should be interesting. 

Either the lawyers did not inform their client of the offer and Kavanaugh's contention of a concerted left-wing smear campaign gains credence, or Ford perjured herself under oath and we all know what Seen Blumenthal says about 'false in one thing...'

I hope both of those slime balls get disbarred!
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I can trump that (pardon pun).   The "Lion of the Senate" was a KNOWN alcoholic that killed a woman, left her to drown and die in his car, and got away with it scott frickin free....all because he was a damned DemocRat.  This is all BS politics, the usual treatment from the rats... and anyone that either excuses what they're doing or goes along with it is one of them, in my logic book.

Of course I agree it is BS politics and I have said I don't find the woman credible at all.  And of course this is hypocrisy at its finest.  No denying that.

I am absolutely not,...........not making excuses for what they have done.  But I won't pretend that this hearing was the right way to handle the situation.  It was wrong, and it did form opinions that will be unfair.  A public trial of Judge Kavanaugh as a teenager.

AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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I hope both of those slime balls get disbarred!

I'll drink to that.
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« Last Edit: September 30, 2018, 09:10:53 pm by Chosen Daughter »
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Of course I agree it is BS politics and I have said I don't find the woman credible at all.  And of course this is hypocrisy at its finest.  No denying that.

I am absolutely not,...........not making excuses for what they have done.  But I won't pretend that this hearing was the right way to handle the situation.  It was wrong, and it did form opinions that will be unfair.  A public trial of Judge Kavanaugh as a teenager.
 

I agree.  But the hearing was what was demanded by the rats.   And as you know... they seem to always get their way, minority status or not.  Bottom line, the deep state is far deeper and embedded than any of us can imagine.  That is becoming more and more clear daily.

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Don't forget Barney Fwwank and his sexcapades.  Or Anthony Wiener.

But.... but.... but..... that's diffewent!

Cuz.... they don't claim to be or pretend to be conservatives with values.  (/sarc)
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I agree.  But the hearing was what was demanded by the rats.   And as you know... they seem to always get their way, minority status or not.  Bottom line, the deep state is far deeper and embedded than any of us can imagine.  That is becoming more and more clear daily.

And the Republicans let them.  They did it with the spending bill too.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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But.... but.... but..... that's diffewent!

Cuz.... they don't claim to be or pretend to be conservatives with values.  (/sarc)


Enter exemption Nancy Pelosi and her divine intervention prayers.  Probably all of them would try to pull out God when they think they can use him.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.