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Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Judicial Hearing
« Reply #1375 on: September 28, 2018, 05:06:26 pm »
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Yep, and of course they always get what they want.  There's way too much time between now and Tuesday. I might have to drink.

Lol!   I'm sticking to my guns and waiting to break open some Korbel I have (burning a hole in my fridge).... for when Kavanaugh gets confirmed.

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Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Judicial Hearing
« Reply #1376 on: September 28, 2018, 05:06:56 pm »
If Flake supports Kavanaugh then it is proof that he intends to run for office again in some capacity. If he did not intend to run again for something, there would be no reason for him to betray his Democrat friends, colleagues, and family, since he is retiring from the Senate anyway.

But, he could be doing a McCain tactic. McCain was famous for telling Republicans that he was going to vote with them only to stick the knife in the back at the last minute. He seemed to actually enjoy doing this. Maybe Flake is following his mentor's example and never planned to vote for Kavanaugh.

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Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Judicial Hearing
« Reply #1377 on: September 28, 2018, 05:08:40 pm »

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Let's be absolutely clear here: the Democratic attacks would have been just as visceral and brutal and the outrage just as high against Amy Coney Barrett, just from a different angle.
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Judicial Hearing
« Reply #1378 on: September 28, 2018, 05:09:14 pm »
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😂😂 @ChrisCoons crys when Jeff Flake announces he will vote for Kavanaugh.

Absolutely pathetic.

What kind of man does that over fake charges?

It isn't the charges he's crying over.  He doesn't give one hoot in hell about that.  He's crying because he knows their time is up!
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Judicial Hearing
« Reply #1379 on: September 28, 2018, 05:09:54 pm »
If Flake supports Kavanaugh then it is proof that he intends to run for office again in some capacity. If he did not intend to run again for something, there would be no reason for him to betray his Democrat friends, colleagues, and family, since he is retiring from the Senate anyway.

But, he could be doing a McCain tactic. McCain was famous for telling Republicans that he was going to vote with them only to stick the knife in the back at the last minute. He seemed to actually enjoy doing this. Maybe Flake is following his mentor's example and never planned to vote for Kavanaugh.

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No, I think Flake is just doing the right thing, he comes what has historically been a very red state, Sen. Lindsay Graham too, certainly made an emotional appeal to Flake, Lindsay being McCain's cohort.

Also, there has to be some cooperation some time, some reaching across the aisles, even Barry Goldwater said that.....yes, we want a Conservative agenda, if I can find some picture of Tip O'Neill and Reagan together, it doesn't mean Reagan betrayed conservative values.



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Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Judicial Hearing
« Reply #1380 on: September 28, 2018, 05:10:41 pm »
all the Repub chairs are empty...I have a bad feeling about this..if Flake flips it will be Grassley's fault for delaying the vote this morning....
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« Reply #1381 on: September 28, 2018, 05:11:20 pm »
A Republican giving in over this where I think transparently, the Democrats appear so malicious would really be treason so to speak.

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« Reply #1382 on: September 28, 2018, 05:12:31 pm »

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Senator Cory Booker, who himself bragged about sexually assaulting girl in high school, slams Republicans for voting for SCOTUS nominee Brett Kavanaugh amid discredited allegations
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Judicial Hearing
« Reply #1383 on: September 28, 2018, 05:13:20 pm »
all the Repub chairs are empty...I have a bad feeling about this..if Flake flips it will be Grassley's fault for delaying the vote this morning....

Yep.   And I keep asking....

why would Grassley do that?

Empty seats could mean no vote, btw.

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A committee cannot vote without a quorum... present. In the case of a vanishing quorum, the meeting ends.

OTOH, the Judiciary committee has its own collection of rules they would have put in place over the years... which may or may not alter vanishing quorum situations.
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Judicial Hearing
« Reply #1384 on: September 28, 2018, 05:14:23 pm »

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This is not difficult to understand. Lying to Congressional investigators and lying to the FBI agents carries the same penalty. Both felonies. The calls for an FBI investigation are a farce. The people Dems want pursued have submitted sworn statements under this penalty.
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Judicial Hearing
« Reply #1385 on: September 28, 2018, 05:15:27 pm »
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This is not difficult to understand. Lying to Congressional investigators and lying to the FBI agents carries the same penalty. Both felonies. The calls for an FBI investigation are a farce. The people Dems want pursued have submitted sworn statements under this penalty.

That is absolutely correct!
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Judicial Hearing
« Reply #1386 on: September 28, 2018, 05:16:12 pm »
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Let's be absolutely clear here: the Democratic attacks would have been just as visceral and brutal and the outrage just as high against Amy Coney Barrett, just from a different angle.

If a seat currently held by a women becomes vacant Amy will get her chance (I hope).

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Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Judicial Hearing
« Reply #1387 on: September 28, 2018, 05:16:52 pm »

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Blumenthal, who lied about serving in Vietnam, is shaming Kavanaugh for being righteously angry at being smeared with unsubstantiated assault and gang rape allegations. You don’t get to smear people, ruin their lives, and then deny them their anger, Senator.
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« Reply #1388 on: September 28, 2018, 05:17:04 pm »
Well... if Grassley had held the vote at 9:30 am.... like they were supposed to do....

none of this would be an issue right now.   My question is.... why?  Why is Grassley doing this (allowing it)?

I think Grassley is cut from the same cloth as Sessions.  They are old-timey politicians, from a time where there was still a lot of knives in the back and throat cutting, but it was done politely and behind the scenes.  They have a really hard time publicly confronting their opponents.  And, Grassley actually did much better throughout this whole process than I would have expected.

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Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Judicial Hearing
« Reply #1389 on: September 28, 2018, 05:18:42 pm »
all the Repub chairs are empty...I have a bad feeling about this..if Flake flips it will be Grassley's fault for delaying the vote this morning....

Looks like they're taking a break before the vote to me.
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Judicial Hearing
« Reply #1390 on: September 28, 2018, 05:20:20 pm »
Looks like they're taking a break before the vote to me.

The GOP guys are back and the conversations are buzzing.  I bet Flake flipped and they know it's not going to fly. 
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Judicial Hearing
« Reply #1391 on: September 28, 2018, 05:21:31 pm »
I think Grassley is cut from the same cloth as Sessions.  They are old-timey politicians, from a time where there was still a lot of knives in the back and throat cutting, but it was done politely and behind the scenes.  They have a really hard time publicly confronting their opponents.  And, Grassley actually did much better throughout this whole process than I would have expected.

I think Grassley broke the #1 rule.   Never ever underestimate your opponents.
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Judicial Hearing
« Reply #1392 on: September 28, 2018, 05:22:27 pm »
I doubt Flake  flipped. The vote happens at 1:30 pm.

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« Reply #1393 on: September 28, 2018, 05:23:39 pm »
Pray Flake contains his antipathy towards Trump long enough to do the right thing.

GWB's been calling and talking with "moderates" to convince them to vote for Kavanaugh.  One of those who got a call from GWB was Flake.

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Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Judicial Hearing
« Reply #1394 on: September 28, 2018, 05:24:13 pm »
I doubt Flake  flipped. The vote happens at 1:30 pm.

Well.... they're not having fevered conversations about the weather.  So....
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Judicial Hearing
« Reply #1395 on: September 28, 2018, 05:25:41 pm »
GWB's been calling and talking with "moderates" to convince them to vote for Kavanaugh.  One of those who got a call from GWB was Flake.

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I wonder how the hearings are polling with the public right now. This will probably tell the tale.
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« Reply #1396 on: September 28, 2018, 05:26:22 pm »
Flake's having a tough time ...

Watch sexual assault survivors corner Sen. Jeff Flake over Kavanaugh vote

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article219172745.html

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Re: LIVE THREAD>>>Judicial Hearing
« Reply #1397 on: September 28, 2018, 05:27:01 pm »
Well.... they're not having fevered conversations about the weather.  So....

The one to worry about is Collins.

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« Reply #1398 on: September 28, 2018, 05:27:49 pm »
How long should it take to finalize the vote?

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« Reply #1399 on: September 28, 2018, 05:28:14 pm »
Flake's having a tough time ...

Watch sexual assault survivors corner Sen. Jeff Flake over Kavanaugh vote

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article219172745.html

we'll find out in 3 minutes.