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It’s Time to Give Up on Them – The Anti-Trumpers
« on: September 02, 2018, 08:42:44 pm »
https://townhall.com/columnists/brucebialosky/2018/09/02/its-time-to-give-up-on-them--the-antitrumpers-n2514433

It’s Time to Give Up on Them – The Anti-Trumpers
September 2, 2018
Bruce Bialosky

I am sure you have tried just like I have. Every time you make a point based on facts it does not matter – you are shot down. It does not matter what good is being done or who has benefited. You will never convince them there is redemption. He could cure cancer, create world peace or jump into a fire and save a relative of theirs; but, still no salvation. There will be no acceptance and no atonement. He is a lost cause and convincing them otherwise is like nailing jello to a tree.

This was recently displayed again when I was meeting with a friend. I received an alert stating that the United States had again been ranked No. 1 on the Competitive Index according to the International Institute for Management Development in Switzerland. We had slipped from that spot in 2016 and were slotted in at No. 4 in 2017. This is a ranking of competitiveness on the global business stage. One would think that any American would be happy about this development since it means our country is doing better in the world compared to other economies, and that means more Americans would be employed and thus self-sufficient. My thought is the bastion of freedom and capitalism, America, should always be No. 1.

Even though I never mentioned President Trump, my friend leapt at the opportunity to attack Trump stating (and I paraphrase) that there was no redemption for Trump in his eyes. I then commented as I always do that it is about the policies for me.

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Re: It’s Time to Give Up on Them – The Anti-Trumpers
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2018, 08:49:00 pm »
Mr. Bialosky:
"I feel sorry for them. It is obvious they will never be converted on this matter. If you bring up a political point with them that has nothing to do with Trump, they reflexively attack Trump for something non-germane to the topic. There are other matters in this country of concern other than our president, but they don’t accept that."

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Re: It’s Time to Give Up on Them – The Anti-Trumpers
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2018, 08:53:30 pm »
Mr. Bialosky:
"I feel sorry for them. It is obvious they will never be converted on this matter. If you bring up a political point with them that has nothing to do with Trump, they reflexively attack Trump for something non-germane to the topic. There are other matters in this country of concern other than our president, but they don’t accept that."

There's the guy
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Had to put him on ignore
Couldn't take it any more.


@Fishrrman so what productive purpose did you hope to accomplish with this AND with your first comment?  Inquiring minds want to know...
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Re: It’s Time to Give Up on Them – The Anti-Trumpers
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2018, 09:00:47 pm »


            I approve this Thread


   Besides it's been over a week or moore since we had a good AT/NT fight.
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Re: It’s Time to Give Up on Them – The Anti-Trumpers
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2018, 10:23:00 pm »
This article gives no indication if his foil is a NT from the right or from the left.  It leaves me kind of empty not knowing, because it appears to sweep both groups into the same dustbin.  I don't have a lot of patience for that POV. 
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Re: It’s Time to Give Up on Them – The Anti-Trumpers
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2018, 10:57:46 pm »


            I approve this Thread


   Besides it's been over a week or moore since we had a good AT/NT fight.

Those things look like two bags of walnuts in a gunny sack.
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Re: It’s Time to Give Up on Them – The Anti-Trumpers
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2018, 11:06:55 pm »
   I can't afford them, these are a cheap alternative, though.

No government in the 12,000 years of modern mankind history has led its people into anything but the history books with a simple lesson, don't let this happen to you.

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Re: It’s Time to Give Up on Them – The Anti-Trumpers
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2018, 12:01:26 am »
https://townhall.com/columnists/brucebialosky/2018/09/02/its-time-to-give-up-on-them--the-antitrumpers-n2514433

It’s Time to Give Up on Them – The Anti-Trumpers
September 2, 2018
Bruce Bialosky

I am sure you have tried just like I have. Every time you make a point based on facts it does not matter – you are shot down. It does not matter what good is being done or who has benefited. You will never convince them there is redemption. He could cure cancer, create world peace or jump into a fire and save a relative of theirs; but, still no salvation. There will be no acceptance and no atonement. He is a lost cause and convincing them otherwise is like nailing jello to a tree.

This was recently displayed again when I was meeting with a friend. I received an alert stating that the United States had again been ranked No. 1 on the Competitive Index according to the International Institute for Management Development in Switzerland. We had slipped from that spot in 2016 and were slotted in at No. 4 in 2017. This is a ranking of competitiveness on the global business stage. One would think that any American would be happy about this development since it means our country is doing better in the world compared to other economies, and that means more Americans would be employed and thus self-sufficient. My thought is the bastion of freedom and capitalism, America, should always be No. 1.

Even though I never mentioned President Trump, my friend leapt at the opportunity to attack Trump stating (and I paraphrase) that there was no redemption for Trump in his eyes. I then commented as I always do that it is about the policies for me.

More at URL above...


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Re: It’s Time to Give Up on Them – The Anti-Trumpers
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2018, 12:12:05 am »
The ATs "gave up" on the NTs about two years ago.

And they haven't shut up about it since.
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Re: It’s Time to Give Up on Them – The Anti-Trumpers
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2018, 12:19:23 am »
The ATs "gave up" on the NTs about two years ago.

And they haven't shut up about it since.

Rubbing people’s faces in it is probably in The Art of the Deal  :shrug:
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Re: It’s Time to Give Up on Them – The Anti-Trumpers
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2018, 12:29:25 am »
I’m still waiting for the OP to offer his insight into why he wanted to tweak these particular noses...why does TBR need ANOTHER bitch fest?
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Re: It’s Time to Give Up on Them – The Anti-Trumpers
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2018, 12:36:05 am »
You give up on them by refusing to seriously engage them.

This article is an attempt to seriously engage them.

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Re: It’s Time to Give Up on Them – The Anti-Trumpers
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2018, 12:41:51 am »
You give up on them by refusing to seriously engage them.

This article is an attempt to seriously engage them.

I gave up on liberals years ago.  Sometimes it seems like having to fight the same old wars again, but with a different set of opponents, hoping they'll be different.

Really, I'm getting tired of it.
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Re: It’s Time to Give Up on Them – The Anti-Trumpers
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2018, 12:49:42 am »
I gave up on liberals years ago.  Sometimes it seems like having to fight the same old wars again, but with a different set of opponents, hoping they'll be different.

Really, I'm getting tired of it.

Me too. I think by now we all know where each other stand.

But I guess some people never get tired of trolling.

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Re: It’s Time to Give Up on Them – The Anti-Trumpers
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2018, 12:51:20 am »
You give up on them by refusing to seriously engage them.

This article is an attempt to seriously engage them.

Around here?
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« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2018, 12:53:32 am »
Around here?
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Re: It’s Time to Give Up on Them – The Anti-Trumpers
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2018, 12:56:27 am »
   I can't afford them, these are a cheap alternative, though.



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Re: It’s Time to Give Up on Them – The Anti-Trumpers
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2018, 01:05:59 am »
I gave up on liberals years ago.  Sometimes it seems like having to fight the same old wars again, but with a different set of opponents, hoping they'll be different.

Really, I'm getting tired of it.


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« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2018, 01:15:19 am »
No government in the 12,000 years of modern mankind history has led its people into anything but the history books with a simple lesson, don't let this happen to you.

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Re: It’s Time to Give Up on Them – The Anti-Trumpers
« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2018, 01:54:33 am »
@Fishrrman so what productive purpose did you hope to accomplish with this AND with your first comment? 

He wanted me to take the bait and start another tit-for-tat fight.

No point. 

IHTINB already nailed the entire situation for what it is:

The ATs "gave up" on the NTs about two years ago.

And they haven't shut up about it since.
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Re: It’s Time to Give Up on Them – The Anti-Trumpers
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2018, 02:05:25 am »
He wanted me to take the bait and start another tit-for-tat fight.

No point. 

IHTINB already nailed the entire situation for what it is:

After that they hit ignore on anybody who calls out their hypocrisy. #LegalAmerican
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