Trump declares 'market would crash' if Democrats impeached him (FOX)

[XenaLee]

   IMHO @XenaLee  very, very few Briefers want Trump Impeached it damages the GOP brand even more.   BUT most of us predicted this Carnival and knew it would distract from getting real $hit accomplished.   
   Is it possible that a Cruz Administration would have had 5 people under Federal Indictment at this point, it's possible but highly improbable.

You must know that even now, I'm a Cruz supporter.   BUT... I see now that Cruz did not and still does not have the dynamics (charisma) needed to have won the last election... even considering the dismal creature the rats put up.   Cruz is a good man, but a lackluster campaigner.  Sadly, I have accepted that reality.

That said.... we went through a similar "carnival"... if you will recall... during the entire eight years of GWB, starting with the carnival election recount fiasco, encompassing the "Bush's fault" BS for the duration, and culminating in the rats finally succeeding in tanking the economy after talking it down for seven frigging years.   That "carnival" damaged our nation too... since it got us Barack Hussein Obama.   But that damage is nothing compared to what will occur if the rats succeed in their endeavors to bring down Trump's presidency.  Even not being a fan of Trump's.... I recognize the kind of destruction that will befall us if the left succeeds.  And nobody 'except the rabid left' should be ok with that or for it.   Just sayin....

[roamer_1]

Trump would be wise just to shut up at this point.

He has the right... but he doesn't have the ability.

[XenaLee]

You can stop pointing at everyone else and shouting 'he did it too'...
He did this all by himself.

And you can stop pointing and pretending that Trump's infidelities are what you really care about re: issues.  You want him out of office.  I get that.  But the resultant damage to the nation will not be worth it.  Not by a long shot and not even to you.

[mirraflake]

Honestly... I can't wrap my brain around how some of you (here)... that are supposedly NOT leftists... are so seemingly hopeful that the left will succeed in 'bringing him down'.   Do you not know or see that bringing him down will also bring the economy down and subsequently, damage ALL of our lives in the process...?  Hell, it could even kick off the next civil war.  And you're ok with that???  [shaking head]

Amen. If Trump get's impeached the economy will collapse and this will result in huge strife among red and blue.. Maybe not civil war but major strife. Murders,  violent attacks, bombings. We are already at a boiling point. I saw it on FB this morning between two lifelong friends who threatened each other never to set foot on the others property  It's getting bad as is.

@XenaLee

[roamer_1]

And you can stop pointing and pretending that Trump's infidelities are what you really care about re: issues.  You want him out of office.  I get that.  But the resultant damage to the nation will not be worth it.  Not by a long shot and not even to you.

Again, I am on the record preferring he not be impeached.
And Tump's infidelities (not limited to sexual escapades) are PRECISELY what I care about.
And that not for the reasons you might assume, but rather, because it makes him indefensible, as I have said all along.

[mirraflake]

Honestly... I can't wrap my brain around how some of you (here)... that are supposedly NOT leftists... are so seemingly hopeful that the left will succeed in 'bringing him down'. 

How do we know they are not leftist masquerading as conservatives? Conservatives do it  on DU all the time.
@XenaLee

[RetBobbyMI]

More important, the Dems could care less if the market crashed. After all it is just crumbs in the people’s retirement nest egg.

[XenaLee]

Amen. If Trump get's impeached the economy will collapse and this will result in huge strife among red and blue.. Maybe not civil war but major strife. Murders,  violent attacks, bombings. We are already at a boiling point. I saw it on FB this morning between two lifelong friends who threatened each other never to set foot on the others property  It's getting bad as is.

@XenaLee

I think the left vastly underestimates the level of anger (at them) that those of us on the right have and have had for decades.  Boiling point, indeed.   And what happens when it boils over?   I don't see a long-predicted 2nd civil war as being unrealistic.   We already know what they want to do re: open borders/illegal immigration.   We know what they want to do re: gun confiscation.  And as far as 1st Amendment stuff... they already ARE doing what they want to do to ALL of us eventually.... ie silencing and censoring conservative viewpoints and opinions and communications.   No, another civil war may end up being our 'only' option for preserving our future freedoms.

[roamer_1]

Certainly not for anything regarding Cohen's issue. I don't think that rises to a Constitutional high crime (see the link I out in my post way up thread). He is, however, walking a very fine line on many of his actions in regards to tariffs and treaties where he hasn't gone back to Congress as required by law and the Constitution. That falls much in line with what Andrew Johnson was impeached for- establishing a central bank without going to Congress. In both cases, they are Article 1, section 8, clause 1 violations.

I don't think Congress will touch that though. They don't want to take back responsibility for whatever becomes of that.

We don't know the bottom of the Cohen issue. He has been Tump's fixer for years... I guarantee he knows where the bodies are buried (figuratively speaking). What matters there s the song he is singing, and how many verses are in that song...

[XenaLee]

How do we know they are not leftist masquerading as conservatives? Conservatives do it  on DU all the time.
@XenaLee

Leftists do it in Congress all the time (RINOs).

[guitar4jesus]

You're rooting for the end of this Republic.

You people have been using this type of hyperbole since the primary.     That's part of the reason this buffoon got into office in the first place.
This republic is built on the Constitution and survived Wilson, FDR, Johnson, Carter, Clinton and Obama.  This type of hyperbole is exactly what landed us in this mess.

Why would you think you have the ability to do anything to save the republic when it's survived so well without you.



Snap out of it!  Your're embarrassing yourself even more than usual.

[Night Hides Not]

Dear God, man, give it a rest.  Or at least pace yourself.  You're rooting for the end of this Republic.

There is no way even you can believe all those first time voters for Donald Trump and the majority of long time voters for Donald Trump will rally in sufficient numbers to overcome the generations' long blue tidal wave awaiting us.  And I don't give a damn what your wet dream fantasies tell you.  Truth is truth. 

And if you say it makes no difference what happens now and in future elections you are either intellectually or truth challenged.

If you are so desperate to punish the President, if you want so badly to poke me in the eye with a flaming sword, fine.  But find another way.

 

The Republic will end with the fall of Donald Trump?  Holey moley, that's hilarious.

 

 

[Night Hides Not]

Your defense of this buffoon has become close to satirical.  Keep it up.  We need some comedy in these tough times.

Someone has to make up for the banishment of Legal American, might as well be @Right_in_Virginia .

 

[INVAR]

So the left got Cohen to flip.   That does not mean that they have an impeachable excuse to nail Trump on.   

Perception is reality in politics.  You know that.

That they had nothing up until yesterday was self-evident.  That Cohen 'flipped' has given the Left more than they hoped for in terms of creating the perception being reality that Trump was engaged in criminal activity.

For me - all it did is confirm that Trump is a bold-faced liar because he vehemently denied any payments before he said he knew nothing about them.

Sure it may not be criminal, it may not be a high crime or a misdemeanor - but Trump lied boldfaced to us about it - which should make us wonder what else he is lying about.

Sorry but I'm not going to defend someone who has made himself indefensible.

The point is.... the left is posing a threat to this nation via their attempts to overturn the last election.   That should be a troubling fact for even you, INVAR.  Even those that detest Trump should be against this crap that's going on.

We all know this would have happened regardless which Republican may have won the election.  We have been undergoing a velvet coup in earnest since at least Clinton.

This is for all the marbles and some of us knew that long before Trump ever announced his run.

Honestly... I can't wrap my brain around how some of you (here)... that are supposedly NOT leftists... are so seemingly hopeful that the left will succeed in 'bringing him down'.

We're not 'hopeful' about what appears now to be inevitable.  Trump is his own worst enemy, and his fanbase is not far behind.

Do you not know or see that bringing him down will also bring the economy down and subsequently, damage ALL of our lives in the process...?  Hell, it could even kick off the next civil war.  And you're ok with that???  [shaking head]

That's just the opposite spectrum that says that Trump is going to save the country.  Our salvation or annihilation does not rest on Trump's shoulders.  That said, I think the die for what we are about to go through was cast some time ago and the people have become indifferent to it because they discarded the foundations and the things the uphold liberty are now said to be losers that no longer win elections.

The Rubicon has been crossed some time ago.

[skeeter]

You people have been using this type of hyperbole since the primary.     That's part of the reason this buffoon got into office in the first place.
This republic is built on the constitution and survived Wilson, FDR, Johnson, Carter, Clinton and Obama.  This type of hyperbole is exactly what landed us in this mess.

Why would you think you have the ability to do anything to save the republic when it's survived so well without you.

Snap out of it!  Your're embarrassing yourself even more than usual.

Would it improve your opinion of Trump supporters if you were to learn that many of us, deluded as we may be, actually believe this 'hyperbole'?

For one, I plead guilty above described derangement. I fervently believe the republic in its intended form will not survive another 8 year Obama or Hillary, or Sanders, or Warren administration. Not with the new electorate replacement strategy being employed by the left.

The current administration, whatever you think of it, is the only governmental body in their way. Why else would they be struggling so mightily to get rid of it?

[catfish1957]

Someone has to make up for the banishment of Legal American, might as well be @Right_in_Virginia .

 

Legal American got banned?  Hope the wait for the Freeper Mothership wasn't long.

[XenaLee]

Perception is reality in politics.  You know that.

That they had nothing up until yesterday was self-evident.  That Cohen 'flipped' has given the Left more than they hoped for in terms of creating the perception being reality that Trump was engaged in criminal activity.

For me - all it did is confirm that Trump is a bold-faced liar because he vehemently denied any payments before he said he knew nothing about them.

Sure it may not be criminal, it may not be a high crime or a misdemeanor - but Trump lied boldfaced to us about it - which should make us wonder what else he is lying about.

Sorry but I'm not going to defend someone who has made himself indefensible.

We all know this would have happened regardless which Republican may have won the election.  We have been undergoing a velvet coup in earnest since at least Clinton.

This is for all the marbles and some of us knew that long before Trump ever announced his run.

We're not 'hopeful' about what appears now to be inevitable.  Trump is his own worst enemy, and his fanbase is not far behind.

That's just the opposite spectrum that says that Trump is going to save the country.  Our salvation or annihilation does not rest on Trump's shoulders.  That said, I think the die for what we are about to go through was cast some time ago and the people have become indifferent to it because they discarded the foundations and the things the uphold liberty are now said to be losers that no longer win elections.

The Rubicon has been crossed some time ago.

Sigh.   Thanks a lot, INVAR.   After that.... I now need a drink (or three).  And it's not even noon yet!   

[XenaLee]

Would it improve your opinion of Trump supporters if you were to learn that many of us, deluded as we may be, actually believe this 'hyperbole'?

For one, I plead guilty above described derangement. I fervently believe the republic in its intended form will not survive another 8 year Obama or Hillary, or Sanders, or Warren administration. Not with the new electorate replacement strategy being employed by the left.

The current administration, whatever you think of it, is the only governmental body in their way. Why else would they be struggling so mightily to get rid of it?

Exactly!

[guitar4jesus]

Would it improve your opinion of Trump supporters if you were to learn that many of us, deluded as we may be, actually believe this 'hyperbole'?

For one, I plead guilty above described derangement. I fervently believe the republic in its intended form will not survive another 8 year Obama or Hillary, or Sanders, or Warren administration. Not with the new electorate replacement strategy being employed by the left.

The current administration, whatever you think of it, is the only governmental body in their way. Why else would they be struggling so mightily to get rid of it?

In my opinion that is neither healthy nor rational thought, but it's just my opinion. 

The Constitution and its balance of powers is what has saved this nation.  There have been many times in the past that this very kind of hyperbolic thinking became popular but thanks to the Constitution the perceived threat was never realized.  I used to think like that myself, but then I saw our country survive 8 years of Obama.  That is when I realized that the system itself is designed to prevent these types of crises from occurring.

Once I heard Trump's rhetoric, alarm bells went off.  I could see that he is a despot intent of seizing as much power as he can through the use of rhetorical manipulation of crowds. It was obvious to me but I grew up in NY state and was well acquainted with him and his history.  I knew he was racist, regardless of what he says.  I knew he was a mobster, regardless of what he says.  I knew he was a liar, because of what he says.  I spent as much time on here as I could during the primary trying to warn people but to no avail.

We are in this mess now but I know eventually the Constitution will rectify it.  That's where I'm putting my trust.

[guitar4jesus]

Legal American got banned?  Hope the wait for the Freeper Mothership wasn't long.

Have to admit, I smiled when I read that too.

[roamer_1]

Would it improve your opinion of Trump supporters if you were to learn that many of us, deluded as we may be, actually believe this 'hyperbole'?

Then voting for and/or supporting a NYC liberal seems to be at odds with your statement.

For one, I plead guilty above described derangement. I fervently believe the republic in its intended form will not survive another 8 year Obama or Hillary, or Sanders, or Warren administration. Not with the new electorate replacement strategy being employed by the left.

It is not in its intended form even now, nor has it been for decades. And what you are supporting is doing nothing to return it to that form... Why do you suppose rock-ribbed Conservatives are against him?

The current administration, whatever you think of it, is the only governmental body in their way. Why else would they be struggling so mightily to get rid of it?

They are not 'getting rid of it'... That is beyond their ability.
They are getting rid of him. Big difference.

[skeeter]

In my opinion that is neither healthy nor rational thought, but it's just my opinion. 

The Constitution and its balance of powers is what has saved this nation.  There have been many times in the past that this very kind of hyperbolic thinking became popular but thanks to the Constitution the perceived threat was never realized.  I used to think like that myself, but then I saw our country survive 8 years of Obama.  That is when I realized that the system itself is designed to prevent these types of crises from occurring.

Once I heard Trump's rhetoric, alarm bells went off.  I could see that he is a despot intent of seizing as much power as he can through the use of rhetorical manipulation of crowds. It was obvious to me but I grew up in NY state and was well acquainted with him and his history.  I knew he was racist, regardless of what he says.  I knew he was a mobster, regardless of what he says.  I knew he was a liar, because of what he says.  I spent as much time on here as I could during the primary trying to warn people but to no avail.

We are in this mess now but I know eventually the Constitution will rectify it.  That's where I'm putting my trust.

Well if the Constitution is what your pinning your hopes on (as am I) whats happening with Mueller should at least give you pause for thought.

As far as the voter replacement strategy I referred to is concerned, for example Texas is this close to turning blue, as has my state which up to recently went both ways. Because of this strategy the GOP is about to lose the ability to win a national election. Another eight years and it'll be boom boom turn out the lights.

The left has demonstrated time and time again they do not give a fig about the Constitution. Take a look at what the democrat party has become, for cripes sake. When your enemy says they want to kill you (and a few of them are now being literal) you'd best take them seriously, as the old adage goes.

[libertybele]

   IMHO @XenaLee  very, very few Briefers want Trump Impeached it damages the GOP brand even more.   BUT most of us predicted this Carnival and knew it would distract from getting real $hit accomplished.   
   Is it possible that a Cruz Administration would have had 5 people under Federal Indictment at this point, it's possible but highly improbable.

I love Ted, but I believe he'd be going through the same horse and pony show that the left is conducting with Trump.  The leftist mental midgets are angry that HC didn't win and the only candidates that would have appeased them were either Jeb! or Kasich, perhaps even Little Marco.

One of Trump's biggest mistakes was not appointing Ted as VP; that would have unified the GOP and kicked the RINO's in the butt!

[guitar4jesus]

The left has demonstrated time and time again they do not give a fig about the Constitution.

Fortunately, the Constitution does not rely on that.

[skeeter]

It is not in its intended form even now, nor has it been for decades. And what you are supporting is doing nothing to return it to that form... Why do you suppose rock-ribbed Conservatives are against him?

Those "rock ribbed republicans' be cutting off their nose to spite their face.

This from a publication that distains Trump:

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-trump-judges-20180821-story.html

And this took me all of ten seconds to Google. I'm sure there's alot more reasons I could find.