Ann Coulter on Trump: 'I've never seen such a bad dealmaker'

[Emjay]

Its a bit like arguing with your 12 year old about why she has to do her chores...it has to be done, but it ain't fun.

It does not have to be done and it's utterly useless.   But I do enjoy your putting him in his place.  Unfortunately, he escapes and he's as avid at the keyboard as he thinks Trump is at the twitter.

I really don't know what meaning he would have in his life if he couldn't diss Trump.

[Axeslinger]

Its a bit like arguing with your 12 year old about why she has to do her chores...it has to be done, but it ain't fun.

@Emjay
@Mesaclone

Well, your inability to hold trump accountable for anything is at least now understandable:  simple logic and belief in immutable principles eludes you.  I’m sure @INVAR  will continue to try.  And I’m sure it will continue to go over your heads.

[Sanguine]

@Emjay
@Mesaclone

Well, your inability to hold trump accountable for anything is at least now understandable:  simple logic and belief in immutable principles eludes you.  I’m sure @INVAR  will continue to try.  And I’m sure it will continue to go over your heads.

They get it, @Axeslinger!  We do have some rational pro-Trump people here, and I suspect they are thoroughly sick and tired of everything being turned into an attack. 

[Axeslinger]

They get it, @Axeslinger!  We do have some rational pro-Trump here, and I suspect they are thoroughly sick and tired of everything being turned into an attack.

Or not

[Sanguine]

Or not

Really?  You are so inflexible that you can't even consider the possibility?

[skeeter]

Or not

 

[DB]

They get it, @Axeslinger!  We do have some rational pro-Trump people here, and I suspect they are thoroughly sick and tired of everything being turned into an attack.

Sanguine I really try hard not to attack other posters here. I hope it shows... I do fire back when they make it personal though.

[INVAR]

Agh.

WHEN will you folks EVER tire of turning every-stinkin-issue into an attack on people who support Trump?

I guess when Trump fans tire of attacking Conservatives who don't support Trump or whom criticize his tweets, statements and actions.

I mean, did we ever tire of attacking the morons who supported Obama and his agenda?

Nope.  Because fundamentals of liberty were being argued.

Same with Trump.

Well, your inability to hold trump accountable for anything is at least now understandable:  simple logic and belief in immutable principles eludes you.  I’m sure @INVAR  will continue to try.

I don't post here expecting people like that to do anything different than what I have come to expect from rabid Leftists arguing for their vapid and empty positions supporting the political saviors they have.

It's identical behavior.

[Sanguine]

Sanguine I really try hard not to attack other posters here. I hope it shows... I do fire back when they make it personal though.

Yeah, I have no patience for the personal attacks.  That usually means that the attacker doesn't have an argument and has to resort to that.

Y'all know I'm not a big DT fan.  Nor a big DT detractor. (Some things he does are great, many not so great...blah, blah, blah)  But, when a person gets so set in his/her opinion, whether AT or NT, that they can't let it go for even a minute and they can't see any value in any other argument that doesn't fully align with their set-in-concrete opinion, well, that's a problem.  And, it's not rational.

[Mesaclone]

@Emjay
@Mesaclone

Well, your inability to hold trump accountable for anything is at least now understandable:  simple logic and belief in immutable principles eludes you.  I’m sure @INVAR  will continue to try.  And I’m sure it will continue to go over your heads.

I hold Trump accountable for everything he does...and doesn't do...as does every Trump supporter I've ever met, either on this board or in person. I'm also rational enough to understand that what he does is limited by how much congress is willing to support...as only they can generate legislation. Simply shutting down government is not a panacea...its a double edged sword that has slit Republican throats many times. There is a time and place for it, but the only real answer is to have more conservatives voting in both houses of congress...until that happens, there are tight limits on what ANY GOP president can do. Why some of you can't comprehend this basic rule of politics...is either willful ignorance, utopian blindness, or self centered obstinacy (take you pick of which shoe fits).

And the only "immutable" principle involved here is the concept of inalienable rights...everything else in government, in pursuit of a conservative agenda, is subject to a simpler rule. That rule being majority rule...nor does simply having 50% plus 1 from the GOP in congress equate to a "majority in practice". Unless and until we get an ideologically conservative majority, the president...as Reagan before him...will strive to get the "80%" win compromise that constitutes political success in a Republic.

The above IS simple basic logic and its applicable to President Trump and congress. Some of you seem to think the President can simply walk in to the office and dictate a slew of conservative legislation...it don't work that way. You and Invar...keep thinking your hebetudinous expositions are going over our heads if that gives you comfort.

The reality is neither of you can see past your TDS and so must continuously resort to bizarre and/or simplistic explanations of Trump's every utterance and action...its ridiculously obvious to every single member of this board (though most of your fellow TDS'rs would be loathe to admit it). I'm sorry your feelings were so hurt in the last election, but its time to grow up and deal with the reality of our political situation...in a productive way. You'll be happier people just for the trying.

[roamer_1]

[...] when a person gets so set in his/her opinion, whether AT or NT, that they can't let it go for even a minute and they can't see any value in any other argument that doesn't fully align with their set-in-concrete opinion, well, that's a problem.  And, it's not rational.

That's not @INVAR

[Axeslinger]

But, when a person gets so set in his/her opinion, whether AT or NT, that they can't let it go for even a minute and they can't see any value in any other argument that doesn't fully align with their set-in-concrete opinion, well, that's a problem.  And, it's not rational.

Thank you @Sanguine ...you have exactly described @Emjay and @Mesaclone posts that I originally replied to.

[Mesaclone]

 

That's not @INVAR

[INVAR]

But, when a person gets so set in his/her opinion, whether AT or NT, that they can't let it go for even a minute and they can't see any value in any other argument that doesn't fully align with their set-in-concrete opinion, well, that's a problem.  And, it's not rational.

Why was it 'rational' then to do that when Obama was president, or to do so when Hildabeast was running?  None of us let go of our stalwart positions to see or find value in the arguments the Democrats and Leftists were making.  We all have set-in concrete positions we were not going to budge on when it comes to what the Democrats intend to do.

Why must we let go of them when anyone else wants us to move off of them?

Why must it be different now?  Why must we let our stalwart positions go for even a minute?  Is it because a "Republican" is president and we should not argue among ourselves??

[Sanguine]

That's not @INVAR

Why did he come to your mind?  I didn't identify anyone.

[Sanguine]

Thank you @Sanguine ...you have exactly described @Emjay and @Mesaclone posts that I originally replied to.

Again, I didn't identify anyone. Don't try to use my words to enforce your blind enmity.  And, I'm very sorry to say that; I usually enjoy your posts and your efforts to get some posters to back up their wild assertions.  This ain't that.

[catfish1957]

Loved Reagan. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have consider himself numbered among the NTers.

Sorry.  I forgot the part in his history when he paid hush money to porn stars.

[Mesaclone]

Thank you @Sanguine ...you have exactly described @Emjay and @Mesaclone posts that I originally replied to.

Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

[darroll]

I smell green dollars hitting someones hand.

[skeeter]

Sorry.  I forgot the part in his history when he paid hush money porn stars.

 

[roamer_1]

Why did he come to your mind?  I didn't identify anyone.

Because of the context of the thread.

[Axeslinger]

The reality is neither of you can see past your TDS and so must continuously resort to bizarre and/or simplistic explanations of Trump's every utterance and action...its ridiculously obvious to every single member of this board (though most of your fellow TDS'rs would be loathe to admit it). I'm sorry your feelings were so hurt in the last election, but its time to grow up and deal with the reality of our political situation...in a productive way. You'll be happier people just for the trying.

Um...  @Mesaclone you might wanna go review my posting history...TDS does not apply in any way. 

What does apply is TFBDS:  trump fanboy derangement syndrome....when certain posters here do not have the intellectual honesty to be able to cite ONE thing that trump has done that they disagree with... when instead they call those of us who DO have the honesty to identify both his successes and failures as their enemy...when instead they cite from their high perch that arguing with us is just beneath their tender sensibilities... well yeah, I’m gonna call it out. 

[Axeslinger]

Again, I didn't identify anyone. Don't try to use my words to enforce your blind enmity.  And, I'm very sorry to say that; I usually enjoy your posts and your efforts to get some posters to back up their wild assertions.  This ain't that.

@Sanguine  fair enough my friend...although I would ask you to go back and reread my original post, and my subsequent reply to you.   There was no enmity...merely calling out a couple of people for being blind and dismissive to another’s logic.  But regardless of how you perceive it upon review:   

[Mesaclone]

Sorry.  I forgot the part in his history when he paid hush money porn stars.

Yes, you forgot a few important "parts" in Reagan's history.

I loved Reagan as President, my all time favorite, but the man...like everyone...had some dark corners in his past. Trump has NEVER been accused of anything but consensual interactions, so spare us the holier than thou stuff.

Before he became POTUS, Reagan was an actor who was reportedly abusive and predatory toward women. Actress Selene Walters claimed that in the 1950s, Reagan raped her, reportedly telling People of their encounter: "I opened the door, then it was the battle of the couch. I was fighting him. I didn't want him to make love to me. He's a very big man, and he just had his way. Date rape? No, God, no, that's [Kelley's] phrase. I didn't have a chance to have a date with him." Actress Piper Laurie, pictured here, also claimed in her memoir that Reagan took her virginity when she was 18 and he was 39, when he played her father in a movie.

[Mesaclone]

Um...  @Mesaclone you might wanna go review my posting history...TDS does not apply in any way. 

What does apply is TFBDS:  trump fanboy derangement syndrome....when certain posters here do not have the intellectual honesty to be able to cite ONE thing that trump has done that they disagree with... when instead they call those of us who DO have the honesty to identify both his successes and failures as their enemy...when instead they cite from their high perch that arguing with us is just beneath their tender sensibilities... well yeah, I’m gonna call it out.

You too should review history, as I have criticized President Trump on many occasions. As have most Trump supporters on the board...though there is little need for us to do so given the continuous haranguing against him from the TDS crowd. And if I thought arguing was beneath my "tender sensibilities" its rather unlikely I'd be here arguing with you. Do I enjoy a high perch on occasion, but in this case my perch only seems elevated to those rolling about in the muck below. It is not my obligation to come down into the mire, but rather yours to elevate your civility and reasoning...its the old "instead of raising your voice, you should elevate your argument".