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Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
« on: August 20, 2018, 02:10:56 am »
The Post & Email by Sharon Rondeau 8/19/2018

JUNIOR CA SENATOR MAY RUN IN 2020

Given that California Sen. Kamala Harris’s Wikipedia biography states that she was born in Oakland, CA in 1964 to immigrant parents and speculation exists that she plans to run for president in 2020, Golden State citizen Gary Wilmott has been seeking information as to her citizenship status and whether or not she meets the constitutional requirement of “natural born Citizen.”

The Wikipedia entry states that Harris’s mother, Dr. Shyamala G. Harris, was from India, arriving in Berkeley, CA in 1960.

Dr. Harris passed away in February 2009.  Her “Legacy” obituary states that she arrived alone in the U.S. at the age of 19 after having earned her undergraduate degree from Delhi University.

Kamala’s father, Donald Harris, is a retired Stanford University economics professor whose biography affirms that he arrived in the U.S. in 1961 as an “Issa Scholar” from Jamaica.  It adds that he was born in Jamaica and naturalized in the U.S. but does not provide the year.

Neither parent reportedly was present in the U.S. as a legal resident for five years prior to Harris’s birth, a requirement to apply for naturalization, Wilmott observed in an interview with The Post & Email on Thursday.

After her parents divorced when she was seven, Wikipedia reports, Harris’s mother was granted full custody of her two daughters, after which they moved to Quebec, Canada.   Dr. Harris’s obituary, reposted at SFGate on March 22, 2009, states that her medical research took her to McGill University in Montreal for 16 years.  It further reads, in part:

Her passion for science was augmented by a fervent commitment to social justice. While a student at Berkeley in the ’60s, she became fully engaged in the Civil Rights Movement, leading to a lifelong fight against injustice, racial discrimination and intolerance. She instilled these values in her daughters, who in turn have dedicated their lives to the pursuit of justice and equality – one as the first female elected District Attorney of SF and the other as vice president of Peace and Social Justice at the Ford Foundation in NY.

According to Wikipedia, Harris graduated from Westmount High School in Westmount, Quebec, presumably in 1981 or 1982.  However, Harris’s U.S. Senate biography does not say that she lived and obtained most of her public education in Canada:

Growing up in Oakland, Kamala had a stroller-eye view of the Civil Rights movement. Through the example of courageous leaders like Thurgood Marshall, Constance Baker Motley, and Charles Hamilton Houston, Kamala learned the kind of character it requires to stand up to the powerful, and resolved to spend her life advocating for those who could not defend themselves. 

Wilmott considers a “natural born Citizen” to be an individual born to two U.S.-citizen parents subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.  He openly admits that his own birth in the United Kingdom to then-British-citizen parents disqualifies him from that subset of Americans.

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Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2018, 02:21:34 am »

Was Barry Goldwater eligible?

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Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2018, 02:31:54 am »
Was Barry Goldwater eligible?

Good question.

Barry Goldwater was born in Phoenix, in what was then the incorporated Arizona Territory of the United States. During his presidential campaign in 1964, there was a minor controversy over Goldwater's having been born in Arizona three years before it became a state.[102]

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Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2018, 02:38:22 am »
I would think that since Arizona was a territory of the US, Goldwater should be a NBC.

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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2018, 02:55:22 am »
Was Barry Goldwater eligible?
Isn't it a little late to worry about it? Is Harris eligible? 

Looking at the career paths of Kamala, her mother and sister,  all I can say is, "What a waste!" Geez, do something productive.
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2018, 03:01:27 am »
   Someone with Standing AND experience with arguing cases before the Supreme Court needs to take care of this $hit before 2020, if Trump does get 'Burnt Out'.   /JS

 
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2018, 03:30:25 am »
   Someone with Standing AND experience with arguing cases before the Supreme Court needs to take care of this $hit before 2020, if Trump does get 'Burnt Out'.   /JS

 

I would not count on that @corbe   I first thought Trump wanted to be President but would get bored with 'doing' President.  I've changed my mind on that.  I think it energizes him and he almost enjoys the attacks and getting back at the people who make them.

But I still hope to see Ted Cruz as President.  It's unusual for the same party to get in after 8 years but if the democrat party continues to disintegrate, we might see it.
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2018, 03:41:17 am »
   Good point @Emjay if it's true Trump won't be happy just doing the 8 that GWB, Reagan and Eisenhower did, he may want to outdo FDR.   
   I wont live to see it.
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2018, 04:29:39 am »
  Not Ted Cruz!  All of Trumps good work will be UNDONE! TED SIGNED THAT TTP, OR TPP, which was bad for America, then said, Oops. Can't have that.  Don't fall for this act by Cruz.  He is also on madams list in DC. If Trumps "not pure enough", Cruz is worse!   
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2018, 04:36:45 am »
  Not Ted Cruz!  All of Trumps good work will be UNDONE! TED SIGNED THAT TTP, OR TPP, which was bad for America, then said, Oops. Can't have that.  Don't fall for this act by Cruz.  He is also on madams list in DC. If Trumps "not pure enough", Cruz is worse!

@LegalAmerican

That is the second time in two days I've seen you post that crap about Cruz being on some "madam's list". Now is the time to offer real proof of such a scurrilous charge.

Considering how you have forgiven Trump for his dozens of peccadillos, why even bring up this fake news about Cruz?

Unlike @corbe , I no longer view your posts as humorous. They're the pathetic ramblings of an ill-informed, undereducated cretin.
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Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2018, 05:07:40 am »
  Not Ted Cruz!  All of Trumps good work will be UNDONE! TED SIGNED THAT TTP, OR TPP, which was bad for America, then said, Oops. Can't have that.  Don't fall for this act by Cruz.  He is also on madams list in DC. If Trumps "not pure enough", Cruz is worse!

That is a vile rumor @LegalAmerican   As far as I know, you are the only person to be spreading it around.

Ted Cruz is a fine man, a family man and a true conservative.  A post like that just makes you look crazy.
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Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2018, 05:08:34 am »
   Good point @Emjay if it's true Trump won't be happy just doing the 8 that GWB, Reagan and Eisenhower did, he may want to outdo FDR.   
   I wont live to see it.

You know perfectly well that Trump cannot serve 3 times.  I don't think even he would attempt such a thing.
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« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2018, 07:03:32 am »
  Not Ted Cruz!  All of Trumps good work will be UNDONE! TED SIGNED THAT TTP, OR TPP, which was bad for America, then said, Oops. Can't have that.  Don't fall for this act by Cruz.  He is also on madams list in DC. If Trumps "not pure enough", Cruz is worse!

First of all, what good work?

Secondly, how can Ted Cruz sign a trade agreement?  He's not authorized.

Third, I suppose you also thinkTed Cruz's father plotted with Oswald to kill JFK too.  Do you really consider the National Enquirer and Alex Jones sources of real news?  If you do, you aren't as bright as you think. 

By the way, your god, Trump, helped spread those bogus stories about Ted Cruz in order to win the primaries and become the Republican nominee for president.  Do you really like having a liar for president?  What makes you think he tells the truth in his Twitter posts and elsewhere?

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« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2018, 11:52:51 am »
Kamala Harris born 1964 in Oakland California.


Yes she is eligible.



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Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2018, 11:57:24 am »
Kamala Harris born 1964 in Oakland California.  Yes she is eligible.

Are you saying a natural born citizens for purposes of qualifying to be the President of the United States is to be born on American soil?

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« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2018, 11:59:39 am »
Secondly, how can Ted Cruz sign a trade agreement? 

Okay, let's change that to Cruz "signed onto" TPP.  Feel better @Applewood ?

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« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2018, 12:19:12 pm »
Well, she's a Rat, so yeah she's eligible.  She's a Two-Fer.
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Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2018, 12:23:55 pm »
Are you saying a natural born citizens for purposes of qualifying to be the President of the United States is to be born on American soil?

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« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2018, 12:26:58 pm »
First of all, what good work?

Secondly, how can Ted Cruz sign a trade agreement?  He's not authorized.

Third, I suppose you also thinkTed Cruz's father plotted with Oswald to kill JFK too.  Do you really consider the National Enquirer and Alex Jones sources of real news?  If you do, you aren't as bright as you think. 

By the way, your god, Trump, helped spread those bogus stories about Ted Cruz in order to win the primaries and become the Republican nominee for president.  Do you really like having a liar for president?  What makes you think he tells the truth in his Twitter posts and elsewhere?

There is no way in hell (under original intent) the son of a Cuban born in Canada is a natural born
citizen of the United States of America. Without a Counselor Report of Birth Abroad (Ted doesn't
have one) Ted Cruz is technically an illegal alien. There is also very good reason to believe Ted
mom had Canadian citizenship at the time of Ted's birth.

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Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2018, 12:41:53 pm »
@LegalAmerican

That is the second time in two days I've seen you post that crap about Cruz being on some "madam's list". Now is the time to offer real proof of such a scurrilous charge.

Considering how you have forgiven Trump for his dozens of peccadillos, why even bring up this fake news about Cruz?

Unlike @corbe , I no longer view your posts as humorous. They're the pathetic ramblings of an ill-informed, undereducated cretin.

I think we're gonna need some of this....

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Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2018, 12:59:25 pm »
Kamala Harris born 1964 in Oakland California.

Yes she is eligible.
As I understand the question, the place of her birth is not the issue. It's the thing about her non-citizen parents and five years' residency. I'm not going to delve into this one any deeper, however, as the real threat to be the Dem candidate may not be Harris but Sherod Brown of Ohio (who's busy playing the role of fake moderate).
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Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2018, 01:12:49 pm »
Are you saying a natural born citizens for purposes of qualifying to be the President of the United States is to be born on American soil?

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It is one such way, so long as said person is subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
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« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2018, 03:15:14 pm »
As I understand the question, the place of her birth is not the issue. It's the thing about her non-citizen parents and five years' residency. I'm not going to delve into this one any deeper, however, as the real threat to be the Dem candidate may not be Harris but Sherod Brown of Ohio (who's busy playing the role of fake moderate).

I think this was settled during the Obastard Admin.  Nobody can possibly have the standing to sue, even other candidates and electors.  That's how the numerous suits ended at SCOTUS.
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« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2018, 03:32:16 pm »
There is no way in hell (under original intent) the son of a Cuban born in Canada is a natural born
citizen of the United States of America. Without a Counselor Report of Birth Abroad (Ted doesn't
have one) Ted Cruz is technically an illegal alien. There is also very good reason to believe Ted
mom had Canadian citizenship at the time of Ted's birth.


I understand there were rumors Mrs. Cruz was not an American citizen, but I don't know if it was ever proven. 

I was one of those who argued about this NBC issue for months when Cruz was in the running for the presidency, but in the end, I think the only way this whole thing is going to ever be resolved is through an appeal before SCOTUS.  Certainly can't depend on the lazy, corrupt lumps in congress to pass clear, concise legislation accurately defining once and for all the term "Natural Born Citizen."  Hell, some of them would probably want to make an illegal or a so-called Middle East refugee presidency without any kind of citizenship at all.

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« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2018, 03:42:57 pm »
Okay, let's change that to Cruz "signed onto" TPP.  Feel better @Applewood ?

No, he didn't sign on to anything either.     


The real story is here (and don't give me any blather about the source; it's correct):

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/10/ted-cruz/ted-cruz-i-always-opposed-tpp-trans-pacific-partne/


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