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Trump's flip-flop on tariffs burns company that backed his trade war

by Pete Kasperowicz

August 10, 2018 12:00 AM

 
 Three months ago, Element Electronics of South Carolina was a big supporter of President Trump's plan to impose tariffs on goods from China.

Then, the plan changed, and this week, that same company said it was closing up shop because the Trump administration was suddenly threatening tariffs on a critical component it imports from China.

The real story of how Element Electronics started as a supporter of Trump's trade war but quickly became a victim is still a mystery, as even the company doesn't seem to know why the tariff plan was changed so radically.

But the development alarmed some Washington trade policy professionals, who noted that Element's early support for Trump didn't seem to win it any political favors from the administration.

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trumps-flip-flop-on-tariffs-burns-company-that-backed-his-trade-war
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Re: Trump's flip-flop on tariffs burns company that backed his trade war
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2018, 04:02:47 pm »
"The real story of how Element Electronics started as a supporter of Trump's trade war but quickly became a victim is still a mystery, as even the company doesn't seem to know why the tariff plan was changed so radically."

It changed so fast because Trump changes his mind every day.  You cannot rely on what he says.  You cannot trust him.  The lie checkers say he lies an average of 8 times a day.  He can destroy your livelihood in one day as he did with this company.   He also would not pay his worker companies and got sued which he didn't care - he just kept the cases in court and the companies couldn't keep paying lawyers, so a number of them went out of business.  Others took Trump's offer of pennies on the dollar in order to stop paying their lawyers.  He is "red tide" to any one who does business with him and that includes every citizen of this country now that he is the boss.

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Re: Trump's flip-flop on tariffs burns company that backed his trade war
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2018, 04:17:56 pm »
"The real story of how Element Electronics started as a supporter of Trump's trade war but quickly became a victim is still a mystery, as even the company doesn't seem to know why the tariff plan was changed so radically."

It changed so fast because Trump changes his mind every day.  You cannot rely on what he says.  You cannot trust him.  The lie checkers say he lies an average of 8 times a day.  He can destroy your livelihood in one day as he did with this company.   He also would not pay his worker companies and got sued which he didn't care - he just kept the cases in court and the companies couldn't keep paying lawyers, so a number of them went out of business.  Others took Trump's offer of pennies on the dollar in order to stop paying their lawyers.  He is "red tide" to any one who does business with him and that includes every citizen of this country now that he is the boss.



The problem with government interventionism is that it becomes a self-feeding monster, constantly intervening to fix problems it created in the first place. Unlike what is claimed by Progressives or the Buchanan populist wing, you can't legislate fairness, every attempt has the exact opposite.

The other elephant in the room that no one wants to discuss is that a trade imbalance is a natural result of wealth and growth. We are a wealthy nation so it is normal that we will consume more than we produce and what we produce will be more higher value items versus items with not enough margins to make it equitable to manufacture versus purchase from those less wealthy.  Take it from a macro to a micro level. Someone is wealthy will always buy more than someone who isn't. While someone who isn't wealthy can find far more value in producing lower cost items to sell to those who are. You won't find (usually, there are always exceptions) someone who is wealthy working on the local assembly line, but he will be purchasing the products made there or somewhere down that supply chain.

This is a mess we got ourselves into long before 'free trade' agreements, instead, in the 60s and 70s when the government tried to put in protections in place to protect union employment. Instead of innovating to keep up with foreign producers (a good example is Japan's steel and auto industries), unions lobbied the government to block or tax their imports. They kicked and screamed against innovation because it would take fewer people on their rolls to make a product. If they let the market play out, they would have innovated and still been competitive. Some may have lost their jobs, but they would have been created elsewhere.

The government interventionism cycle.



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Re: Trump's flip-flop on tariffs burns company that backed his trade war
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2018, 04:22:57 pm »
   It's so confusing to be a Trumper these days.......

   A dem lawyer is destroying the credibility of the guy who ran the 'day to day' Campaign, sat on the Inaugural Committee and set up Trump PAC and this is suppose to make me happy?

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Re: Trump's flip-flop on tariffs burns company that backed his trade war
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2018, 04:35:53 pm »
   It's so confusing to be a Trumper these days.......

   A dem lawyer is destroying the credibility of the guy who ran the 'day to day' Campaign, sat on the Inaugural Committee and set up Trump PAC and this is suppose to make me happy?


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Re: Trump's flip-flop on tariffs burns company that backed his trade war
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2018, 04:40:06 pm »
Never expect loyalty from Trump.  He may demand loyalty from you, but you may not get it in return. 

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Re: Trump's flip-flop on tariffs burns company that backed his trade war
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2018, 08:06:48 pm »
Appears they made some poor quality products, which might be the reason they are closing up shop.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,327565.msg1762374.html#msg1762374

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Re: Trump's flip-flop on tariffs burns company that backed his trade war
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2018, 08:18:23 pm »
Appears they made some poor quality products, which might be the reason they are closing up shop.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,327565.msg1762374.html#msg1762374

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Re: Trump's flip-flop on tariffs burns company that backed his trade war
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2018, 08:27:50 pm »


              Is a terrible business model.
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