GOP senator: 'Real likelihood' Dems win the House 'by 10 or 12 more seats than they need'

[Absalom]

Lindsey Graham knows about this election - his advice is sound. He is a smart lawyer whose parents were killed when he was a teenager.  He and his sister lived with the grandparents and Lindsey worked a job to help the grandparents.  He sent himself to college, then sent his sister to college.  Those who cast stones at him, do not know him.

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Graham Parents were killed when he was a teenager.
What does that sad tragedy have to do his prediction about the fall election????????

[truth_seeker]

You third party types had the best chance you ever had to pull that off in '16. Better than Ross Perot. Better than Teddy Roosevelt. Better than John Anderson. You came up a big fat zero. Not even a blip on the screen. It ain't ever going to happen.

Third Party types: Unrealistic. Impractical. Not persuasive. Dreamy. Losers. Poor judgment.

I supported Perot in 1992. In 194 I "Literally" sobered up. I considered what my flawed thinking had contributed to, with Clinton. I grew up, politically.

[TomSea]

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Graham Parents were killed when he was a teenager.
What does that sad tragedy have to do his prediction about the fall election????????

I don't know, maybe what was said about Graham being a "lonely boy" who needs his hand held doesn't have anything to do with the election as well. That's what @Victoria33  was responding to, reply #2 .  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,327674.0.html

[XenaLee]

@XenaLee   Oh, cheer up.  The democrats have overplayed their hand.  They've allowed their party to slip into the hands of real socialists and really crazy people.

If the media were even slightly fair, more people would know about their demise into evil.

But we have technology on our hands we never had before.  We have Twitter.  I don't use it, but it's very effective and gives People a voice. 

We have Facebook which, for all its faults, often reveals the truth ... at least on my page.

We have Fox News which is trying to commit suicide by being 'fair and balanced' but hasn't yet.

We have the Internet where people can find information for themselves.

I think more long-term democrats are 'walking away.'  It will become more obvious as time goes by.

You have (unwittingly, perhaps) stumbled across the main reason for my doubts for the future of this nation.  Problem:  most people in America are unaware of the radical-ness of the Democratic Party, much less of the rampant corruption of Democrats IN that party.  The left controls mainstream media.  And these clueless people vote.  Between that fact... and the probability that the rats have something 'special' planned for their October surprise in 2020... I have a hard time being "cheered up".

[INVAR]

Third Party types: Unrealistic. Impractical. Not persuasive. Dreamy. Losers. Poor judgment.

Year after year, decade after decade voting for Republicans and expecting them to do what they campaigned upon is an abject lesson in insanity.

Besides, they told Constitutional, Principled, limited and small government proponents to sit down, vote for their liberal, shut up about morals or get the hell out of their party.

We obliged.

What is unrealistic is thinking the Republican party will govern Conservatively.

It won't and never will.

[cato potatoe]

The RCP average is down to D+5 as of this morning.  Dems would probably retake majority, but only by a few seats.

[INVAR]

You have (unwittingly, perhaps) stumbled across the main reason for my doubts for the future of this nation.  Problem:  most people in America are unaware of the radical-ness of the Democratic Party, much less of the rampant corruption of Democrats IN that party.  The left controls mainstream media.  And these clueless people vote.  Between that fact... and the probability that the rats have something 'special' planned for their October surprise in 2020... I have a hard time being "cheered up".

The main problem is not caused by the media.

That is just a symptom of an ignorant people no longer rooted in our former foundations that latch onto what they want to hear.  A people rooted in our foundations would recognize the dangers of the wolves in political clothing and would eschew them.  Instead criminals like Hildabeast win the popular vote.

The bulk of the population have discarded the foundational principles that are required to maintain liberty in a republic.  They no longer teach them to their children, and they are totally ignorant about who and what we are supposed to be outside of how the corruption of politics is now played.

Since education has been completely surrendered to public indoctrination centers and parents have abdicated their responsibilities to teach - generations of us were easy prey to teach falsehoods to.

It is not possible to maintain liberty in this culture and political environment.

Our Founders even warned us of where we now find ourselves - mainly because they were not ignorant of history or lied to themselves that those lessons cannot be visited upon us because we are this mythically great people upon whom the laws of morality, economics and human nature do not apply.

[240B]

The RCP average is down to D+5 as of this morning.  Dems would probably retake majority, but only by a few seats.

I have no idea what Graham thinks he is accomplishing by this. I have never thought of him as a conservative or even as a Republican. But what he is doing here is good. I want more Pubs to come out with the same doom-and-gloom predictions.

When either Party believes that the election is in the bag and there is no way they can lose, voter participation tanks. That is why I hate when anyone, including Trump, starts talking about a Red Wave. NO. We as Republicans need to keep promoting the Blue Wave theory as Graham is doing here. This will motivate Republicans and it will keep Dems at home. Which is just what we want.

[Emjay]

You have (unwittingly, perhaps) stumbled across the main reason for my doubts for the future of this nation.  Problem:  most people in America are unaware of the radical-ness of the Democratic Party, much less of the rampant corruption of Democrats IN that party.  The left controls mainstream media.  And these clueless people vote.  Between that fact... and the probability that the rats have something 'special' planned for their October surprise in 2020... I have a hard time being "cheered up".

I strongly disagree.  And don't accuse me of being unwitting.  I am always witting ... or at least witty but stay unhappy if you insist.

[XenaLee]

I strongly disagree.  And don't accuse me of being unwitting.  I am always witting ... or at least witty but stay unhappy if you insist.

LMAO!  You're cracking me....

up.

[BassWrangler]

@BassWrangler

I just added you to my buddy list because you are an independent thinker.  In judging congress people, it is good to know what they did before they got there.  Their past behavior tells one what their future behavior is likely to be.  Graham had no financial help to go to college and keep going to become a lawyer. 

"Before being elected to Congress, Graham compiled a distinguished record in the United States Air Force as he logged six-and-a-half years of service on active duty as an Air Force lawyer. From 1984-1988, he was assigned overseas and served at Rhein-Main Air Force Base in Germany. Upon leaving active duty Air Force in 1989, Graham joined the South Carolina Air National Guard where he served until 1995. During the first Gulf War in the early 90's, Graham was called to active duty and served state-side at McEntire Air National Guard Base as Staff Judge Advocate where he prepared members for deployment to the Gulf region.

In 1995, Graham joined the U.S. Air Force Reserves. During American military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, Graham put his experience in military law to use pulling numerous short-term Reserve duties in both countries over congressional breaks and holidays.

Graham retired from the Air Force Reserves in June 2015 having served his country in uniform for 33 years. He retired at the rank of Colonel.

A native South Carolinian, Graham grew up in a blue collar family in the small town of Central where his parents ran a restaurant and pool hall. The first member of his family to go to college, Graham earned his undergraduate and law degrees from the University of South Carolina. He lives in Seneca and is a member of Corinth Baptist Church."

 

[libertybele]

@BassWrangler

I just added you to my buddy list because you are an independent thinker.  In judging congress people, it is good to know what they did before they got there.  Their past behavior tells one what their future behavior is likely to be.  Graham had no financial help to go to college and keep going to become a lawyer. 

"Before being elected to Congress, Graham compiled a distinguished record in the United States Air Force as he logged six-and-a-half years of service on active duty as an Air Force lawyer. From 1984-1988, he was assigned overseas and served at Rhein-Main Air Force Base in Germany. Upon leaving active duty Air Force in 1989, Graham joined the South Carolina Air National Guard where he served until 1995. During the first Gulf War in the early 90's, Graham was called to active duty and served state-side at McEntire Air National Guard Base as Staff Judge Advocate where he prepared members for deployment to the Gulf region.

In 1995, Graham joined the U.S. Air Force Reserves. During American military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, Graham put his experience in military law to use pulling numerous short-term Reserve duties in both countries over congressional breaks and holidays.

Graham retired from the Air Force Reserves in June 2015 having served his country in uniform for 33 years. He retired at the rank of Colonel.

A native South Carolinian, Graham grew up in a blue collar family in the small town of Central where his parents ran a restaurant and pool hall. The first member of his family to go to college, Graham earned his undergraduate and law degrees from the University of South Carolina. He lives in Seneca and is a member of Corinth Baptist Church."

Ok ... he's an accomplished and decorated military man.  That does not in any way mean he's been a good GOP Senator. 

[sneakypete]

Ok ... he's an accomplished and decorated military man.  That does not in any way mean he's been a good GOP Senator.

@libertybele

No,he was a lawyer in the military. As such he would never be in a position to earn a military decoration. He was a lawyer wearing a uniform,nothing else.

[Victoria33]

@libertybele No,he was a lawyer in the military. As such he would never be in a position to earn a military decoration. He was a lawyer wearing a uniform,nothing else.

@sneakypete

Graham served overseas in war zones:
From 1984-1988, he was assigned overseas and served at Rhein-Main Air Force Base in Germany. During the first Gulf War in the early 90's, Graham was called to active duty. In 1995, Graham joined the U.S. Air Force Reserves. During American military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, Graham put his experience in military law to use pulling numerous short-term Reserve duties in both countries, Iraq/Afghanistan, over congressional breaks and holidays.

[libertybele]

@sneakypete

Graham served overseas in war zones:
From 1984-1988, he was assigned overseas and served at Rhein-Main Air Force Base in Germany. During the first Gulf War in the early 90's, Graham was called to active duty. In 1995, Graham joined the U.S. Air Force Reserves. During American military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, Graham put his experience in military law to use pulling numerous short-term Reserve duties in both countries, Iraq/Afghanistan, over congressional breaks and holidays.

Again ... he's a military man.  That doesn't mean he's a good Senator.  What needs to be weighed out is his voting record and his actions.  Lindsey does possess some conservative values, but where he and I disagree is his stance on illegal immigration; guest worker program, illegals getting social security, etc.  Though he claims he is not for amnesty he wants to grant illegals citizenship through legislation.  Perhaps the most troubling is his statement that American-Muslims aren't a problem.  To me IF they are here illegally or by supposed refugee status that IS a problem.  He IS a member of the Gang of Eight and to me that mutes a lot of his conservative values and speaks volumes.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Lindsey_Graham.htm

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete

Graham served overseas in war zones:
From 1984-1988, he was assigned overseas and served at Rhein-Main Air Force Base in Germany. During the first Gulf War in the early 90's, Graham was called to active duty. In 1995, Graham joined the U.S. Air Force Reserves. During American military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, Graham put his experience in military law to use pulling numerous short-term Reserve duties in both countries, Iraq/Afghanistan, over congressional breaks and holidays.

@Victoria33

Do NOT confuse that with combat service. What JAG's do in combat zones is sit in and never leave the base camp while handing court-martials.They are lawyers,not soldiers. Or in Lady Lindey's case,a lawyer and not a fighter pilot.

[Hoodat]

Regardless of whether or not the GOP loses the House, they certainly deserve to lose it.  I certainly won't be voting for my House member after that travesty of a budget they just passed.

[Wingnut]

@Victoria33

Do NOT confuse that with combat service. What JAG's do in combat zones is sit in and never leave the base camp while handing court-martials.They are lawyers,not soldiers. Or in Lady Lindey's case,a lawyer and not a fighter pilot.

Yep.  He flew a GD desk. 

[Applewood]

Regardless of whether or not the GOP loses the House, they certainly deserve to lose it.  I certainly won't be voting for my House member after that travesty of a budget they just passed.

Oh, but you have to @Hoodat -- to save this country from the tax and spend Democrats.   

Never mind that the Republicans also believe in tax and spend  --as evidenced by that so-called budget you mention. 

[Hoodat]

Oh, but you have to @Hoodat -- to save this country from the tax and spend Democrats.   

The misnomer of the title is the word 'need'.  It has been clear since 2010 that the Democrats don't 'need' anything.  They have gotten everything they want and more from the GOP House.