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In Trump era, Beto O'Rourke eyes an end to Republican grip on Texas
« on: July 31, 2018, 02:24:56 pm »
In Trump era, Beto O'Rourke eyes an end to Republican grip on Texas

    By Kendall Karson
    John Verhovek

Jul 30, 2018, 5:21 PM ET

 A Democratic dream for nearly a quarter century has been the prospect of turning Texas blue, but in reality, no Democrat has been elected to statewide office since 1994 or held a Senate seat since 1993 when Lloyd Bentsen left to become Treasury Secretary in the Clinton administration.

That history, and the difficulty of replicating Bentsen’s victories, is not lost on Democratic Rep. Beto O'Rourke, the El Paso congressman who is mounting an aggressive campaign and raising a staggering amount of money in a bid to unseat outspoken conservative Sen. Ted Cruz.

For O’Rourke, he views the party's long-standing minority status in the state as changing if, and only if, his aggressive pitch that incorporates a unique blend of progressive politics and Texas values can win over voters in the reddest areas of a deep-red state.

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Re: In Trump era, Beto O'Rourke eyes an end to Republican grip on Texas
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2018, 02:29:56 pm »
Fluff stories like this one just reaffirm the fact that the MSM wants little "Paddy" to win so bad. 
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Re: In Trump era, Beto O'Rourke eyes an end to Republican grip on Texas
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2018, 02:53:34 pm »
Didn't the Rats "eye and end to Republican grip in Texas" in the Obama era?

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Re: In Trump era, Beto O'Rourke eyes an end to Republican grip on Texas
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2018, 02:54:21 pm »
Quote from: The Ghost on July 31, 2018, 02:29:56 pm
Fluff stories like this one just reaffirm the fact that the MSM wants little "Paddy" to win so bad.

There are quite a few Trump supporters cheering for Ted’s defeat, and none too quietly.
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Re: In Trump era, Beto O'Rourke eyes an end to Republican grip on Texas
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2018, 03:18:04 pm »
Add that a lot of Hollywood money is pouring into Radar O'Reilly's coffer, along with the media's demonizing of Cruz (and anything conservative), and the fight is on.
I still think Cruz prevails, which you might think would demoralize the left, after their monumental efforts to unseat him fail.
However, just like the Abbott/Barbie race, they will continue to try.
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Re: In Trump era, Beto O'Rourke eyes an end to Republican grip on Texas
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2018, 03:34:30 pm »

Do many Texans have a problem with Cruz? If so then what are the problems?

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Re: In Trump era, Beto O'Rourke eyes an end to Republican grip on Texas
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2018, 05:04:38 pm »
Quote from: endicom on July 31, 2018, 03:34:30 pm
Do many Texans have a problem with Cruz? If so then what are the problems?

Only Democrats and hard Trump supporters. Ted has a lock on the suburbs in Houston and North Texas.
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Re: In Trump era, Beto O'Rourke eyes an end to Republican grip on Texas
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2018, 05:10:14 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on July 31, 2018, 05:04:38 pm
Only Democrats and hard Trump supporters. Ted has a lock on the suburbs in Houston and North Texas.

Yep.  There are like 3 or 4 blue counties that will prolly go for Paddy O'Furniture.   Harris, Travis, Dallas and whatever county San Antonio is in.
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Re: In Trump era, Beto O'Rourke eyes an end to Republican grip on Texas
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2018, 05:12:10 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on July 31, 2018, 02:54:21 pm
There are quite a few Trump supporters cheering for Ted’s defeat, and none too quietly.

Can you name them? I can't find any.
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Re: In Trump era, Beto O'Rourke eyes an end to Republican grip on Texas
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2018, 05:15:12 pm »
Quote from: The Ghost on July 31, 2018, 05:10:14 pm
Yep.  There are like 3 or 4 blue counties that will prolly go for Paddy O'Furniture.   Harris, Travis, Dallas and whatever county San Antonio is in.

Bexar.  Also, El Paso and the Valley.
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Re: In Trump era, Beto O'Rourke eyes an end to Republican grip on Texas
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2018, 05:16:59 pm »
Quote from: endicom on July 31, 2018, 03:34:30 pm
Do many Texans have a problem with Cruz? If so then what are the problems?

In a big general sense, no. But you still have many who hold grudges that he went up against Trump (think about how Freepers still talk about him).  They aren't enough to swing but in the era of social media, you never know how dissatisfaction can go viral or be exploited.

Either way, the Cruz camp should fight this like they are 20 points down. Francis is getting a LOT of media attention and social media momentum. And although logic dictates that it is Cruz's race to win, I wouldn't take anything for granted. Even shaving a sizable percentage off Cruz's lead, and if turnout can be impacted, could possibly change things.

We may be a Red state, but we are deeply independent as well and can buck national trends. We are the State of Ann Richards and Willie Nelson. If Beto decides to change his tone and start swinging a shotgun around and talking about the little guy (especially if he goes up against government land grabs), and worse, gets famous Democrat Willie Nelson on stage with him, it could change the dynamic in a heart beat.

https://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/music/2018-07-05/willie-nelson-unites-america/


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Re: In Trump era, Beto O'Rourke eyes an end to Republican grip on Texas
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2018, 05:18:16 pm »
  San Antonio is in Bexar (pronounced bear) County and it will definitely go with the paddy, also the few you mentioned @The Ghost and a few southern counties (McAllen, etc...) on the border with mehico will overwhelmingly vote for Beto. 
  Sen. Cruz will win Texas by at least 10~12%, in spite of the hard core Trumpers and Dems hate, book it, IMHO.
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Re: In Trump era, Beto O'Rourke eyes an end to Republican grip on Texas
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2018, 05:18:48 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on July 31, 2018, 05:15:12 pm
Bexar.  Also, El Paso and the Valley.

Thanks.  Had a si señor moment there and forgot Bexar.
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Re: In Trump era, Beto O'Rourke eyes an end to Republican grip on Texas
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2018, 05:18:55 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on July 31, 2018, 05:16:59 pm
In a big general sense, no. But you still have many who hold grudges that he went up against Trump (think about how Freepers still talk about him).  They aren't enough to swing but in the era of social media, you never know how dissatisfaction can go viral or be exploited.

Either way, the Cruz camp should fight this like they are 20 points down. Francis is getting a LOT of media attention and social media momentum. And although logic dictates that it is Cruz's race to win, I wouldn't take anything for granted. Even shaving a sizable percentage off Cruz's lead, and if turnout can be impacted, could possibly change things.

We may be a Red state, but we are deeply independent as well and can buck national trends. We are the State of Ann Richards and Willie Nelson. If Beto decides to change his tone and start swinging a shotgun around and talking about the little guy (especially if he goes up against government land grabs), and worse, gets famous Democrat Willie Nelson on stage with him, it could change the dynamic in a heart beat.

https://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/music/2018-07-05/willie-nelson-unites-america/



Agreed.  And, from what I can see, Cruz is campaigning hard.
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Re: In Trump era, Beto O'Rourke eyes an end to Republican grip on Texas
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2018, 05:18:59 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on July 31, 2018, 05:12:10 pm
Can you name them? I can't find any.

Go to Freerepublic.com and look at an average thread about him.

For example:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3634936/posts
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Re: In Trump era, Beto O'Rourke eyes an end to Republican grip on Texas
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2018, 05:24:12 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on July 31, 2018, 05:18:59 pm
Go to Freerepublic.com and look at an average thread about him.

For example:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3634936/posts

Oh give me an effing break. You have to cite a bunch of dead ender cranks on some faded forum? I said I wanted names. That would be of real people that others have heard about. Even Donny is supporting Cruz in that race.
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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2018, 05:24:15 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on July 31, 2018, 05:18:55 pm
Agreed.  And, from what I can see, Cruz is campaigning hard.

Beto is going town to town. He has been in our little town probably (if I remember correctly without looking it up) 6 times- usually sponsored by little old lady social clubs, and they were busy.

Cruz was here twice so far, both very restricted, limited visits for donors. (one had about 20 people at it, 1/4th were reporters).

Our local newspaper is stacked with editorial after editorial against Cruz and the letters to the editor they choose to show the 'counter point' is always filtered to show the absolute nuttiest of the nuts. (A friend of mine at the paper told me they really do select the loons on purpose).  And we are one of the reddest areas too.

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Re: In Trump era, Beto O'Rourke eyes an end to Republican grip on Texas
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2018, 05:25:54 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on July 31, 2018, 05:18:59 pm
Go to Freerepublic.com and look at an average thread about him.

For example:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3634936/posts

Ugh.  That inspired me to do a post there for the first time in years.  I probably won't even bother to look at the responses.
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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2018, 05:26:14 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on July 31, 2018, 05:24:12 pm
Oh give me an effing break. You have to cite a bunch of dead ender cranks on some faded forum? I said I wanted names. That would be of real people that others have heard about. Even Donny is supporting Cruz in that race.

A 'dead ender crank's' vote is worth the same as an active millennial. At that, many of those 'dead ender cranks' are the ones who work for local precinct offices and are usually the ones going door to door, putting up signs and handing out fliers.

Something that the GOP is having trouble filling this year.
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Re: In Trump era, Beto O'Rourke eyes an end to Republican grip on Texas
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2018, 05:29:46 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on July 31, 2018, 05:25:54 pm
Ugh.  That inspired me to do a post there for the first time in years.  I probably won't even bother to look at the responses.

I'll reply to you with some "tos trump" love.... wink777
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Re: In Trump era, Beto O'Rourke eyes an end to Republican grip on Texas
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2018, 05:31:56 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on July 31, 2018, 02:54:21 pm
There are quite a few Trump supporters cheering for Ted’s defeat, and none too quietly.

One would have to question the motives, intention and honesty....

of any "supposed" Trump supporter that would cheer for a damned Democrat to win.
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Re: In Trump era, Beto O'Rourke eyes an end to Republican grip on Texas
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2018, 05:33:59 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on July 31, 2018, 05:04:38 pm
Only Democrats and hard Trump supporters. Ted has a lock on the suburbs in Houston and North Texas.

I’m a “hard” Trump supporter but I have no idea what you’re talking about. I like Ted Cruz and I’m glad the President has Sen. Cruz’s support and can count on his help getting the president’s agenda through the senate.
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Re: In Trump era, Beto O'Rourke eyes an end to Republican grip on Texas
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2018, 05:39:19 pm »
Quote from: The Ghost on July 31, 2018, 05:10:14 pm
Yep.  There are like 3 or 4 blue counties that will prolly go for Paddy O'Furniture.   Harris, Travis, Dallas and whatever county San Antonio is in.

Dallas and Tarrant counties are more red than you might think. The suburbs surrounding Dallas and Fort Worth are Cruz country.
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Re: In Trump era, Beto O'Rourke eyes an end to Republican grip on Texas
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2018, 05:45:34 pm »
Paddy O'Rourke's chances of beating Ted Cruz are roughly the same as mine at flapping my wings and flying to the moon!
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Re: In Trump era, Beto O'Rourke eyes an end to Republican grip on Texas
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2018, 05:48:10 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on July 31, 2018, 05:26:14 pm
A 'dead ender crank's' vote is worth the same as an active millennial. At that, many of those 'dead ender cranks' are the ones who work for local precinct offices and are usually the ones going door to door, putting up signs and handing out fliers.

Something that the GOP is having trouble filling this year.

Even if every single one of them voted for Beatoff it wouldn't matter a damn hill of beans. Very few people know what FR is anymore and the ones that do don't care.
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