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Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely.. By Jay Cost
« on: July 31, 2018, 02:13:23 pm »
   Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely
By Jay Cost

July 30, 2018 6:30 AM

Despite his achievements, Trump is unpresidential, and that will matter to voters.

By most accounts, there is an electoral wave building in favor of the Democratic party. Democrats are in good shape to win the necessary 23 seats to take control of the House of Representatives, nab several governorships, and collect a multitude of state legislative seats. The Senate, by virtue of this year’s map that favors Republicans, should remain in GOP hands. But all in all, a wave seems to be looming.

Granted, the out party usually does well in midterm elections such as the one scheduled for November. But this is not always a guarantee. Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, and Barack Obama suffered routs in 1982, 1994, and 2010, respectively, but John F. Kennedy, Jimmy Carter, and George W. Bush did not in 1962, 1978, and 2002.

If we look only at the macro conditions of the country, we might think that the Republicans are in reasonably good shape. The United States is not bogged down in any major wars abroad. At home, we have a reasonably strong economy, bolstered by the most recently reported growth rate, of 4.1 percent. And the incumbent party has not passed any legislation that has met with the widespread disapproval of the voters. That should put the GOP of 2018 in better shape than it was in 1982, or that Democrats were in 1994 or 2010.

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Re: Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely.. By Jay Cost
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2018, 02:15:23 pm »
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Re: Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely.. By Jay Cost
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2018, 02:20:55 pm »
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   Despite his achievements, Trump is unpresidential, and that will matter to voters.


Bingo.  And that is why it is insane for professional pugilists like Steve Bannon to shout the Democratic line that this fall is an referendum on Trump.  Be careful what you wish for.   Trumpism may be appealing,  and the President' acheivements are substantial,  but Trump the man is a national embarrassment.   The referendum this fall needs to be on the economy, and how a Dem House will effectively end efforts to lower taxes and deregulate the conduct of business.   Our prosperity is strong, but fragile, because it hinges on the wayward tweets of a dope.   
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Re: Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely.. By Jay Cost
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2018, 02:24:14 pm »
He has undoubtedly advanced the conservative agenda, but he has not done so in a presidential manner.

OK we're gonna chuck it all because Trump gave a stupid answer at the Helsinki press conference.

If this is true then I will finally accept that I've been foolish to hope for a turnaraound from the trajectory of the past 50 years, the country is over, and wants & fully deserves whatever follows.
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Re: Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely.. By Jay Cost
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2018, 04:27:22 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on July 31, 2018, 02:24:14 pm
He has undoubtedly advanced the conservative agenda, but he has not done so in a presidential manner.

OK we're gonna chuck it all because Trump gave a stupid answer at the Helsinki press conference.

If this is true then I will finally accept that I've been foolish to hope for a turnaraound from the trajectory of the past 50 years, the country is over, and wants & fully deserves whatever follows.

That's not the point.  His achievements to advance the conservative agenda end in November if there's a blue wave.   We need to be greedy, folks, and demand a President who's both conservative and Presidential (or at least can act Presidential for the next few months and get folks to focus on the economy.)
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Re: Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely.. By Jay Cost
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2018, 05:35:46 pm »
I guess we should have nominated Kasich.  We wouldn't have to worry about any of this because Hillary would have beaten him like a rented mule. :whistle:
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Re: Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely.. By Jay Cost
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2018, 01:23:57 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on July 31, 2018, 05:35:46 pm
I guess we should have nominated Kasich.  We wouldn't have to worry about any of this because Hillary would have beaten him like a rented mule. :whistle:

I think the ultimate in six dimensional chess would be for Trump to suspend his Tweet rants and golf outings until November 10, if only to put on a facade of being more “presidential”.

It would absolutely deflate the media’s message against Trump...maybe Mika will find the time to make an honest man out of Joe.
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Re: Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely.. By Jay Cost
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2018, 01:51:02 pm »
I'm just not seeing a blue wave.  I know that's what the MSM and dems are trying to achieve by repeatedly saying there will be a blue wave, but I don't think it's going to happen.
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Re: Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely.. By Jay Cost
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2018, 01:51:08 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on July 31, 2018, 05:35:46 pm
I guess we should have nominated Kasich.  We wouldn't have to worry about any of this because Hillary would have beaten him like a rented mule. :whistle:

The Trump who surprised everyone and won the WH is exactly the same one people are complaining about now.

Only with a record he (and the GOP) can run on and a popularity level higher than Obama at the same time in his administration.

But his critics are demanding he become more 'presidential'. Yeah lets do what they say.
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Re: Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely.. By Jay Cost
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2018, 01:54:14 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on August 02, 2018, 01:51:02 pm
I'm just not seeing a blue wave.  I know that's what the MSM and dems are trying to achieve by repeatedly saying there will be a blue wave, but I don't think it's going to happen.

I'm not seeing it either but the media and pundits sure want us to believe a blue wave is coming..and I am including conservative pundits as well
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Re: Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely.. By Jay Cost
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2018, 01:55:09 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on August 02, 2018, 01:51:08 pm
The Trump who surprised everyone and won the WH is exactly the same one people are complaining about now.

Only with a record he (and the GOP) can run on and a popularity level higher than Obama at the same time in his administration.

But his critics are demanding he become more 'presidential'. Yeah lets do what they say.

Why is it that you think Trump can't do both?

If he's the hero y'all think he is, he should be able to control his Tweet fingers and his mouth and still get all this conservative stuff done.

Right??
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Re: Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely.. By Jay Cost
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2018, 02:00:37 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on August 02, 2018, 01:54:14 pm
I'm not seeing it either but the media and pundits sure want us to believe a blue wave is coming..and I am including conservative pundits as well

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Re: Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely.. By Jay Cost
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2018, 02:01:31 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on August 02, 2018, 01:55:09 pm
Why is it that you think Trump can't do both?

If he's the hero y'all think he is, he should be able to control his Tweet fingers and his mouth and still get all this conservative stuff done.

Right??

Because I like most of what he's done so far doesn't make him my "hero", it earns him my support. But I think I understand why you must characterize him as such.

I didn't think he'd win. And if he won I didn't think he'd be as conservative as he's been.

I was wrong. Since I was wrong I think its silly to presume to offer him advice on how to behave now.

Make sense?
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Re: Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely.. By Jay Cost
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2018, 02:05:33 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on August 02, 2018, 02:01:31 pm
Because I like most of what he's done so far doesn't make him my "hero", it earns him my support. But I think I understand why you must characterize him as such.

I didn't think he'd win. And if he won I didn't think he'd be as conservative as he's been.

I was wrong. Since I was wrong I think its silly to presume to offer him advice on how to behave now.

Make sense?

Makes perfect sense to me!  I'm pretty much in the same boat.
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Re: Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely.. By Jay Cost
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2018, 02:12:21 pm »
Ah.... about that blue wave the idiot left is predicting and expecting....


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Re: Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely.. By Jay Cost
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2018, 02:17:50 pm »
Maybe the Democrats will do better in the mid-term, good but not great, being a very minor blue wave. One that will not have a great affect on the House and Senate and Governorships.
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Re: Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely.. By Jay Cost
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2018, 02:25:09 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on August 02, 2018, 02:01:31 pm
Because I like most of what he's done so far doesn't make him my "hero", it earns him my support. But I think I understand why you must characterize him as such.

I didn't think he'd win. And if he won I didn't think he'd be as conservative as he's been.

I was wrong. Since I was wrong I think its silly to presume to offer him advice on how to behave now.

Make sense?

Skeet, what you did (quite admirably) was sublimate your pride to your intellect, displacing petty emotions for reason. Eyes-on-the-prize thinking, my friend! Cheers!  :beer:
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Re: Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely.. By Jay Cost
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2018, 02:27:17 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on August 02, 2018, 01:55:09 pm
Why is it that you think Trump can't do both?

If he's the hero y'all think he is, he should be able to control his Tweet fingers and his mouth and still get all this conservative stuff done.  Right??

President Trump is going to be President Trump, and this is GREAT news!

After years of the pounding delivered to the President daily by liberals and conservatives who think they know better, 15,000 American voters showed up in the middle of the week to spend 60 minutes with the President.  6,000 of these souls were the overflow crowd who stood outside and listened to the President via large screen TVs and speakers. 

So, @musiclady don't take this personally, but the last thing the President needs to do is take advice from know-it-alls who keep missing the train.


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Re: Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely.. By Jay Cost
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2018, 02:28:10 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on August 02, 2018, 02:01:31 pm
Because I like most of what he's done so far doesn't make him my "hero", it earns him my support. But I think I understand why you must characterize him as such.

I didn't think he'd win. And if he won I didn't think he'd be as conservative as he's been.

I was wrong. Since I was wrong I think its silly to presume to offer him advice on how to behave now.

Make sense?

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Re: Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely.. By Jay Cost
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2018, 02:32:36 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on August 02, 2018, 02:25:09 pm
Skeet, what you did (quite admirably) was sublimate your pride to your intellect, displacing petty emotions for reason. Eyes-on-the-prize thinking, my friend! Cheers!  :beer:

Why not. Personally I've got nothing to lose & potentially alot to gain.
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Re: Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely.. By Jay Cost
« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2018, 02:37:47 pm »
Show me a poll where Independents, Dems women, and Millennials aren't oversampled in some way, and I might believe in the Blue Wave.

Until that happens, I'm inclined to believe in the one-fingered Red Wave.
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Re: Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely.. By Jay Cost
« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2018, 02:42:30 pm »
Blue wave cheer leader try outs have started.



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Re: Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely.. By Jay Cost
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2018, 02:52:52 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on August 02, 2018, 02:27:17 pm
So, @musiclady don't take this personally, but the last thing the President needs to do is take advice from know-it-alls who keep missing the train.

One trait of a "know-it-all" is to think you're too smart to accept constructive criticism.   The President, I fear, falls sometimes into this trap.   Those of us not fully on board the Trump train do not wish him ill - to the contrary, we see the terrible consequences of a Dem wave sidelining the next two years into a free-for-all regarding impeachment.   

Run on the economy,  Mr. President.  It is your greatest achievement.   The constant blowing on dog whistles is going to bite you, and the GOP, in the ass.   

(GREAT move, btw, re-upping with Gen. Kelly for chief of staff through 2020.   I think that shows the President WILL listen to advice from others. ) 
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Re: Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely.. By Jay Cost
« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2018, 02:56:05 pm »
All this talk about a 'Blue Wave' is freakin' Great! This is exactly how the Dems were talking about Hillary.
Remember, Hillary (according to all 'polls') was supposed to win by a hundred million to one.

We should encourage the so called 'Blue Wave'. Let the Dems chatter and gloat. I love it. This is in our favor. It stirs up the Republican base.

This is exactly how Trump won.
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Re: Why a Democratic Wave Looks Likely.. By Jay Cost
« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2018, 03:02:02 pm »
Quote from: 240B on August 02, 2018, 02:56:05 pm
All this talk about a 'Blue Wave' is freakin' Great! This is exactly how the Dems were talking about Hillary.
Remember, Hillary (according to all 'polls') was supposed to win by a hundred million to one.

We should encourage the so called 'Blue Wave'. Let the Dems chatter and gloat. I love it. This is in our favor. It stirs up the Republican base.

This is exactly how Trump won.

By all means, listen to those who 'know better'

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