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Book Review: Why Truman fired MacArthur
« on: July 28, 2018, 10:08:57 pm »
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Why Truman fired MacArthur
Harry Levins Special to the Post-Dispatch
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In October 1950, six months before President Harry S Truman sacked Gen. of the Army Douglas MacArthur, they had an amicable meeting on Wake Island as Truman presented a military decoration to the Supreme Allied Commander in the Far East.

H.W. Brands’ “The General vs. the President” pits Gen. Douglas MacArthur against President Harry S Truman. In the end, Truman won, sacking MacArthur from his Far East command in the spring of 1951, as the Korean War flared on.

But Brands — he teaches history at the University of Texas and has written several biographies and historical accounts — goes beyond the flareup in the spring of ’51. His subtitle takes the book far past Korea: “MacArthur and Truman at the Brink of Nuclear War.”


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Re: Book Review: Why Truman fired MacArthur
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2018, 10:33:13 pm »
   Very Interesting @TomSea  Thanks for taking the time to post it.

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The senators heard from Army Chief of Staff Omar Bradley that a wider war with China, as MacArthur wanted, “would involve us in the wrong war, in the wrong place, at the wrong time and with the wrong enemy.”

   Omar later became (WIKI).

Bradley also served as a member of President Lyndon Johnson's Wise Men, a high-level advisory group considering policy for the Vietnam War in 1967–68. Bradley was a hawk and recommended against withdrawal from Vietnam.

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Re: Book Review: Why Truman fired MacArthur
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2018, 10:55:00 pm »
MacArthur had the Chinese on the run and had to stop at the Yalow river.
Then the war changed after he was fired.

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Re: Book Review: Why Truman fired MacArthur
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2018, 11:01:30 pm »
MacArthur had the Chinese on the run and had to stop at the Yalow river.
Then the war changed after he was fired.

He had the Norks on the run. A million Chinese changed the wars complexion.

I wonder what Asia would be like today if he'd read the signs and pulled up short of the Yalu river, before the Chinese invaded.

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Re: Book Review: Why Truman fired MacArthur
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2018, 03:18:53 pm »
He had the Norks on the run. A million Chinese changed the wars complexion.

I wonder what Asia would be like today if he'd read the signs and pulled up short of the Yalu river, before the Chinese invaded.

Intelligence had noted the Chinese massing along the Yalu River. If MacArthur had not blown off their warnings and reset his deployments to set a trap for them, the war would have been won easily and with a united Korea under American protection.

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Re: Book Review: Why Truman fired MacArthur
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2018, 05:33:15 pm »
Why Truman fired MacArthur was to stop MacArthur from beating the hell out of the Chinese. (He had them on the run)

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Re: Book Review: Why Truman fired MacArthur
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2018, 12:19:33 pm »
Why Truman fired MacArthur was to stop MacArthur from beating the hell out of the Chinese. (He had them on the run)

Chinese troops were not fighting in the war at that point.

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Re: Book Review: Why Truman fired MacArthur
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2018, 06:02:01 pm »
Chinese troops were not fighting in the war at that point.
I'm going from memory. MacArthur had the Koreans on the run?
The Chinese took about ten divisions and sent them across the frozen over river.
We just shelled the river. Chinese were all gone by next morning..

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Re: Book Review: Why Truman fired MacArthur
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2018, 06:17:30 pm »
I'm going from memory. MacArthur had the Koreans on the run?
The Chinese took about ten divisions and sent them across the frozen over river.
We just shelled the river. Chinese were all gone by next morning..

MacArthur did have the Norks on the run and penned up in a small corner near Vladivostok. The Chinese massed their army in an area lightly defended by UN troops and when they attacked in mass human wave attacks at night, they soon overwhelmed the few troops stationed in that area. They now threatened MacArthur's flank and forced him to retreat. A lack of sufficient ground support aircraft allowed the Chinese to make fast headway, albeit with very heavy casualties, and the UN troops retreated back south of Seoul.

After Ridgeway took command, the started driving the Chinese back north to about the 38th parallel using what General Ridgeway called "meat grinder" tactics that used US superiority in artillery and aircraft to grind down the numerically superior Chinese before driving them out of an area. Truman then directed Ridgeway not to cross the 38th parallel and did not increase troop levels by what was needed to finish driving the Chinese back across the Yalu river. The stalemate ground on for another 18 months or so before the truce took effect in 1953.

It is estimated the Chinese suffered close to a million casualties in their close to 2 years in the war.