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Trump Org. CFO mentioned in Michael Cohen tape called by grand jury to testify: WSJ
  • A federal grand jury investigating President Donald Trump's former personal lawyer has subpoenaed the chief financial officer of Trump's company, Allen Weisselberg, to testify, a new report said Thursday.
  • The Wall Street Journal said that Weisselberg is considered a witness in the ongoing probe of Trump's ex-attorney Michael Cohen.
  • Weisselberg was mentioned by Cohen in a conversation that Cohen secretly recorded with Trump in September 2016 that discussed buying the rights to the story of Playboy model Karen McDougal, who claims she had an affair with the president. Audio of that conversation was aired earlier this week by CNN.
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A federal grand jury investigating President Donald Trump's former personal lawyer Michael Cohen for possible crimes has subpoenaed the chief financial officer of Trump's company, Allen Weisselberg, to testify, a new report said Thursday.

The Wall Street Journal, citing sources familiar with the case, said that Weisselberg, who is an executive of the Trump Organization, is considered a witness in the ongoing probe of Trump's ex-attorney Michael Cohen.

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Weisselberg, 70, was mentioned by Cohen in a conversation that Cohen secretly recorded with Trump in September 2016 that discussed buying the rights to the story of Playboy model Karen McDougal, who claims she had an affair with the president. The recording of that conversation was aired earlier this week by CNN.

Cohen is heard on the tape telling Trump that he needed to set up a company to make the payment, adding, "I've spoken to Allen Weisselberg about how to set the whole thing up."

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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/26/trump-org-cfo-called-to-grand-jury-to-testify-wsj.html
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So it looks like the cover up is what is going to cause all the actual legal and political damage...

All this would be history if Trump simply had said "ya, I was involved Stormy"... Many of his supporters would have liked him even more for doing a porn star...

Since they're digging into his businesses now, this could well explode with other sketchy transactions he's done. After all they can't ignore illegalities they happen to stumble across so they say...

This fishing expedition should have never happened in the first place but Trump is an obvious target rich prize once the barricades are breached and it looks they are being breached.

The bottom line is if you vote for a sleazeball you should expect the sleaze to ooze out and dirty the party. It was a choice.

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So it looks like the cover up is what is going to cause all the actual legal and political damage...

All this would be history if Trump simply had said "ya, I was involved Stormy"... Many of his supporters would have liked him even more for doing a porn star...

Since they're digging into his businesses now, this could well explode with other sketchy transactions he's done. After all they can't ignore illegalities they happen to stumble across so they say...

This fishing expedition should have never happened in the first place but Trump is an obvious target rich prize once the barricades are breached and it looks they are being breached.

The bottom line is if you vote for a sleazeball you should expect the sleaze to ooze out and dirty the party. It was a choice.

What Crime was involved in this so-called cover up??

Let's say for just a moment that there is proof that Trump paid off some stripper named Stormy to keep her mouth shut!

Where's the crime?

It is Not a crime if two Consenting Adults have a tryst!

It is not illegal to pay the other Consenting Adult to keep the affair a secret!

There has to be a crime committed and an exchange of money to a potential witness to keep quiet for it to be a criminal act!
That would be called bribery!
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What Crime was involved in this so-called cover up??

Let's say for just a moment that there is proof that Trump paid off some stripper named Stormy to keep her mouth shut!

Where's the crime?

It is Not a crime if two Consenting Adults have a tryst!

It is not illegal to pay the other Consenting Adult to keep the affair a secret!

There has to be a crime committed and an exchange of money to a potential witness to keep quiet for it to be a criminal act!
That would be called bribery!

You are smarter than that.

The attempted cover up of information that someone doesn't want made public is where the potential crime arises. It doesn't have to be covering up of a "crime" per se. There have been many cases, Valerie Plame is a prime example, where no crime was committed that leads to arrests for "crimes" of impeding the investigation, lying to investigators about something, etc.

Trump spent a lot money covering things up during the primary he didn't want made public. That's a fact. Having sex with a porn star isn't a crime as you said. Had he simply acknowledged that instead of lying about it we wouldn't be having this conversation. Its funny how lies get you deeper and deeper when you refuse to admit the truth.

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You are smarter than that.

The attempted cover up of information that someone doesn't want made public is where the potential crime arises. It doesn't have to be covering up of a "crime" per se. There have been many cases, Valerie Plame is a prime example, where no crime was committed that leads to arrests for "crimes" of impeding the investigation, lying to investigators about something, etc.

You Really don't have a clue do you?

Valerie Plame is your Prime Example?

The crime was Lying To Investigators by Scooter Libby!

Where did Trump lie to any investigators about Stormy Daniels?

BTW: The "Smarter Than That" statement should be directed to Constitutional Law Professor Alan Dershowitz or maybe even to Constitutional Law Professor Jonathan Turley since that is Their opinion that I tried to put into my own words!

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What Crime was involved in this so-called cover up??

There are possibilities. Who knows?

For example, if Cohen paid, like he claims, then it could be an illegal campaign contribution.
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You Really don't have a clue do you?

Valerie Plame is your Prime Example?

The crime was Lying To Investigators by Scooter Libby!

Where did Trump lie to any investigators about Stormy Daniels?

BTW: The "Smarter Than That" statement should be directed to Constitutional Law Professor Alan Dershowitz or maybe even to Constitutional Law Professor Jonathan Turley since that is Their opinion that I tried to put into my own words!

(Both Liberals btw)

Geeze...

It is you who doesn't "get it"... This is politics. Not a black and white legal issue. It isn't about an actual crime... It is about getting snagged on the snare of lying about things one is trying to hide in a politically motivated investigation that does people in.

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What Crime was involved in this so-called cover up??

Let's say for just a moment that there is proof that Trump paid off some stripper named Stormy to keep her mouth shut!

Where's the crime?

It is Not a crime if two Consenting Adults have a tryst!

It is not illegal to pay the other Consenting Adult to keep the affair a secret!

There has to be a crime committed and an exchange of money to a potential witness to keep quiet for it to be a criminal act!
That would be called bribery!

Based on the recordings released, if they created a shell company to hide payments for the specific purpose of sideskirting campaign finance regulations, a case could be made there was a felony violation there.

Someone will likely take the fall for that. I suspect in the end it will be Cohen.

Here is an example of just this:

http://m.startribune.com/state-gop-accused-of-campaign-finance-violations/136709483/
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...and remember, using shell corporations to hide funds from campaign finance regulations was one of the many things we went after the Clinton's over.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/clintons-omit-shell-company-filing-financial-records-article-1.2236364

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Based on the recordings released, if they created a shell company to hide payments for the specific purpose of sideskirting campaign finance regulations, a case could be made there was a felony violation there.

Someone will likely take the fall for that. I suspect in the end it will be Cohen.

Here is an example of just this:

http://m.startribune.com/state-gop-accused-of-campaign-finance-violations/136709483/

Amazing what people can fantasize from a 10 second, chopped up piece of audio where the only evidence heard is that TRUMP says he wants to pay (For Whatever) with a check and not cash!

Sounds like a paper trail has been established, on purpose for this fantasy of a crime to me!

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Amazing what people can fantasize from a 10 second, chopped up piece of audio where the only evidence heard is that TRUMP says he wants to pay (For Whatever) with a check and not cash!

Sounds like a paper trail has been established, on purpose for this fantasy of a crime to me!


The possible legal ramifications of the Daniels and McDougal deals were discussed long before this recording was heard.  Now, there may be an additional three that were paid off during the campaign season - one by the Enquirer and two by Cohen. 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/27/stormy-daniels-lawyer-avenatti-says-3-more-female-clients-claim-got-hush-money.amp.html
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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The possible legal ramifications of the Daniels and McDougal deals were discussed long before this recording was heard.  Now, there may be an additional three that were paid off during the campaign season - one by the Enquirer and two by Cohen. 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/27/stormy-daniels-lawyer-avenatti-says-3-more-female-clients-claim-got-hush-money.amp.html
AGAIN ... Show me a crime!

You, among others .. (CNN, MSNBC, some forum NeverTrumpers) are desperately trying to make this into something such as ... women being paid off with Campaign funds to keep quiet!

Being paid to keep quiet is not illegal.

I'm sure using campaign funds May be but ... Why would Trump insist on a paper trail if that were the case??

All you have are speculations by the lying media and NeverTrumpers!

No matter how many times everyone has been made a joke of by their false narratives .. They refuse to give up!

This whole "Investigation in search of a crime" is not only Illegal in itself but is totally UN-American!
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AGAIN ... Show me a crime!

You, among others .. (CNN, MSNBC, some forum NeverTrumpers) are desperately trying to make this into something such as ... women being paid off with Campaign funds to keep quiet!

Being paid to keep quiet is not illegal.


How those payments could constitute campaign-finance violations is simple: If they were made to help boost the president's campaign and keep damaging information hidden, it is an in-kind contribution to the campaign meant to benefit the candidate's political standing. The expenditure, which far exceeds the individual contribution limit, would need to be reported to the Federal Election Commission as a part of traditional campaign finance disclosures.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-legal-troubles-2018-5


This has been widely discussed since the payments became known.
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I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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AGAIN ... Show me a crime!

You, among others .. (CNN, MSNBC, some forum NeverTrumpers) are desperately trying to make this into something such as ... women being paid off with Campaign funds to keep quiet!

Being paid to keep quiet is not illegal.

I'm sure using campaign funds May be but ... Why would Trump insist on a paper trail if that were the case??

All you have are speculations by the lying media and NeverTrumpers!

No matter how many times everyone has been made a joke of by their false narratives .. They refuse to give up!

This whole "Investigation in search of a crime" is not only Illegal in itself but is totally UN-American!


I and (certainly) millions of others agree with you. This fiasco must cease, the joke has been going on long enough. Time for Mueller to wrap things up – for the good of the nation.

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I and (certainly) millions of others agree with you. This fiasco must cease, the joke has been going on long enough. Time for Mueller to wrap things up – for the good of the nation.
@aligncare

It will never happen as long as there are fantasies to investigate. :shrug:
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