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San Francisco Outlaws Plastic Straws, Stirrers
« on: July 25, 2018, 12:33:55 am »
San Francisco Outlaws Plastic Straws, Stirrers

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Update, 4:50 p.m. Tuesday:  San Francisco supervisors have unanimously approved a ban on plastic straws and some takeout containers. The legislation requires a second vote next week.

Original post: In a bid to further cut down on waste, eco-conscious San Francisco is expected to join Seattle in outlawing plastic straws used to suck down Mai Tais and slurp up bubble tea.

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Re: San Francisco Outlaws Plastic Straws, Stirrers
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2018, 12:38:03 am »
San Francisco Outlaws Plastic Straws, Stirrers

https://www.kqed.org/science/1927896/san-francisco-to-consider-outlawing-plastic-straws-stirrers

But poo is organic.....

Yeah.... but last I checked..... contact with plastic straws is not a life-threatening or health-threatening event, unlike human contact with human excrement.   Further proof, therefore, that the idiot left is collectively clinically insane.
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Re: San Francisco Outlaws Plastic Straws, Stirrers
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2018, 12:42:03 am »
Yeah.... but last I checked..... contact with plastic straws is not a life-threatening or health-threatening event, unlike human contact with human excrement.   Further proof, therefore, that the idiot left is collectively clinically insane.
Contact with humans in SF may be a life threatening event. I'd sooner take up combat arms at my age than be an EMS person in SF.
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Re: San Francisco Outlaws Plastic Straws, Stirrers
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2018, 12:45:26 am »
Contact with humans in SF may be a life threatening event. I'd sooner take up combat arms at my age than be an EMS person in SF.

Ditto that.   You couldn't pay me to even visit SF.
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Re: San Francisco Outlaws Plastic Straws, Stirrers
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2018, 06:24:52 pm »

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Only in America is murdering healthy children legal until the moment of birth, while using plastic straws can put you behind bars.
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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2018, 06:27:50 pm »
This is why the issue has traction:

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Re: San Francisco Outlaws Plastic Straws, Stirrers
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2018, 06:29:57 pm »
How are these people going to snort a big fat rail now?   
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Re: San Francisco Outlaws Plastic Straws, Stirrers
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2018, 06:31:53 pm »
Sea turtles have no business snorting cocaine.
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Re: San Francisco Outlaws Plastic Straws, Stirrers
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2018, 07:22:12 pm »
Yeah.... but last I checked..... contact with plastic straws is not a life-threatening or health-threatening event, unlike human contact with human excrement.   Further proof, therefore, that the idiot left is collectively clinically insane.
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Re: San Francisco Outlaws Plastic Straws, Stirrers
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2018, 10:36:41 pm »
More about the sea turtle in reply 5 above:
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My research team found a male Olive Ridley sea turtle during an in-water research trip in Costa Rica.
He had a 10-12 cm PLASTIC STRAW lodged in his nostril.

After initially thinking that we are looking at a parasitic worm, and trying to remove it to identify it, we cut a small piece off to investigate further and finally identified what we were REALLY looking at.

After a short debate about what we should do we removed it with the plier of a swiss army knife which was the only tool available on our small boat (not intended for overnight stays), since we were on the ocean, in a developing country, a few hours away from the coast and several hours away from any vet (probably days from any vet specialised in reptiles, not to mention sea turtles) and x-ray machines. Plus, we would have incurred a penalty (up to time in jail) on ourselves by removing the turtle since that is beyond our research permits. He did very obviously not enjoy the procedure very much, but we hope that he is now able to breath more freely.

The blood from the shoulder is from a 6mm skin biopsy we took previously to this event for a genetic study (part of our permitted research), which usually doesn't bleed much, but which started bleeding while restraining the turtle.

We disinfected the air passageway with iodine and kept the turtle for observation before releasing him back into the wild.

The bleeding stopped pretty much immediately after the removal of the straw, and when we released him, he swam happily away.

The turtle very likely swallowed the straw while ingesting other food items and then either expelled the straw together with the redundant sea water through her nostrils, or regurgitated the straw and it ended up in the wrong passageway.  The nasal cavity of sea turtles is connected directly to the palate (roof of the mouth) by a long nasopharyngeal duct.
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There was a time when most municipalities BURNED their garbage.
Created some smoke, of course, but after that, the garbage was gone.

Might be time to think of that again, using high temperatures to let very few particulates  escape...

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Re: San Francisco Outlaws Plastic Straws, Stirrers
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2018, 11:59:16 pm »
Might be time to think of that again, using high temperatures to let very few particulates  escape...

An Incinerator Becomes Harrisburg’s Money Pit
By MICHAEL COOPERMAY 20, 2010


Harrisburg, Pa., went $125 million in debt trying to turn its incinerator into a moneymaker. Credit Jessica Kourkounis for The New York Times

HARRISBURG, Pa. — Officials here decided seven years ago to borrow $125 million to rebuild and expand the city’s enormous trash incinerator, which the federal government had shut down because of toxic air pollution.

But the incinerator burned through the money faster than the trash, leaving Harrisburg residents feeling like they were living through a sequel to the 1986 movie “The Money Pit.”

There were contractor troubles, delays, cost overruns and squabbles. The city borrowed tens of millions more, shoveling good money after bad into the job.

It is now done, but at a staggering cost that threatens to bankrupt Pennsylvania’s capital.

The incinerator, which the city had hoped to turn into a moneymaker, is instead $288 million in debt. [...]
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Re: San Francisco Outlaws Plastic Straws, Stirrers
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2018, 12:37:53 am »
Done correctly, incineration of trash saves money and can even generate electricity.
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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2018, 12:41:08 am »
Done correctly, incineration of trash saves money and can even generate electricity.



Now, now, now....don't be gettin' all logical. Don't you know we are supposed to be cheering?

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Re: San Francisco Outlaws Plastic Straws, Stirrers
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2018, 12:43:09 am »

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Get this.

You can't use plastic straws in California, but you can shoot up with plastic syringes provided by their government, create tent cities that leave trash anywhere they want, & defecate in the streets.

How does that work for the environment?
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Re: San Francisco Outlaws Plastic Straws, Stirrers
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2018, 01:05:11 am »
Educating Liberals
‏ @Education4Libs  10h10 hours ago

Get this.

You can't use plastic straws in California, but you can shoot up with plastic syringes provided by their government, create tent cities that leave trash anywhere they want, & defecate in the streets.

How does that work for the environment?




None of this makes much sense to me. California is a beautiful state. Why they are ruining that beauty evades me. I went to San Francisco about 20 years ago. Beautiful city. I wouldn't spend my time there today.

O.K. guys...run off your tourist industry...good plan.

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Re: San Francisco Outlaws Plastic Straws, Stirrers
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2018, 02:54:58 pm »
So, are straws illegal, or merely undocumented?

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Re: San Francisco Outlaws Plastic Straws, Stirrers
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2018, 04:04:47 pm »
When plastic straws are outlawed, only outlaws will have plastic straws! Anyone old enough to remember trying to drink a thick shake or malt at a real malt shop through paper straws? Hell anyone remember a real alt shop? Ours was Hamms on Atlantic Blvd. in Lynwood, CA. back when when Lynwood was an All America City, before it became Tijuana Del Norte.

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Re: San Francisco Outlaws Plastic Straws, Stirrers
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2018, 04:43:09 pm »
An Incinerator Becomes Harrisburg’s Money Pit
By MICHAEL COOPERMAY 20, 2010


The incinerator, which the city had hoped to turn into a moneymaker, is instead $288 million in debt. [...]


My 2 cents:
The problem from the start was this boondoggle was headed up by the City Gov.    Had Private investment and management been in charge the results could have and probably would have been different.
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Re: San Francisco Outlaws Plastic Straws, Stirrers
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2018, 05:01:16 pm »
How long until, "comp my meal or I'll call the police and tell them (pulls straw out of pocket) you offered me this!"   *****rollingeyes*****