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Re: 2.5 Billion Pounds of Meat Piles Up in U.S. as Production Grows, Exports Slow
« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2018, 01:49:07 am »
Quote from: roamer_1 on July 24, 2018, 01:29:26 am
Those lands would do nothing but lie fallow otherwise. And no one else is going to use it. You and the bunny-huggers seem to be the only ones who have a problem with it.

You misspelled "conservatives".  You know, those who don't like handouts to businesses on the taxpayers' backs. 

Did you even read the paper I linked?

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Hey, I got an idea, Howabout the feds give the land back to the states as the Constitution demands? Then Montana can deal with its open range as it sees fit. And you can stop thinking it is any of your business.

The feds have tried multiple times!  Recall that the states didn't want the expense when they could dump the costs federally.
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Re: 2.5 Billion Pounds of Meat Piles Up in U.S. as Production Grows, Exports Slow
« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2018, 01:51:07 am »
Quote from: jmyrlefuller on July 24, 2018, 01:45:56 am
It gives that rancher an expensive lesson he should have learned in middle school: BUY LOW, SELL HIGH!

Right... and the tariff was predictable how? most of that beef has already been on the hoof for two years.

Just wait. this is good for you now, but wait till you see the price per pound once the system clears out. Ranchers will sit on their cattle, because they'll have to... They won't go to slaughter till the price comes up enough not to lose their azzez. Then we'll see how you like it.
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Re: 2.5 Billion Pounds of Meat Piles Up in U.S. as Production Grows, Exports Slow
« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2018, 01:54:57 am »
Quote from: Suppressed on July 24, 2018, 01:49:07 am
You misspelled "conservatives". 

Oh hell no, I didn't

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You know, those who don't like handouts to businesses on the taxpayers' backs. 

You don't know what you're talking about.

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Did you even read the paper I linked?

I don't have to. The BLM is a four letter word everywhere west of the Mississippi

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The feds have tried multiple times!  Recall that the states didn't want the expense when they could dump the costs federally.

There is no try. Only do.
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Re: 2.5 Billion Pounds of Meat Piles Up in U.S. as Production Grows, Exports Slow
« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2018, 02:14:40 am »
Guess I need to invest some in Texas Roadhouse, ranked the #1 chain restaurant in the US.

Falling price of beef must make their margins terrific lately.

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-20-best-chain-restaurants-in-america-2016-7#1-texas-roadhouse-20
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Re: 2.5 Billion Pounds of Meat Piles Up in U.S. as Production Grows, Exports Slow
« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2018, 02:17:20 am »
Quote from: Suppressed on July 24, 2018, 01:24:09 am
Leased at far below the market rate.

When government owns 90% of the land, they are setting the market rate.

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Yeah, for every dollar collected in fees, $2.50 is spent..
This goes to show that government is a disaster when it comes to business.  No different from Amtrak.  The government fails miserably every time when it comes to creating wealth.  We would all be better of if they simply gave the land away.
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Re: 2.5 Billion Pounds of Meat Piles Up in U.S. as Production Grows, Exports Slow
« Reply #30 on: July 24, 2018, 02:24:18 am »
I don't think the Chinese people will miss our meat exports.  Their dogs may, however.
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Re: 2.5 Billion Pounds of Meat Piles Up in U.S. as Production Grows, Exports Slow
« Reply #31 on: July 24, 2018, 02:24:40 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on July 24, 2018, 02:17:20 am
When government owns 90% of the land, they are setting the market rate.
This goes to show that government is a disaster when it comes to business.  No different from Amtrak.  The government fails miserably every time when it comes to creating wealth.  We would all be better of if they simply gave the land away.

That's right.
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« Reply #32 on: July 24, 2018, 02:25:15 am »
   Terrible time to be a Vegan.
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Re: 2.5 Billion Pounds of Meat Piles Up in U.S. as Production Grows, Exports Slow
« Reply #33 on: July 24, 2018, 02:38:20 am »
Quote from: corbe on July 24, 2018, 02:25:15 am
   Terrible time to be a Vegan.

I've got a hind quarter of an elk left, a deer, and about half a beef in the freezer... And about 40 lbs of beef burger... 20 lbs of bison burger, about 20 chickens, 20 lbs of processed chicken, about 10 grouse, 6 chinks, 10 ducks, a whole passel of ptarmigan and quail... I have no idea how many trout, salmon, perch, bass and pike... and that's without the canned meats...

I'll be alright for a bit.
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Re: 2.5 Billion Pounds of Meat Piles Up in U.S. as Production Grows, Exports Slow
« Reply #34 on: July 24, 2018, 02:48:19 am »
Quote from: jmyrlefuller on July 23, 2018, 08:22:30 pm
Must be the bird flu, porcine diarrhea and drop that drove meat prices up over the past few years have finally let up.

Feed corn got really expensive because so much is being turned into ethanol.  My wife watches the commodity markets, and she saw a huge balloon in corn prices coming a couple years ack, so we bought a larger freezer and a crap ton of beef.
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Re: 2.5 Billion Pounds of Meat Piles Up in U.S. as Production Grows, Exports Slow
« Reply #35 on: July 24, 2018, 02:49:55 am »
Quote from: roamer_1 on July 24, 2018, 01:51:07 am
Right... and the tariff was predictable how? most of that beef has already been on the hoof for two years.

Just wait. this is good for you now, but wait till you see the price per pound once the system clears out. Ranchers will sit on their cattle, because they'll have to... They won't go to slaughter till the price comes up enough not to lose their azzez. Then we'll see how you like it.
Actually, I just sent one to the butcher to take up some more freezer space.  That heifer never made it to the auction house.
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Re: 2.5 Billion Pounds of Meat Piles Up in U.S. as Production Grows, Exports Slow
« Reply #36 on: July 24, 2018, 02:53:40 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on July 24, 2018, 02:48:19 am
Feed corn got really expensive because so much is being turned into ethanol.  My wife watches the commodity markets, and she saw a huge balloon in corn prices coming a couple years ack, so we bought a larger freezer and a crap ton of beef.

LOL, we did that as well, then ate it all... :silly: :silly:
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Re: 2.5 Billion Pounds of Meat Piles Up in U.S. as Production Grows, Exports Slow
« Reply #37 on: July 24, 2018, 03:49:58 am »
Quote from: roamer_1 on July 24, 2018, 02:38:20 am
I've got a hind quarter of an elk left, a deer, and about half a beef in the freezer... And about 40 lbs of beef burger... 20 lbs of bison burger, about 20 chickens, 20 lbs of processed chicken, about 10 grouse, 6 chinks, 10 ducks, a whole passel of ptarmigan and quail... I have no idea how many trout, salmon, perch, bass and pike... and that's without the canned meats...

I'll be alright for a bit.

Ain't you supposed to throw them back in the river?   :nometalk:
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Re: 2.5 Billion Pounds of Meat Piles Up in U.S. as Production Grows, Exports Slow
« Reply #38 on: July 24, 2018, 03:55:34 am »
Quote from: RoosGirl on July 24, 2018, 03:49:58 am
Ain't you supposed to throw them back in the river?   :nometalk:

They can't swim that good. They ain't got the buoyancy.....or so I've been told.
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« Reply #39 on: July 24, 2018, 04:01:01 am »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on July 24, 2018, 02:49:55 am
Actually, I just sent one to the butcher to take up some more freezer space.  That heifer never made it to the auction house.

Mine was put down a touch young... He come up lame, and by the time the doc was done, it was gonna cost too much to put him on all four for 4 more months... So we counted the grain fed stall time as finish and put him down.  :shrug:

And yeah, he never left the farm either. Can't afford the butcher anymore...
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« Reply #40 on: July 24, 2018, 04:03:20 am »
Quote from: RoosGirl on July 24, 2018, 03:49:58 am
Ain't you supposed to throw them back in the river?   :nometalk:

LOL! Sorry... Chinese Pheasant... That's what they're called out here...  :shrug:
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« Reply #41 on: July 24, 2018, 04:06:13 am »
Quote from: roamer_1 on July 24, 2018, 04:03:20 am
LOL! Sorry... Chinese Pheasant... That's what they're called out here...  :shrug:

Never heard em called Chinese Pheasant either, though I know that's their origin.  Just Pheasant.  Y'all northerners got weird accents *and* weird names for things.
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« Reply #42 on: July 24, 2018, 04:08:14 am »
Quote from: RoosGirl on July 24, 2018, 04:06:13 am
Never heard em called Chinese Pheasant either, though I know that's their origin.  Just Pheasant.  Y'all northerners got weird accents *and* weird names for things.

Did I ever tell you how the first Chinese Pheasant came to America?
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« Reply #43 on: July 24, 2018, 04:13:23 am »
Quote from: roamer_1 on July 24, 2018, 04:08:14 am
Did I ever tell you how the first Chinese Pheasant came to America?

That sounds like a really interesting story!  I bet after you tell it you'd like me to tell you about the first pecan grove in Georgia.
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« Reply #44 on: July 24, 2018, 04:20:21 am »
Quote from: RoosGirl on July 24, 2018, 04:13:23 am
That sounds like a really interesting story!  I bet after you tell it you'd like me to tell you about the first pecan grove in Georgia.

Nah. I have no idea how the first Chinese Pheasant came to America.
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« Reply #45 on: July 24, 2018, 04:23:26 am »
Quote from: RoosGirl on July 24, 2018, 04:06:13 am
Never heard em called Chinese Pheasant either, though I know that's their origin.  Just Pheasant.  Y'all northerners got weird accents *and* weird names for things.

And as a point of order... Westerner. Ain't no north west of the Mississippi. It's all just West or Midwest... and Texas.
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« Reply #46 on: July 24, 2018, 04:33:57 am »
Quote from: roamer_1 on July 24, 2018, 04:23:26 am
And as a point of order... Westerner. Ain't no north west of the Mississippi. It's all just West or Midwest... and Texas.

Do you know where I'm from?  People in the deep South are northerners compared to me.
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« Reply #47 on: July 24, 2018, 04:38:09 am »
Quote from: RoosGirl on July 24, 2018, 04:33:57 am
Do you know where I'm from?  People in the deep South are northerners compared to me.

Which is why I forgive you darlin... But north is above the Mason Dixon Line.. Wouldn't want folks confusing me with a Yankee. Though I ain't a damn Yankee for sure, as I hear tell they're all down in Florida.
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« Reply #48 on: July 24, 2018, 04:40:57 am »
Quote from: roamer_1 on July 24, 2018, 04:38:09 am
Which is why I forgive you darlin... But north is above the Mason Dixon Line.. Wouldn't want folks confusing me with a Yankee. Though I ain't a damn Yankee for sure, as I hear tell they're all down in Florida.

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« Reply #49 on: July 24, 2018, 04:44:48 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on July 24, 2018, 02:48:19 am
Feed corn got really expensive because so much is being turned into ethanol.  My wife watches the commodity markets, and she saw a huge balloon in corn prices coming a couple years ack, so we bought a larger freezer and a crap ton of beef.

Is that why the price of feed corn dropped by over 60% shortly after the ethanol mandate was originally established, or why I'm buying sweet corn at about half the price I did this time last year?

Seriously, I hate government mandated ethanol just about as much as anybody.  Almost as much as people repeating BS arguments against it.  There are plenty of REAL arguments against it -- we don't need to water them down with nonsense.
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