The Trump Era and Dumb Conservatism: When “Owning the Libs” Is Your Only Goal

[Sanguine]

What is Caesar's that is not Yahovah's? Caesar did not even own the breath in his own lungs, nor the lungs themselves. Think on that passage with that in mind. Otherwise you will wind up in that silly notion that bad people can do good things. That the end justifies the means. That principle things, TRUE things, don't matter anymore.

Well $3T  (some are saying $5T) more debt upon our great grandchildren comes to mind for starters...

More importantly, what has he done to secure the blessings of liberty? EO's are transient, and little more than red meat for his followers (see Geo, W, Bush administration)... What has he done that we get to keep?

 

[INVAR]

roamer asks?
"What is power without principles?"

I don't particularly care about "principles", "scruples", "morals", or any of that crap.
If we can have power with them as well, all the better.
But... if all we can have is "just the power" (without the rest)... that's still fine with me.

You shall have exactly what Robespierre and France received when they achieved exactly what it is that is fine with you.


It is amazing to me to read all the self-identifying "Conservatives" out there who are just fine and dandy with totalitarianism as long as it is THEIR guy and THEIR party who get to wield it.

I think that mindset virtually guarantees a frightening near-future that given when one reads what is out there regarding this subject, I think we will make the despots of last century blush.

[TomSea]

Many men fought and died for our democracy and the right to vote.  There is no reason to listen to scoundrels that would deride that right.

[TomSea]

Never Trumpers are on the sidelines, pro-life measures, 2nd amendment law discussed, thanks for nothing. Don't tell us what evil is.

[roamer_1]

Many men fought and died for our democracy and the right to vote.  There is no reason to listen to scoundrels that would deride that right.

Of course not. Vote the scoundrels into office.

[INVAR]

Never Trumpers are on the sidelines, pro-life measures, 2nd amendment law discussed, thanks for nothing. Don't tell us what evil is.

Based on what you people have promised us - it is YOU who will be visiting evil upon us when 'the time comes'.

[Sanguine]

Many men fought and died for our democracy and the right to vote.  There is no reason to listen to scoundrels that would deride that right.

No, they didn't, Tom.  Many men (and women) did fight for our Republic however.

[Bigun]

No, they didn't, Tom.  Many men (and women) did fight for our Republic however.

@Sanguine

Thank you!  I tend to not pay much attention to anyone who persists in calling our country a "Democracy" because they have already told me that they don't know what they are talking about.

[skeeter]

Of course not. Vote the scoundrels into office.

But you have no realistic suggestions as to what can be done. Just derision.

[Axeslinger]

Never Trumpers are on the sidelines, pro-life measures, 2nd amendment law discussed, thanks for nothing. Don't tell us what evil is.

@TomSea

I’d say a pretty good definition of EVIL would be accusing others of defending child ABUSE based upon no evidence and in fact merely based upon the fact that they disagree with you about a politician.

What do you think Tom?  Think that qualifies as evil?  Because I sure as hell do.

[roamer_1]

But you have no realistic suggestions as to what can be done. Just derision.

The realistic suggestion is to start voting for Conservatives. And ONLY Conservatives. The principles we stand upon are all that unite us, and the minute it is not about those principles is the minute it becomes mere Republican-ism. That rah-rah bullshit means absolutely nothing. That is why you have a bi-polarized party. That is why you haven't done a damn thing for Conservatism in 30 years. Winning is about those principles, not the big rhinestone 'R'.

[Right_in_Virginia]

It is amazing to me to read all the self-identifying "Conservatives" out there who are just fine and dandy with totalitarianism as long as it is THEIR guy and THEIR party who get to wield it.   

What totalitarianism do you see under President Trump @INVAR ?  Be specific.

Sometimes I think you just throw words around hoping something finally sticks.

[dfwgator]

What totalitarianism do you see under President Trump @INVAR ?  Be specific.

Have you ever seen a President with MORE opposition than what Trump has faced?  Where are the arrests for sedition?  Where is the suppression of the Press?

Some dictator!

[roamer_1]

Have you ever seen a President with MORE opposition than what Trump has faced?  Where are the arrests for sedition?  Where is the suppression of the Press?

Some dictator!

Dubya got exactly the same treatment.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Have you ever seen a President with MORE opposition than what Trump has faced?  Where are the arrests for sedition?  Where is the suppression of the Press?

Some dictator! 

I swear it feels like the world is inside out.  President Trump is the one trying to rebalance this nation away from a central government and he catching shit from every corner.

[roamer_1]

No, they didn't, Tom.  Many men (and women) did fight for our Republic however.

That's right.

[skeeter]

The realistic suggestion is to start voting for Conservatives. And ONLY Conservatives. The principles we stand upon are all that unite us, and the minute it is not about those principles is the minute it becomes mere Republican-ism. That rah-rah bullshit means absolutely nothing. That is why you have a bi-polarized party. That is why you haven't done a damn thing for Conservatism in 30 years. Winning is about those principles, not the big rhinestone 'R'.

I’ve been doing that for 40 years. But I don’t get to pick our candidate by myself. So I make the most of the choices at election time, cause I’m not going to sit out and watch Hillary Clinton win.

Honestly after 20 months of fire and brimstone sermons from those more righteous than I still don’t know why that seems to outrage some of you guys.

[corbe]

   

Dubya got exactly the same treatment.

   AND so would have anyone with a (R) behind their name the Trumpers act like this frontal assault from the msm is unprecedented and UNFAIR, damnit!   (clutch some pearls)
   If only they'd spend half their 'Dry Powder' on libs instead of us #Nevers (whatever that is) they would be in a much better position going into the Midterms. #MAGA

[Right_in_Virginia]

Dubya got exactly the same treatment.

No.  No President, not even Reagan, has received the unrelenting attacks, disrespect, threats and subversion as President Trump.

And yet he stands.  He moves forward.  Donald Trump meant when he said:

I am your voice.

So to every parent who dreams for their child, and every child who dreams for their future, I say these words to you tonight: I’m With You, and I will fight for you, and I will win for you.

To all Americans tonight, in all our cities and towns, I make this promise: We Will Make America Strong Again.

We Will Make America Proud Again.

We Will Make America Safe Again.

And We Will Make America Great Again.

[dfwgator]

   
   AND so would have anyone with a (R) behind their name the Trumpers act like this frontal assault from the msm is unprecedented and UNFAIR, damnit!   (clutch some pearls)
   If only they'd spend half their 'Dry Powder' on libs instead of us #Nevers (whatever that is) they would be in a much better position going into the Midterms. #MAGA

But that's the point, Dubya never defended himself and that's what rendered him ineffective.

[Right_in_Virginia]

   
   AND so would have anyone with a (R) behind their name the Trumpers act like this frontal assault from the msm is unprecedented and UNFAIR, damnit!   

It is.  No one has taken with this man has taken .... and still he fights.

[skeeter]

   
   AND so would have anyone with a (R) behind their name the Trumpers act like this frontal assault from the msm is unprecedented and UNFAIR, damnit!   (clutch some pearls)
   If only they'd spend half their 'Dry Powder' on libs instead of us #Nevers (whatever that is) they would be in a much better position going into the Midterms. #MAGA

You mean we’d be in a better position.

[Right_in_Virginia]

You mean we’d be in a better position.

But he doesn't.

[roamer_1]

No.  No President, not even Reagan, has received the unrelenting attacks, disrespect, threats and subversion as President Trump.

Oh, bullcrap! He makes half his problems or more with his own dang mouth.

And yet he stands.  He moves forward.  Donald Trump meant when he said:

[roamer_1]

   
   AND so would have anyone with a (R) behind their name the Trumpers act like this frontal assault from the msm is unprecedented and UNFAIR, damnit!   (clutch some pearls)
   If only they'd spend half their 'Dry Powder' on libs instead of us #Nevers (whatever that is) they would be in a much better position going into the Midterms. #MAGA

That's right. SOSDD