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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #125 on: July 21, 2018, 02:44:38 am »
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani said Friday that President Donald Trump did not know he was secretly taped by ex-lawyer Michael Cohen as they discussed a possible payment to an ex-Playboy model over an alleged affair, according to news reports.

CNN reported Friday that Giuliani, now a member of Trump's personal legal team, said Trump learned earlier this week of the tape, which was first disclosed by The New York Times.

Giuliani told the cable network that telephone conversation was recorded in September 2016 at Trump Tower, where Trump's campaign offices were located.

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Sounds like Cohen took out an insurance policy to cover himself in the event he found himself thrown under a bus.
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #126 on: July 21, 2018, 01:47:52 pm »

Weirdly enough, it’s about an arrangement made by a Trump ally just before an election to quash an embarrassing story. 

Weirdly enough a porn star targeted a billionaire for money.  I think you're right  .. we need to stop the presses for this!

Every day hundreds of nuisance cases are settled.  The money is paid to make the nuisance go away.  The check includes a non-disparagement/disclosure agreement to make sure of it.

You've got to dust off the old Nikes and walk around real people in the real world. It will do amazing things for your myopic worldview.

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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #127 on: July 21, 2018, 01:50:26 pm »
Oh no...she’s still a PITA (said with nothing but love @Right_in_Virginia ), she’s just absolutely right here!

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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #128 on: July 21, 2018, 02:48:08 pm »
Weirdly enough a porn star targeted a billionaire for money.  I think you're right  .. we need to stop the presses for this!

Every day hundreds of nuisance cases are settled.  The money is paid to make the nuisance go away.  The check includes a non-disparagement/disclosure agreement to make sure of it.

You've got to dust off the old Nikes and walk around real people in the real world. It will do amazing things for your myopic worldview.


Exactly who targeted whom?  Both McDougal and Daniels were brought to Trump by Schiller.  The fact the guy is a moral disaster surprises absolutely nobody.  That he would hire lawyers like Cohn and Cohen to be his version of Pelicano doesn't, either.  I associate with real people on a daily basis.  Strangely, the number of them throughout my life who have been associated with the porn industry is zero.  That's the type of myopia I'd prefer to keep, thank you.
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #129 on: July 21, 2018, 02:53:40 pm »
I'll take it!  @Axeslinger   88devil

You two really need to get a room!     :silly: :silly: :silly:
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #130 on: July 21, 2018, 03:37:47 pm »
“Inconceivable that the government would break into a lawyer’s office (early in the morning) - almost unheard of,” Trump tweeted, in an apparent reference to an FBI raid on Cohen in April.

“Even more inconceivable that a lawyer would tape a client - totally unheard of & perhaps illegal. The good news is that your favorite President did nothing wrong!”


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-politics-trump/trump-denies-wrongdoing-says-lawyers-tape-perhaps-illegal-idUSKBN1KB0FF





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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #131 on: July 21, 2018, 05:11:46 pm »
   What I find inconceivable is that a so called 'Billionaire' would hire a no talent hack like Cohen to handle such 'delicate' issues. 
   I, for one, welcome our new puzzygate overlords, after all, he brought it all on himself.  #MAGA
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #132 on: July 21, 2018, 05:44:41 pm »
What I find inconceivable is that a so called 'Billionaire' would hire a no talent hack like Cohen to handle such 'delicate' issues.  I, for one, welcome our new puzzygate overlords, after all, he brought it all on himself.  #MAGA


You would’ve really loved his predecessor – a disbarred, criminal, boy lover that died from AIDS.  I’m sure whatever dirty work Roy Cohn did disappeared like Hoover’s files.
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« Reply #133 on: July 21, 2018, 05:49:32 pm »
This is better than the old soap operas...... :whistle:

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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #134 on: July 21, 2018, 06:48:42 pm »
That seared conscience thing you people display is a thing to behold!

You people hate being reminded about principles, virtue and morality as much as the Godless Left does.

Bingo... Invar. Moral high ground be damned, that is for losers.

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..snip...The Wall Street Journal reported in November 2016 that McDougal was paid $150,000 by American Media Inc. — the parent company to the National Enquirer — for the rights to the story, but it never ran. McDougal has sued AMI, alleging Cohen was secretly involved in those discussions. The lawsuit was settled in April.... {rest at article linked below}........

https://constitution.com/trump-lawyer-cohens-dirty-tricks-against-the-donald-disclosed/

So the National Enquirer brokers stories depending on how much the parties will pay (or they figure the story will help sell rags). Trump has inside scoop with Cohen as his lawyer to prevent stories from running. Now flashback with the N.E. running a story on Cruz claiming multiple mistresses (bs story that came out in the middle of the election helping Trump). Wonder just how much a hand Trump had getting that story published?

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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #135 on: July 21, 2018, 08:44:41 pm »
Trump attorneys waive privilege on secret recording about ex-Playmate payment

(CNN) President Donald Trump's lawyers have waived attorney-client privilege on his behalf regarding a secretly recorded conversation he had in September 2016 with his former longtime lawyer Michael Cohen in which they discussed payments to an ex-Playboy model who says she had an affair with the President, according to sources familiar with the matter.

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The prosecutors working on the case had not reviewed the recording because it, along with millions of other documents and files seized in FBI searches of Cohen's home, hotel room and office in April, was undergoing the special master process, in which an independent party reviews whether the items should be regarded as privileged and thus withheld from prosecutors. The special master had designated the recording as privileged, according to two sources familiar with the process, but Trump's lawyers subsequently waived their right to maintain that designation.


https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/21/politics/trump-cohen-recording-privilege/index.html


Well, I guess we know who leaked it, now.  Given the 'exculpatory' statement by Rudy, it seems like they wanted to get out in front with their message.
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #136 on: July 21, 2018, 10:01:46 pm »
Rev. Robert Jeffress Defends Trump Amid Tape Chaos: We Also Supported ‘Known Womanizer’ Ronald Reagan

by Joseph A. Wulfsohn | 12:01 am, July 21st, 2018

 
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“This is not an unusual thing. We’ve been here before,” Jeffress told Fox News’ Ed Henry. “Back in 1980, evangelicals chose to support a twice-married Hollywood actor who was a known womanizer in Hollywood. His name was Ronald Reagan. They chose to support him over Jimmy Carter, with a born-again Baptist Sunday school teacher who had been faithfully married to one woman. The reason we supported President Reagan was not because we supporting womanizing or divorce. We supported his policies. And that’s true here, Ed. We are choosing to support his policies. We’re not under any illusion that we were voting for an altar boy when we voted for President Trump. We knew about his past. And by the way, none of us has a perfect past. We voted for him because of his policies.”

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/rev-robert-jeffress-defends-trump-amid-tape-chaos-we-also-supported-known-womanizer-ronald-reagan/
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #137 on: July 21, 2018, 10:42:48 pm »
Well, they should make sure in the future that they vote for the most egregious womanizer, liar, malcontent, backstabber and lawless person they find, so they can crow about the fact that they did 'not vote for an altar boy', so as to justify all the bullshit and consequences that follow.

After all, you can always trust an adulterous liar to keep his campaign promises and his oath of office, right?
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #138 on: July 21, 2018, 11:36:24 pm »
Well, they should make sure in the future that they vote for the most egregious womanizer, liar, malcontent, backstabber and lawless person they find, so they can crow about the fact that they did 'not vote for an altar boy', so as to justify all the bullshit and consequences that follow.

After all, you can always trust an adulterous liar to keep his campaign promises and his oath of office, right?

The one thing I have never seen a Trump devotee admit is that being a serial adulterer means that you repeatedly have violated the most important promise/vow of a lifetime.  There is no way to trust a man who is repeatedly unfaithful.

And I have never seen any of them admit that they most likely condemned Bill Clinton as untrustworthy because of his dalliances (much more understandable with Hillary than with Ivana or Melania, I might add), but somehow feel it is not a problem with Trump.

The double standard is so....................... leftist.  Is it not?
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #139 on: July 22, 2018, 12:01:49 am »
I read this whole thread looking for opinions. It kind of got off track, lol.

I did quite a bit of research today. So my questions are this:

Mueller is supposed to be investigating Russian collusion. What does Stormy D or this chick have to do with this? Can they pull his funding for being frivolous?

Is Cohen in legal trouble for taping the conversation? I mean I know that ethically he's a skunk. But legally?

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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #140 on: July 22, 2018, 12:21:51 am »
I read this whole thread looking for opinions. It kind of got off track, lol.

I did quite a bit of research today. So my questions are this:

Mueller is supposed to be investigating Russian collusion. What does Stormy D or this chick have to do with this? Can they pull his funding for being frivolous?

Is Cohen in legal trouble for taping the conversation? I mean I know that ethically he's a skunk. But legally?


This is under the SDNY investigation.  Mueller is not leading it.  Besides, this is regarding the other chick, McDougal.
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #141 on: July 22, 2018, 12:24:04 am »
I read this whole thread looking for opinions. It kind of got off track, lol.

I did quite a bit of research today. So my questions are this:

Mueller is supposed to be investigating Russian collusion. What does Stormy D or this chick have to do with this? Can they pull his funding for being frivolous?

Is Cohen in legal trouble for taping the conversation? I mean I know that ethically he's a skunk. But legally?

   Shamefully @berdie  I will answer your question with another question, What did Monica Lewinski have to do with Whitewater?

   In NY it is legal to record a conversation if only one person knows, Cohen knew (quite certain Trump knew too).
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #142 on: July 22, 2018, 12:41:44 am »
The one thing I have never seen a Trump devotee admit is that being a serial adulterer means that you repeatedly have violated the most important promise/vow of a lifetime.  There is no way to trust a man who is repeatedly unfaithful.

And I have never seen any of them admit that they most likely condemned Bill Clinton as untrustworthy because of his dalliances (much more understandable with Hillary than with Ivana or Melania, I might add), but somehow feel it is not a problem with Trump.

The double standard is so....................... leftist.  Is it not?

It's not unethical or immoral if THEIR guy does it.   It's only when a Democrat does it that it falls into the realm of provable untrustworthiness.

Because - they did not vote for an Altar Boy, they knew in advance their guy was what he was and they LIKE that he was an adulterous lying Circus master.    Those of us reminding them that the fruits of immorality and lack of principles make Trump untrustworthy are merely greeted with the same kinds of contempt you get from the Secular Left when their hypocrisy gets called upon for what it is.

Aside from the fact that Trump denied any payment being made to silence the porn star.

Of course if he kept his wedding vows, none of this would even be an issue - but damn those of us pointing it out because that makes us 'holier than thou' cretins demanding a theocracy.
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #143 on: July 22, 2018, 12:57:46 am »
Haven’t we seen this movie before?  Seems like a couple decades ago, we had a known philanderer, uncomfortably close to and suspected of being under the influence of a foreign power, excused for his actions, because the economy was good.  This remake sucks.  Absurd characters and ridiculous dialogue.
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #144 on: July 22, 2018, 01:05:16 am »
Haven’t we seen this movie before?  Seems like a couple decades ago, we had a known philanderer, uncomfortably close to and suspected of being under the influence of a foreign power, excused for his actions, because the economy was good.  This remake sucks.  Absurd characters and ridiculous dialogue.

But no cigars or blue dresses that we know of yet.
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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #145 on: July 22, 2018, 02:42:44 am »

This is under the SDNY investigation.  Mueller is not leading it.  Besides, this is regarding the other chick, McDougal.




I knew it was about McDougle....but I thought Meuller was the honcho in charge, thanks for the info. ^-^

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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #146 on: July 22, 2018, 02:52:48 am »
   Shamefully @berdie  I will answer your question with another question, What did Monica Lewinski have to do with Whitewater?

   In NY it is legal to record a conversation if only one person knows, Cohen knew (quite certain Trump knew too).



Thanks for your reply @corbe. Your "question-answer" was most valid.

Also, it sounds like there is no issue with the recording. I read two different opinions today while trying to figure this out. One agreed with you. That's two out of three.  :laugh:

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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #147 on: July 22, 2018, 03:10:46 am »
Rev. Robert Jeffress Defends Trump Amid Tape Chaos: We Also Supported ‘Known Womanizer’ Ronald Reagan

by Joseph A. Wulfsohn | 12:01 am, July 21st, 2018

 
<..snip..>

“This is not an unusual thing. We’ve been here before,” Jeffress told Fox News’ Ed Henry. “Back in 1980, evangelicals chose to support a twice-married Hollywood actor who was a known womanizer in Hollywood. His name was Ronald Reagan. They chose to support him over Jimmy Carter, with a born-again Baptist Sunday school teacher who had been faithfully married to one woman. The reason we supported President Reagan was not because we supporting womanizing or divorce. We supported his policies. And that’s true here, Ed. We are choosing to support his policies. We’re not under any illusion that we were voting for an altar boy when we voted for President Trump. We knew about his past. And by the way, none of us has a perfect past. We voted for him because of his policies.”

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/rev-robert-jeffress-defends-trump-amid-tape-chaos-we-also-supported-known-womanizer-ronald-reagan/

Oh FFS ...

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Re: Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
« Reply #148 on: July 22, 2018, 05:44:05 pm »
In the old days you had to have pictures to prove adultery.