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Why?


Because of the ridiculously lame and comical excuse they came up with and how he botched it.  He had one job - read the prepared statement.  Instead, he threw in the 'could be others' and 'a lot of people' garbage, negating what he just said.  He also crossed out the line about bringing the hackers to justice on the paper.  Every one of his advisors and aides saw the press conference, but somehow, it took them an entire day to correct the remarks with this pitiful 'blame it on a missing contraction' nonsense.   

 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/07/17/in-his-prepared-remarks-trump-removed-a-line-about-bringing-election-hackers-to-justice/?utm_term=.1c39a3912efb

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I agree with Tuesday Trump but not Monday Trump.  I wonder what what his position will be tomorrow?



Ok...that right there is funny...   :laugh:

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Which of our national security or economic interests exactly was it that Trump conceded?

Where exactly did Trump hand Putin the keys to the store?

Where are those pallets of $100 bills Trump sent to Russia like the ones O gave Iran?


Nobody expected him to go “Chuck Norris” on Putin.

Well they seem to be doing a hell of a lot of complaining that he Didn't do it after the fact.

@To-Whose-Benefit?  That’s just more straw men and more deflection.

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@To-Whose-Benefit?  That’s just more straw men and more deflection.

Straw man and deflection from What?

Your own personal prejudices?

You have a problem with 'Diplomacy'? The Sine Qua Non of our Opinion shaping, treasonous, leftist press?
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@To-Whose-Benefit?

This is the strawman, though.  Nobody expected him to go “Chuck Norris” on Putin.  We just don’t expect him to say (via Twitter while in that country) that our terrible relationship with Russia is due to America’s foolishness.  Which prompted the Russian foreign ministry to respond  “We agree.”



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Seriously? Have you already forgotten how Clinton and Gore raped Russia and stole a hell of a lot of the money being sent there to get them through the first winter and rebuild their government after the collapse of communism?

Forgotten the "Rotten meat" deal that Tyson pulled that cost the Russians millions,and Bubba flying to the summit in St.Petersburg to visit with  Yeltsin ahead of the summit meeting because Yeltsin had gone public about the rotten meat,Tyson Foods refusing to refund the money,and Yeltsin stating that Russia was cancelling the contract with Tyson and buying the shiploads of meat elsewhere?  Oddly enough,Yeltsin signed to renew the contract after Bubba's early visit.

Remember Goober being in charge of the World Bank cash funding going to Russia through a NYC bank? Remember billions showing up missing,and the only person found guilty was a young Russian woman in her 30's that was there to oversee Russia's interests? Neither Goober nor ANY of the US bureaucrats or bankers associated with that account were even given parking tickets. Billions disappeared,and were just forgotten about. There was also no followup on how long that young woman remained in prison after the dust settled.

And that is  just the tip of that iceberg off the top of my mind.
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If only an actual Conservative was elected, but alas - that's never going to happen ever again.

@INVAR

You are Party People,and wouldn't recognize an actual conservative if one bit you on the ass.
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@INVAR

You are Party People,and wouldn't recognize an actual conservative if one bit you on the ass.

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Really, when did Conservatism mean doing nothing?

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So you believe Trump met with Putin and asked him to get China to dump Treasury holdings or that Putin asked China to dump Treasury holdings because he met with Trump?

Did Q tell you this?

Please.

You don't find it curious that the moment Trump does a 180 from what he said standing next to Putin 18 hours earlier that Russia suddenly dumps 70% of what remaining US treasuries they hold overnight?

Q has nothing to do with my observation.
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You are Party People,and wouldn't recognize an actual conservative if one bit you on the ass.

And what Party would that be Pete? 

I renounced the GOP in 2015, precisely because they ARE NOT a Conservative party.
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You don't find it curious that the moment Trump does a 180 from what he said standing next to Putin 18 hours earlier that Russia suddenly dumps 70% of what remaining US treasuries they hold overnight?

So is your position that Trump told them to dump it or that Russia did it to get back at Trump for doubling back on his previous double-back?
It's hard to follow the logic here.
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Donald J. Trump

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So many people at the higher ends of intelligence loved my press conference performance in Helsinki. Putin and I discussed many important subjects at our earlier meeting. We got along well which truly bothered many haters who wanted to see a boxing match. Big results will come!



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Please.

You don't find it curious that the moment Trump does a 180 from what he said standing next to Putin 18 hours earlier that Russia suddenly dumps 70% of what remaining US treasuries they hold overnight?

Q has nothing to do with my observation.

I have brought this up more than once already.

We have Been at war with China for decades.

They can be beaten. The NT Bleating and Crowing over Trump hurting Soy Bean Farmers is a red herring.

China can't get their import need for Soy ANYWHERE but the US.

So their big counter punch was to put tariffs on the Item (soy) they desperately need from us.

China are well known currency manipulators.

Dumping our Treasury holdings is exactly what any tactician worth the name would expect from them.

It's called Asymmetric Warfare.

It wouldn't hurt you to read up on the subject.

Understand the principles at least.

Here's one that'll even read it For you.

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/20594

Sun Tzu, The Art of War
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On Tuesday, he said he meant to say he didn’t see any reason why it wouldn’t be Russia.


I didn't see the announcement, but if Trump said this I think he made a terrible mistake. By bowing to the pressure from the media, Rats and weak Pubs he's only encouraging them to increase their attacks on him. I still have doubts about the credibility of the intelligence community and federal law enforcement.

A big mistake!
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I have brought this up more than once already.

We have Been at war with China for decades.

They can be beaten. The NT Bleating and Crowing over Trump hurting Soy Bean Farmers is a red herring.

China can't get their import need for Soy ANYWHERE but the US.

So their big counter punch was to put tariffs on the Item (soy) they desperately need from us.

China are well known currency manipulators.

Dumping our Treasury holdings is exactly what any tactician worth the name would expect from them.

It's called Asymmetric Warfare.

It wouldn't hurt you to read up on the subject.

Understand the principles at least.

Here's one that'll even read it For you.

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/20594

Sun Tzu, The Art of War

And if China dumps enough US Treasury bonds they'll destabilize the Yuan. They're kinda screwed.

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So is your position that Trump told them to dump it or that Russia did it to get back at Trump for doubling back on his previous double-back?
It's hard to follow the logic here.

It's Trump, so logic goes out the window when trying to figure it out.

My thinking is Putin decided to show Trump that his 180 from the day before has consequences.

Because Trump believes and says whatever spews out of his mouth at any given moment he feels like vomiting it forth without any concern for the ramifications.  Either Trump cannot think ahead or he doesn't give a shit what happens as a result of his ever-changing positions.

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On Tuesday, he said he meant to say he didn’t see any reason why it wouldn’t be Russia.


I didn't see the announcement, but if Trump said this I think he made a terrible mistake. By bowing to the pressure from the media, Rats and weak Pubs he's only encouraging them to increase their attacks on him. I still have doubts about the credibility of the intelligence community and federal law enforcement.

A big mistake!

I agree it looked really bad. Unless there's some underlying strategy - and I'm not sure what that could possibly be - he looked extremely weak yesterday.

All he needed to do was stand pat. His words during the Helsinki press conference no where near warranted the media reaction.

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And if China dumps enough US Treasury bonds they'll destabilize the Yuan. They're kinda screwed.

2 acts of desperation from a Huge, Evil, paper tiger.

The ChiComs are so accustomed to making people who don't kiss their asses at home Disappear that they've developed a very overblown image of their own self importance.

WE, do not, need them.
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Soviet Union breaks up, that's hailed as a big achievement of the Reagan era but then, aiding in the independence movement of all of those countries, I'm not sure if that was the best thing and that is what has Russia mad.

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Ok...that right there is funny...   :laugh:

I guess some people would rather see higher unemployment for minorities, blacks and Hispanics, ISIS on the loose causing mayhem, North Korea firing missiles off willy-nilly.  I'm not sure if that is what @Once-Ler  intended but I certainly disagree with that.

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2 acts of desperation from a Huge, Evil, paper tiger.

The ChiComs are so accustomed to making people who don't kiss their asses at home Disappear that they've developed a very overblown image of their own self importance.

WE, do not, need them.

You are correct. IMO China is a house of cards.

On a social level there's quite alot going on under the surface there now.
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If only an actual Conservative was elected, but alas - that's never going to happen ever again.

Never ever?

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I guess some people would rather see higher unemployment for minorities, blacks and Hispanics, ISIS on the loose causing mayhem, North Korea firing missiles off willy-nilly.  I'm not sure if that is what @Once-Ler  intended but I certainly disagree with that.

@Once-Ler is just missing having a president that can actually see into foreign leaders' souls.

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Never ever?

Not in this culture.  Not with more than half the population wanting Socialism/Communism and the majority of the rest of it happy with Big Statist Fascism/Populism coupled with the Deep State Oligarchs who control the whole gamut and hate Conservatives more than the Left themselves do.
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