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IIRC I took algebra in the 8th grade.  Got all the way to first year calculus before I got out of HS..

Dumbing the country down has been going on pretty much continuously since then.
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IIRC I took algebra in the 8th grade.  Got all the way to first year calculus before I got out of HS..

Dumbing the country down has been going on pretty much continuously since then.

Yep, I was just getting ready to say, might as well end school for them at 6th grade because Algebra used to be first offered in 7th.

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IIRC I took algebra in the 8th grade.  Got all the way to first year calculus before I got out of HS..

Dumbing the country down has been going on pretty much continuously since then.
I also took Algebra in 8th grade. But 9th grade had a teacher who could not work the Algebra 2 problems himself. That hurt the lot of us. As there were race riots going on in the school, the teacher was not going to be dismissed, even for gross incompetence.

You really want a challenge, take some of the tests in the back of an early 1900s math book (eighth grade level).
It shows how far we have fallen.
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I also took Algebra in 8th grade. But 9th grade had a teacher who could not work the Algebra 2 problems himself. That hurt the lot of us. As there were race riots going on in the school, the teacher was not going to be dismissed, even for gross incompetence.

You really want a challenge, take some of the tests in the back of an early 1900s math book (eighth grade level).
It shows how far we have fallen.

Yeah!  I know.

BTW:  My algebra II teacher, a football coach, was continually running across the hall to have a competent teacher show him how to do the problems in the day's lesson.
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Yeah!  I know.

BTW:  My algebra II teacher, a football coach, was continually running across the hall to have a competent teacher show him how to do the problems in the day's lesson.

Mine was a community college physics "professor" who had notes that he used to write and complete problems on the board.  The notes were so old that he couldn't read them very well anymore so he'd get to a point in the problem and then say "Well, you guys get the idea.  You can finish it yourselves from here."

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Mine was a community college physics "professor" who had notes that he used to write and complete problems on the board.  The notes were so old that he couldn't read them very well anymore so he'd get to a point in the problem and then say "Well, you guys get the idea.  You can finish it yourselves from here."
I always liked the part where he went off into the weeds and then said "...and skipping a few steps (looks at answer key) we get...." and wrote the answer on the board. Problem was, if you picked up from where he left off, you couldn't get there from here.
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My Algebra 2 teacher loved math, but didn't care if you learned it from him. He would do equations on the chalk board so dang fast writing with his right hand while he was erasing with his left. Most of the kids in class passed via their homework, which the kid in front of you, or in back, or to your side, would grade and call out how many you missed.