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Psychiatrists ask APA to change rule prohibiting analysis of public figures

By Nathaniel Weixel - 06/28/18 02:01 PM EDT
 

Psychiatrists ask APA to change rule prohibiting analysis of public figures

A group of prominent psychiatrists are calling on the American Psychiatric Association to change a controversial rule that prohibits members from speculating about the mental state of public figures.

In a letter sent to the APA Thursday, the psychiatrists said that the so-called “Goldwater Rule” can put the public in danger by denying trained professionals from addressing mental health issues demonstrated by public figures, such as an elected official.

During the presidential election in 2016, when discussion of then-candidate Donald Trump's mental status became widespread, the APA reminded members of the rule governing ethics in the profession.

"The unique atmosphere of this year’s election cycle may lead some to want to psychoanalyze the candidates, but to do so would not only be unethical, it would be irresponsible," then-APA President Maria Oquendo said at the time.

Now some psychiatrists are asking for a formal change.

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http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/mental-health/394660-prominent-psychiatrists-call-for-ending-of-rule-prohibiting
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A group of 27 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts did write a book and said they disregarded the ethics rule due to their concern about the country; their commitment to the country overruled the ethics rule.  Book is, "The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump".

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A group of 27 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts did write a book and said they disregarded the ethics rule due to their concern about the country; their commitment to the country overruled the ethics rule.  Book is, "The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump".

Who'd they vote for?

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Who'd they vote for?

And if Wm Shirer were still alive I fully expect he'd be asked to weigh in with his analysis of the similarities between Trump and that austrian paper hanging sunufabitch.

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Psychiatrists ask APA to change rule prohibiting analysis of public figures

By Nathaniel Weixel - 06/28/18 02:01 PM EDT
 

Psychiatrists ask APA to change rule prohibiting analysis of public figures

A group of prominent psychiatrists are calling on the American Psychiatric Association to change a controversial rule that prohibits members from speculating about the mental state of public figures.

In a letter sent to the APA Thursday, the psychiatrists said that the so-called “Goldwater Rule” can put the public in danger by denying trained professionals from addressing mental health issues demonstrated by public figures, such as an elected official.

During the presidential election in 2016, when discussion of then-candidate Donald Trump's mental status became widespread, the APA reminded members of the rule governing ethics in the profession.

"The unique atmosphere of this year’s election cycle may lead some to want to psychoanalyze the candidates, but to do so would not only be unethical, it would be irresponsible," then-APA President Maria Oquendo said at the time.

Now some psychiatrists are asking for a formal change.

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http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/mental-health/394660-prominent-psychiatrists-call-for-ending-of-rule-prohibiting

I wonder what would happen if government psychiatrist took this up. Shudder.

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In other medical fields, it would be a violation of ethical standards to make this diagnosis without physical analysis, but also reveal diagnosis to the public.

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As of 2014: An estimated 106,500 psychologists possess current licenses in the United States.1

Just taking the 2014 number and not accounting for increases, a whopping 27, and not all of the Psychologists, are asking for this rule to be changed? An impressive number making the request less than 0.03% expect a rule to be changed because well, Trump.

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Talk about unethical!

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I would rather have a survey of businessowners, builders, developers, real estate investors.


The places to find a room full of crazy people, is a convention of psychists and psychologists.


Not to mention lawyers, government employees, bureaucrats
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Talk about unethical!

Talk about a target rich environment:











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Talk about a target rich environment:











Yeah, but they wouldn't be the targets.  You'd think these guys could find some way to be less transparent about why they want to do this.

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Uhhhh, yes?

Considering Where Psychiatry's opinion dispensing non-science Comes From, . . . . damn right we don't want these quacks being given any more of the political limelight no matter Who they're opining on.

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When Frederick Crews attacked Freud in an article 14 months ago, he outraged many psychoanalysts. It was, he argues here, a fury from a profession aware of its accelerating collapse

In its issue of November 18, 1993, the New York Review of Books published an essay-review of mine, "The Unknown Freud", to which the adjective "controversial" hardly seems adequate. The article attracted, and continues to attract, more attention than all of my previous writings combined, dating back to my fledgling literary critical efforts in 1957. For several ensuing months, an unprecedented number of protesting letters to the editor poured in, mostly from psychoanalysts outraged by the indignities I had heaped on their honourable profession and its founder. Two rounds of published exchanges, the first of which alone consumed more ink than the New York Review had ever devoted to the aftermath of an article, left the overwhelming majority of complainants fuming on the sidelines.

As several correspondents remarked in injured tones, the main burden of "The Unknown Freud" could have been predicted from several earlier essays of mine. Since the appearance of "Analysis Terminable" in 1980, I had repeatedly made the same two-pronged argument: that Freud's scientific and ethical standards were abysmally low and that his brainchild was, and still is, a pseudoscience. But why, then, had this recent essay proved so upsetting?
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Psychiatry is just pseudoscience career.  Snake oil graduates and phony baloney "docs" with prescription pads to over medicate.
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It seems to me that if a Psychiatrist makes a medical diagnosis public for any patient or non-patient, they are in direct violation of HIPPA and need to lose their license, be prosecuted and have to pay restitution to the victim.

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As of 2014: An estimated 106,500 psychologists possess current licenses in the United States.1

Just taking the 2014 number and not accounting for increases, a whopping 27, and not all of the Psychologists, are asking for this rule to be changed? An impressive number making the request less than 0.03% expect a rule to be changed because well, Trump.


Psychiatrists, not psychologists.
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It seems to me that if a Psychiatrist makes a medical diagnosis public for any patient or non-patient, they are in direct violation of HIPPA and need to lose their license, be prosecuted and have to pay restitution to the victim.

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That's assuming they have a professional relationship with a patient.

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Psychiatrists, not psychologists.
Same fruit different flavor, it's just that one can prescribe the wacky pills will the other just takes them. My wife has both as clients and the general rule is both are just plain nuts.

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Same fruit different flavor, it's just that one can prescribe the wacky pills will the other just takes them. My wife has both as clients and the general rule is both are just plain nuts.


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She showed up, sat down, fished a cookbook out of her bag and set to reading the Shrink recipes.

Shrink squawked that she was blocking him, defeating the purpose of her evaluation.

"Damn Right." she told him. "I know who you are and what you do, and if you think I'm going to tell you anything about myself and have you use it against me, You're the one who is nuts."

Then she went back to reading him recipes.
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