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Breaking!!! SCOTUS rules against big labor!
« on: June 27, 2018, 02:10:23 pm »
SCOTUS says, in no uncertain terms, that non union worker cannot be forced to pay dues to a union to which they do not belong!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

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Re: Breaking!!! SCOTUS rules against big labor!
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2018, 02:11:52 pm »
Including public employee unions? This is epic.

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Re: Breaking!!! SCOTUS rules against big labor!
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2018, 02:13:14 pm »
OUTSTANDING!!!
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Re: Breaking!!! SCOTUS rules against big labor!
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2018, 02:13:27 pm »
SCOTUS says, in no uncertain terms, that non union worker cannot be forced to pay dues to a union to which they do not belong!

5-4???? 

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Re: Breaking!!! SCOTUS rules against big labor!
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2018, 02:14:38 pm »
5-4????

The usual 4 suspects.

Kennedy has been stepping up - hope one of the other four marxist fossils retires before he does.

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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2018, 02:15:35 pm »
5-4????

Yes!  Of course it was 5/4. You don't think any of the socialist members would vote for this do you?
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Re: Breaking!!! SCOTUS rules against big labor!
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2018, 02:16:57 pm »
Including public employee unions? This is epic.

AFSCME is the litigant, so especially public employees.
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Re: Breaking!!! SCOTUS rules against big labor!
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2018, 02:17:33 pm »
SCOTUS says, in no uncertain terms, that non union worker cannot be forced to pay dues to a union to which they do not belong!
Mark my words:

The union-controlled states will pass a "union tax:" any person who opts out of a labor union must pay a tax equal to the dues of the union in their company.

This will be based on Roberts and the Obamacare precedent.
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Re: Breaking!!! SCOTUS rules against big labor!
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2018, 02:18:07 pm »
This is big!

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Re: Breaking!!! SCOTUS rules against big labor!
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2018, 02:20:27 pm »
Mark my words:

The union-controlled states will pass a "union tax:" any person who opts out of a labor union must pay a tax equal to the dues of the union in their company.

This will be based on Roberts and the Obamacare precedent.

There will be all manner of mechanization tried and all will fail!  This is a knife in the heart to the Democrat party!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: Breaking!!! SCOTUS rules against big labor!
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2018, 02:21:02 pm »
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien

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Re: Breaking!!! SCOTUS rules against big labor!
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2018, 02:21:13 pm »
AFSCME is the litigant, so especially public employees.

Sweet.

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Re: Breaking!!! SCOTUS rules against big labor!
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2018, 02:22:22 pm »
Every state is Right to Work now. This is the biggest SC ruling since Roe.

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Re: Breaking!!! SCOTUS rules against big labor!
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2018, 02:22:39 pm »
Ya think?..

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« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2018, 02:23:43 pm »
Every state is Right to Work now. This is the biggest SC ruling since Roe.

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Yep!  No doubt about it!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: Breaking!!! SCOTUS rules against big labor!
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2018, 02:24:17 pm »
Every state is Right to Work now. This is the biggest SC ruling since Roe.

The teacher's union rules CA with an iron fist. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out here.

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« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2018, 02:24:39 pm »
I do, and good morning, Bigun.

Good morning to you my dear!  Life is GOOD!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien

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Re: Breaking!!! SCOTUS rules against big labor!
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2018, 02:26:38 pm »
While good news, I think it's ridiculously sad that we have to hang every shred of what remains of our liberty on what 9 justices in black robes have to say.
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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: Breaking!!! SCOTUS rules against big labor!
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2018, 02:27:41 pm »
While good news, I think it's ridiculously sad that we have to hang every shred of what remains of our liberty on what 9 justices in black robes have to say.

 :amen: to that my friend!   It truly is sad!  These last two rulings should have been 9/0.
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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien

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Re: Breaking!!! SCOTUS rules against big labor!
« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2018, 02:29:14 pm »
While good news, I think it's ridiculously sad that we have to hang every shred of what remains of our liberty on what 9 justices in black robes have to say.

Especially when four are rabid ideologues, the farthest thing in the world from jurists. Its almost a farce.

But we gotta play the hand we're dealt.

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Re: Breaking!!! SCOTUS rules against big labor!
« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2018, 02:36:22 pm »
Thanks @Hoodat!  I was in a hurry to get the news out!

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Re: Breaking!!! SCOTUS rules against big labor!
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2018, 02:40:19 pm »
Every state is Right to Work now. This is the biggest SC ruling since Roe.

I don't see how that changed who is in the union.  They were charging fees to those not in the union.
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« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2018, 02:43:55 pm »
I don't see how that changed who is in the union.  They were charging fees to those not in the union.

That is exactly right @thackney and now they can no longer extract dues from non members as they are currently doing.  It's a BIG deal.
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien