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Rubio: Not Wise For Trump to Cast Immigrants as Criminals
« on: June 24, 2018, 12:39:18 am »
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In a preview clip from CNN’s “The Axe Files” that airs Saturday, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) said it was not “wise” for President Donald Trump to cast the majority of immigrants as criminals.

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AXELROD: The president has depicted the people who are coming as dangerous, he said they are not sending us their best, rapists, murderers….The vast 98%, 99% of these people are being charged with a misdemeanor, they don’t have criminal histories. Is it fair to depict them in that way?

RUBIO: I don’t think it is ever wise to cast a broad net, a generalization over any group of human beings. So, yes there are people that cross the border that are dangerous and criminals and alike. I would say through my experience the vast majority of people are coming over because just want a better life. My sense of it is if you are a father, for example my situation, if my family is desperate they are living in a dangerous situation, I’d do almost anything to protect my children and find a better life for them. So we have to understand that element of it. That doesn’t mean we don’t have to have laws on our end. Mexico has immigration laws. Canada has immigration laws. I don’t think that we should generalize. I think vast majority of people crossing the border are just coming because they want something better.
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/06/22/rubio-not-wise-for-trump-to-cast-immigrants-as-criminals-vast-majority-want-a-better-life/
Little Marco exposes himself once again by saying someone coming into this country illegally is not a criminal.

Why pass laws, Marco if you want them to be broken?
What a jerk.
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Re: Rubio: Not Wise For Trump to Cast Immigrants as Criminals
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2018, 01:09:15 am »
Democrats and Republicans Agree:

"The Law Is Only What We Say It Is".
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Re: Rubio: Not Wise For Trump to Cast Immigrants as Criminals
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2018, 01:09:35 am »
Little Marco.  The Cuban Flash Strikes again.
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Re: Rubio: Not Wise For Trump to Cast Immigrants as Criminals
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2018, 01:16:25 am »
Little Marco exposes himself once again by saying someone coming into this country illegally is not a criminal.

Why pass laws, Marco if you want them to be broken?
What a jerk.

Problem is.... some of them ARE criminals.  Some are gang members, murderers, rapists and yes, even terrorists.... or terrorist wannabes.  Some are less harmless, and just go around wreaking havoc by drunk driving.  Still kills their victims just as dead.

So unless or until we can control our borders, we will continue to be victimized by those criminals that are taking advantage of our fubared immigration system (thanks, Democrats!).... and honest, hard-working Americans will continue to be on the hook for their "care and keep", while being victimized by the criminal elements among them.

So where are we now?  Back to that asinine catch and release BS?  Swell.
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Re: Rubio: Not Wise For Trump to Cast Immigrants as Criminals
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2018, 01:20:45 am »
Hey Marco, as a 'Gang of Eight' member, sit down and SHUT UP!!!  You've done enough damage to this country.
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Re: Rubio: Not Wise For Trump to Cast Immigrants as Criminals
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2018, 01:28:55 am »
Little Marco.  The Cuban Flash Strikes again.

Someone needs to 'splain to him what illegal means.
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Re: Rubio: Not Wise For Trump to Cast Immigrants as Criminals
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2018, 10:25:57 am »
NPR? Yeah, that’s the first place I go to find rationality.

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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2018, 12:25:20 pm »
NPR? Yeah, that’s the first place I go to find rationality.

Jim Robs Business model follows that of the NPR.  Quarterly begathons.    Hmmmm.
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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2018, 01:48:53 pm »
Problem is.... some of them ARE criminals.  Some are gang members, murderers, rapists and yes, even terrorists.... or terrorist wannabes.  Some are less harmless, and just go around wreaking havoc by drunk driving.  Still kills their victims just as dead.

So unless or until we can control our borders, we will continue to be victimized by those criminals that are taking advantage of our fubared immigration system (thanks, Democrats!).... and honest, hard-working Americans will continue to be on the hook for their "care and keep", while being victimized by the criminal elements among them.

So where are we now?  Back to that asinine catch and release BS?  Swell.
Some??

Please explain how breaking the law entering this country without permission is anything but being a criminal.
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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2018, 01:56:07 pm »
Things were much simpler when the issue was all about xenophobes and racists.

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Re: Rubio: Not Wise For Trump to Cast Immigrants as Criminals
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2018, 02:11:31 pm »
Some??

Please explain how breaking the law entering this country without permission is anything but being a criminal.

Yeah.... I know that.  But I was working on the false leftie premise that migrating to the USA didn't automatically make you a criminal.  Point is... Rubio and the idiot left are ignoring the many real, actual criminals that are coming across with the families that are not rapists, murderers, drug dealers, etc.
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Re: Rubio: Not Wise For Trump to Cast Immigrants as Criminals
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2018, 04:05:28 pm »
NPR? Yeah, that’s the first place I go to find rationality.

Its just a map with dots showing all the places in the United States the Mexican Cartel is established.  I am sure I can find the information elsewhere.

Here is a DEA map.

http://www.businessinsider.com/dea-maps-of-mexican-cartels-in-the-us-2016-12
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: Rubio: Not Wise For Trump to Cast Immigrants as Criminals
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2018, 04:18:44 pm »
Hey Rubio

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Re: Rubio: Not Wise For Trump to Cast Immigrants as Criminals
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2018, 04:57:27 pm »
It USED to be that illegal immigrants mostly came to work. Seasonal agriculture, dating to LEGAL prorams during WWII for example.

They KNEW bad behavior had consequences.

Increasinglyly, starting with Reagan's 1986 Amnesty, the illegal immigrant sees fewer bad consequences for his misbehavior.

It is a common joke,, that illegals run away from their auto accidents.

MS 13 IS a violent criminal gang. Not limited to Lost Angeles, but in Long Island NY !!!

I know plenty of (Latinos, Hispanics, Mexicans, etc.) and generally they despise illegals since it casts bad light on them too.

I can make the distinction, and so should Marco.
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Re: Rubio: Not Wise For Trump to Cast Immigrants as Criminals
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2018, 05:07:15 pm »
He probably also thinks it's not wise for Trump to cast Senators as criminals.

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Re: Rubio: Not Wise For Trump to Cast Immigrants as Criminals
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2018, 05:50:33 pm »
Jim Robs Business model follows that of the NPR.  Quarterly begathons.    Hmmmm.

If our government still supporting NPR? 
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Re: Rubio: Not Wise For Trump to Cast Immigrants as Criminals
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2018, 07:46:10 pm »
It USED to be that illegal immigrants mostly came to work. Seasonal agriculture, dating to LEGAL prorams during WWII for example.

They KNEW bad behavior had consequences.

Increasinglyly, starting with Reagan's 1986 Amnesty, the illegal immigrant sees fewer bad consequences for his misbehavior.

It is a common joke,, that illegals run away from their auto accidents.

MS 13 IS a violent criminal gang. Not limited to Lost Angeles, but in Long Island NY !!!

I know plenty of (Latinos, Hispanics, Mexicans, etc.) and generally they despise illegals since it casts bad light on them too.

I can make the distinction, and so should Marco.

Amen I know many too.  Many that I am quite fond of.  But we have to stop illegal immigration.  We can't sustain it financially or morally.  We are allowing crime to "infect" our country coming from the Mexican border.  I don't have the link on me but posted it in another thread about the percentages of illegal drugs that come over the border.  If we want to talk about immoral and the inhumane treatment of children try the ones who have to grow up in a meth house.

https://mindfray.com/debate/forgotten-children-growing-up-with-meth-addicted-parents/

This is immoral yet we still can't even agree to secure the border.  Don't talk to me about immoral to hold children in a clean facility where they are fed, clothed and provided with medical care.  Because we are openly allowing drugs of all kinds to flood across an essentially open border.  The quantity of drugs that come would not if we were even making a surface dent on border crime.  Cartels inside the US control cities and towns along the border.  They are established in cities throughout the US where they do their crime business.  That is what is inhumane.  That we allow them to take over our country.  To push their drugs.  To traffic women and children for sex.  If we have any sense of humanity we must stop the crime that ruins children's lives right here in the US.  Citizens of the United States.  Living in MS-13 crime infested neighborhoods where they fear to go out of their homes.

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I think politicians have done us wrong. They are great at talking about the inhumane treatment of illegal immigrants but don't care about Americans who are victims of border crime.  Lets dry up the drug smuggling that causes inhumane conditions for our children.
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: Rubio: Not Wise For Trump to Cast Immigrants as Criminals
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: Rubio: Not Wise For Trump to Cast Immigrants as Criminals
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2018, 08:15:59 pm »
If our government still supporting NPR?

I don't care.  The information is accurate.  Cartels are in business in America.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2018, 08:23:12 pm »
Yeah.... I know that.  But I was working on the false leftie premise that migrating to the USA didn't automatically make you a criminal.  Point is... Rubio and the idiot left are ignoring the many real, actual criminals that are coming across with the families that are not rapists, murderers, drug dealers, etc.
100% of them are criminals as they break our laws.

Why use their premises?
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Re: Rubio: Not Wise For Trump to Cast Immigrants as Criminals
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2018, 08:33:55 pm »
100% of them are criminals as they break our laws.

Why use their premises?

If I was Trump I would launch a huge shame campaign.  I would expose every politician who's districts are infested with border related crime directly or indirectly.  Especially concentrating on children and parents.  Drugs, murder, MS-13 recruiting of immigrants and the affects of children living in area's of gang related crime and drugs.  Liberals are not the only ones who can play the shame game.

Americans need to see the inhumane affects of unsecured borders.

I am sure it would be easy to find substantial information on border related crime

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/crime-illegal-immigration/

Who is taking care of all the children of these detained criminals?

https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2018/02/12/florida-witnessed-the-largest-increase-of-ice-arrests-in-the-country-last-year

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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: Rubio: Not Wise For Trump to Cast Immigrants as Criminals
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2018, 09:55:34 pm »
If I was Trump I would launch a huge shame campaign.  I would expose every politician who's districts are infested with border related crime directly or indirectly.  Especially concentrating on children and parents.  Drugs, murder, MS-13 recruiting of immigrants and the affects of children living in area's of gang related crime and drugs.  Liberals are not the only ones who can play the shame game.

Americans need to see the inhumane affects of unsecured borders.

I am sure it would be easy to find substantial information on border related crime

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/crime-illegal-immigration/

Who is taking care of all the children of these detained criminals?

https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2018/02/12/florida-witnessed-the-largest-increase-of-ice-arrests-in-the-country-last-year

During the campaign President Trump to invite onto the stage the families of those who had fallen victim to the hand of illegals.  How quickly people forget.

I'm still waiting for the wall and signs posted that read:  Those who cross over into the U.S. illegally will be considered an enemy of the United States of America and will be fired upon. "Aquellos que crucen ilegalmente a los EE. UU. Serán considerados enemigos de los Estados Unidos de América y recibirán disparos."
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Re: Rubio: Not Wise For Trump to Cast Immigrants as Criminals
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2018, 09:59:14 pm »
I see Rubio is still on the wrong side of this issue.

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Re: Rubio: Not Wise For Trump to Cast Immigrants as Criminals
« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2018, 12:14:35 am »
Sanguine observes:
"I see Rubio is still on the wrong side of this issue."

And to think there were folks in this forum promotin' him for president!
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