@Oceander
@mystery-ak
@CatherineofAragon
Ocean, let's look at the facts based on past behavior of both of the signers of the "document" (and I will ignore the coming attacks on me from the usual sources).
Trump: he can't be trusted on anything because he changes his mind by the minute. Today, he loves Kim, tomorrow he may start again the Kim gross name-calling. If Kim says one word Trump doesn't like, Trump will verbally shoot him down and start the war games as planned in August, likely start them as soon as he can. (Without notifying his military, he's called off the war games.) Trump has alienated our allies across the world; he will do the same with Kim in the near future. In his business, Trump lied and stole and caused businesses to go bankrupt because he wouldn't pay them. He cannot be trusted to do what he says he will do and when he shafts someone, he blames it on someone else. Kim should not believe anything Trump says or anything Trump signs.
Kim: I saw a documentary of North Korea's past and how they live now - their one goal in life is to destroy America. They teach it in their schools - they say America buried their people alive in the Korean war - their printed cards for people to buy are about the destruction of America. They have little food and the reason they give for little food is their money has to go to destroying America. They celebrate when Kim fires a missile. Their govn. controls their two TV stations (I think it was two). The people see govn. made films of their enemy America. Kim has killed some of his family and extended family. He has killed any military official who disagrees with him. He is like Trump - if he hears a word about him he doesn't like, he kills the person just as Trump destroys people's businesses and individual people's lives in other ways and now destroys our relationship with other countries. What is Kim going to do now with his people living their entire lives waiting for their leader to destroy America? I would not be surprised to see a military overthrow of Kim if he is actually considering dumping/destroying all the nuclear weapons and all missiles. What Kim says/does in the next several days will be an indication of how he will proceed, or not, as he can't be believed, either. He may also suddenly be killed by "his" military.
There is no reason to celebrate anything right now since both men lack integrity. This thread of fighting back and forth between factions here is a useless waste of time as what has happened so far means nothing. The first act is over; wait for the second act, third act, of this play.
@Victoria33 Totally honest here---when I got up this morning I checked Twitter and saw the pics, and I was impressed. I showed my husband and I said that if Trump pulls this off, he should get the Nobel Prize. Then I started getting the details....no real concessions from Kim, Trump saying we would end war games and pull out of South Korea without notifying SK of his intentions, etc.
The worst part for me was the tongue bath he gave that mass-murdering bastard. "He runs his country tough"---
really?? Yeah, I'd have to say concentration camps for your whole family if you don't keep the mandatory photo of Kim on your wall dusted very tough. Didn't Ronald Reagan always make it clear that he was on the side of the prisoners/dissidents instead of the tyrants? And why was our flag side by side with theirs?
Maybe something will come of it, but according to the Heritage Foundation, NK has made the same promise eight times since 1992. So excuse me if I don't celebrate yet.
