USA & No Korea Summit LIVE THREAD

[Oceander]

Glad you're so unbiased and objective.

So, they inked a deal that did not mandate destruction of a nuclear site, and then even before Kim’s plane could land, they scurried out and started destroying nuclear sites because of that agreement. 

Really?

[mystery-ak]

   With all due respect @driftdiver I've had as many, if not more, timeouts than most here in the last year and most would consider me the poster boy for NTism, sure, most were because my idea of 'soft' p0rn suddenly became Wanker stuff, but the proof is in the pudding.

 

[Victoria33]

Because Trumpalos cannot assuage that bitter taint of insecurity they have unless all around them are worshipping Trump as fervently as they.

@Oceander
@mystery-ak
@CatherineofAragon 

Ocean, let's look at the facts based on past behavior of both of the signers of the "document"  (and I will ignore the coming attacks on me from the usual sources).

Trump: he can't be trusted on anything because he changes his mind by the minute.  Today, he loves Kim, tomorrow he may start again the Kim gross name-calling.  If Kim says one word Trump doesn't like, Trump will verbally shoot him down and start the war games as planned in August, likely start them as soon as he can.  (Without notifying his military, he's called off the war games.)  Trump has alienated our allies across the world; he will do the same with Kim in the near future.  In his business, Trump lied and stole and caused businesses to go bankrupt because he wouldn't pay them.  He cannot be trusted to do what he says he will do and when he shafts someone, he blames it on someone else.  Kim should not believe anything Trump says or anything Trump signs.

Kim:  I saw a documentary of North Korea's past and how they live now - their one goal in life is to destroy America.  They teach it in their schools - they say America buried their people alive in the Korean war - their printed cards for people to buy are about the destruction of America.  They have little food and the reason they give for little food is their money has to go to destroying America.  They celebrate when Kim fires a missile.  Their govn. controls their two TV stations (I think it was two).  The people see govn. made films of their enemy America.  Kim has killed some of his family and extended family.  He has killed any military official who disagrees with him.  He is like Trump - if he hears a word about him he doesn't like, he kills the person just as Trump destroys people's businesses and individual people's lives in other ways and now destroys our relationship with other countries.  What is Kim going to do now with his people living their entire lives waiting for their leader to destroy America?  I would not be surprised to see a military overthrow of Kim if he is actually considering dumping/destroying all the nuclear weapons and all missiles.  What Kim says/does in the next several days will be an indication of how he will proceed, or not, as he can't be believed, either.  He may also suddenly be killed by "his" military.

There is no reason to celebrate anything right now since both men lack integrity.  This thread of fighting back and forth between factions here is a useless waste of time as what has happened so far means nothing.  The first act is over; wait for the second act, third act, of this play.

[mystery-ak]

So, they inked a deal that did not mandate destruction of a nuclear site, and then even before Kim’s plane could land, they scurried out and started destroying nuclear sites because of that agreement. 

Really?

No just heard a clip on Fox from Trump....all the details are still to be worked out...ongoing process

[Oceander]

No just heard a clip on Fox from Trump....all the details are still to be worked out...ongoing process

Really? 

[corbe]

   I too would miss @Right_in_Virginia if she decides to forsake us.
   WE cannot depend on @Frank Cannon to post all the WH press releases.

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia

No one is suggesting that you leave either but the endless petty sniping must stop at some point and now seems like it would be a very good time for that to occur.

Right back at ya @Bigun  I am more than a little sick and tired of the armchair psychobabble that comes my way.  Every other reply to me, even if it's posting an article, calls me  a Trump worshiper, a sore winner or some such crap.  You want peace?  Then this needs to stop. I support the President.  I think he's doing a terrific job.  I am proud of him on the world stage and appreciate his taking the slings and arrows for standing up for this nation.  Everyone knows this.  I am proud of this.  You're not going to change this.

If a poster doesn't have a cogent reply in rebuttal to what I post ... then walk on by. Stop acting like judge, jury and executioner of me...the person.   No one has this right.

You want the endless petty sniping to end ... well, I've got what appears to be news for you.  So do I.  I suggest folks take a good look in the mirror before throwing any more judgments and accusations at me.

[Right_in_Virginia]

No just heard a clip on Fox from Trump....all the details are still to be worked out...ongoing process

He's been saying this for two weeks.

[mystery-ak]

Really?

There really are no details yet..they all need to be worked out between both No and So Korea, US and China...everyone is just speculating..

[Right_in_Virginia]

   I too would miss @Right_in_Virginia if she decides to forsake us.
   WE cannot depend on @Frank Cannon to post all the WH press releases.

Just say "thank you". 

And not everything has to be sarcastic.  It gets old.

[Oceander]

Right back at ya @Bigun  I am more than a little sick and tired of the armchair psychobabble that comes my way.  Every other reply to me, even if it's posting an article, calls me  a Trump worshiper, a sore winner or some such crap.  You want peace?  Then this needs to stop. I support the President.  I think he's doing a terrific job.  I am proud of him on the world stage and appreciate his taking the slings and arrows for standing up for this nation.  Everyone knows this.  I am proud of this.  You're not going to change this.

If a poster doesn't have a cogent reply in rebuttal to what I post ... then walk on by. Stop acting like judge, jury and executioner of me...the person.   No one has this right.

You want the endless petty sniping to end ... well, I've got what appears to be news for you.  So do I.  I suggest folks take a good look in the mirror before throwing any more judgments and accusations at me.

Ah well. It was too good to last.

[musiclady]

I no longer care to participate. That I have judged by a comment I only intended as 100% respectful (yes, it is true) is enough. That I have been accused, impugned and indicted because of a “tell” says more about others than it does me.

Write what you will. I’m done.

@Lando Lincoln - you are one of the most even handed, logical, fair minded people on this forum (and on every forum you've ever been on).

What you said was respectful, kind and fair, and the fact that anyone criticized it reflects poorly only on them and not on you.

I know you haven't posted much lately, but every post you've written is a gem.

Please stick around!!!

[edpc]

I heard some on Hannity, NK has destroyed nuclear sites, maybe one of them was too far gone, they've stopped firing off missiles. To say, this deal is one-sided is false. Back on topic.

They had stopped testing missiles some time ago, perhaps due to the fact they had achieved the desired range through altitude testing.  The nuclear test site was widely reported to be wrecked from the combination of their successful large scale test and previous other smaller ones.  For them to stop these activities now is like a person with meth mouth swearing off oral hygiene.  It doesn't really mean much.  When we have NK warheads studied, disassembled, and stored at the Oak Ridge facility, I'll be convinced they're serious.

[driftdiver]

   With all due respect @driftdiver I've had as many, if not more, timeouts than most here in the last year and most would consider me the poster boy for NTism, sure, most were because my idea of 'soft' p0rn suddenly became Wanker stuff, but the proof is in the pudding.

@corbe

In all seriousness you rarely insult me for Trump stuff and personally I appreciate your softcore porn @mystery-ak might not but she's a stick in the mud sometimes.

No I'm referring to pepe like @INVAR and @Oceander where nearly every single post has an insult or something intended to be demeaning.  It gets old.  It's to the point where it really outweighs the enjoyment.  You can't discuss anything without getting insulted by those folks and everything is about Trump to them.

Now I'll be accused of whining so screw u all.

[GtHawk]

Oh, crap, I wanted to stay out this ... but.... @mystery-ak   The point is, as I see it, @Lando Lincoln carefully chose to call the POTUS "Mr. Trump".  Had LL simply posted "Trump" he would not have faced the question.  But @Lando Lincoln specifically chose not to call Donald Trump "President" Trump.

Here's why this matters:  Look at LL's posting history ... which is very unique.  He is the only Briefer who is able to drive on the dividing line of a two way highway without even denting his car.  He can do this precisely because every syllable he posts is done with great care and balance --- to prevent knocking himself into oncoming traffic.  LL has a gift .... of sorts.

Point being:  LL chose "Mr" over "President" -- a subtle diss at the POTUS.  But this time he got clipped by oncoming traffic.   ^-^


@DCPatriot

Inject hysterical laughter

[corbe]

Right back at ya @Bigun  I am more than a little sick and tired of the armchair psychobabble that comes my way.  Every other reply to me, even if it's posting an article, calls me  a Trump worshiper, a sore winner or some such crap.  You want peace?  Then this needs to stop. I support the President.  I think he's doing a terrific job.  I am proud of him on the world stage and appreciate his taking the slings and arrows for standing up for this nation.  Everyone knows this.  I am proud of this.  You're not going to change this.

If a poster doesn't have a cogent reply in rebuttal to what I post ... then walk on by. Stop acting like judge, jury and executioner of me...the person.   No one has this right.

You want the endless petty sniping to end ... well, I've got what appears to be news for you.  So do I.  I suggest folks take a good look in the mirror before throwing any more judgments and accusations at me.

   With all due respect @Right_in_Virginia, and I say that sincerely, though you probably have me on Ignore,  the problem, IMHO, is you Trumpers need to grow a Thicker Skin, $hit, I've even been called a hellary lover here, that pales to the same kinda crap yall have been called.
   It's an Internet Political Forum, unlike TOS and Trumpbart, Briefers are encouraged to discuss different opinions (respectfully!).   It's a Feature not a Bug. 
   Echo chambers are plentiful and elsewhere.

[GtHawk]

He was 'Family'.

....and so were you.    ^-^

Did you rend your garments while tying that ?

[skeeter]

@corbe

In all seriousness you rarely insult me for Trump stuff and personally I appreciate your softcore porn @mystery-ak might not but she's a stick in the mud sometimes.

No I'm referring to pepe like @INVAR and @Oceander where nearly every single post has an insult or something intended to be demeaning.  It gets old.  It's to the point where it really outweighs the enjoyment.  You can't discuss anything without getting insulted by those folks and everything is about Trump to them.

Now I'll be accused of whining so screw u all.

Its true there are a few individuals here still mad about the past election (or whatever) who get their jollies poking those they see as pleased with the way things are developing. Or at least not as bitter as they. Its weird.

But as Dionne Warwick once said, just walk on by.

[TomSea]

   With all due respect @Right_in_Virginia, and I say that sincerely, though you probably have me on Ignore,  the problem, IMHO, is you Trumpers need to grow a Thicker Skin, $hit, I've even been called a hellary lover here, that pales to the same kinda crap yall have been called.
   It's an Internet Political Forum, unlike TOS and Trumpbart, Briefers are encouraged to discuss different opinions (respectfully!).   It's a Feature not a Bug. 
   Echo chambers are plentiful and elsewhere.

Okay, opinion noted. Now, let's get back on topic.

What if someone who wasn't one of us "Briefers" were looking in?  They'd be seeing this infighting. There is enough in the news without all of this and I think it pretty much goes both ways, accusing others of having too thin of a skin could mean, usually, those for the President don't take offense per say, driftdriver and me, we just walk on. This was about someone who took offense to apparently what RIV said. I think RIV has almost a "possessiveness" about her, but trolling, insulting, I don't think she does much if ever.  There I said my 2 cents, we all have it. Back to the topic.

[edpc]

Echo chambers are plentiful and elsewhere.

elsewhere   elsewhere   elsewhere

[TomSea]

Bush Center highlights North Korean human rights abuses after summit
Jacqueline Thomsen

The George W. Bush Presidential Center is tweeting out coverage and analysis of human rights abuses in North Korea in the wake of President’s historic summit with the country’s leader on Tuesday.

The center has shared older posts on the human rights violations as well as pieces arguing for human rights to be included in future talks with North Korea.

Asked about the posts, a spokesperson for the Bush Center told The Hill that it was “simply sharing content that we work on every day within our Human Freedom Initiative.”

Read more at: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/391773-trump-i-told-kim-he-could-have-the-best-hotels-in-the-world

[XenaLee]

elsewhere   elsewhere   elsewhere

Lol!  You're a funny guy.   

[Bigun]

@Bigun

I'm active.  So is it me you are back stabbing or someone else.

@driftdiver

Not you.  I think our conversations have been respectful. Do you think differently?

[Victoria33]

Just taking a moment to try to catch up. Have we offered to stop training with South Korea and give Lil'Kim glorious Trump Golf resorts yet?

@AbaraXas

Yes.  Trump had a film made, gave it to Kim; the film showing what North Korea could be like if they love Trump.  In the film there was a beautiful beach (it is a Florida beach).  So, yes, if Kim bows to Trump, Trump will make North Korea another Trump golden masterpiece (of course, Trump gets a kickback of money when people use anything with the Trump name on it).

[aligncare]

Allow me say it’d be dull around here without RIV, edpc, DC, jpsb, abcdefg and all the rest. But, chill folks! Singapore was just a meeting and the earth is still on its axis. No one’s going anywhere.

We all come back sooner or later anyway.