USA & No Korea Summit LIVE THREAD

[Frank Cannon]

Same here.  I see a guy who throws shit at the wall, calls it art, and somehow gets people to agree.  Seems like the idea of postponing exercises might have been at least discussed with the Pentagon before the trip.  Keep telling us about his planning, however.

Every day for you must effing blow......I love that.

[catfish1957]

What do you mean it didn't live up to the hype?  Did Trump and Kim not kiss at the end?  You have no idea on this earth (but that never stops you) what will result from this summit.

I'll take the middle road.  Optimistic, but mostly pessimistic that Kim may be the person in the world least to trust.  Worst case he dupes Trump in getting military removed from Korea, while secretly maintaining his Nuclear arsenal.  Which won't be hard since his Iranian buddies will give him plenty of tips.

[Emjay]

I am going to comment about this event while blissfully unaware of the ongoing discussion.  I've also missed the news cycle of the morning with its talking heads telling me what I saw last night.  Also blissful.

Anyway.  I came away encouraged.  Encouraged because, while my hopes were high, my expectations were low.  My sense is that Mr. Trump felt similarly.  But, he took a shot and continues to do so.  I gotta give him his props on that alone.  I see this as a process; and as it continues, it will be a process of starts and stops, hope and disappointment.  Ultimately, there will be success or failure.  But we need to be mindful there is all kinds of backchannel communication ongoing between the parties through direct lines and through surrogates.  If there is a Round 2 meeting between the principles, it will be because of a significant advancement in the conversation.  Basic, generic stuff, right?  Enough to keep me hopeful, and encouraged.  It is better this than to see ballistic missile launches across the Sea of Japan.

For trying, Mr. Trump gets the meaningless benefit of a thumbs-up from me.  The world is perilous beyond comprehension.  This is an effort - gamble - worth taking.  I will support it.

Thank you @Lando Lincoln   I gotta say you were wise not to waste time reading all the previous comments.  I read the first two pages and saw exactly what the next pages would be and skipped to the end.

We won't know until we know, and Trump made that clear in his speech prior to the meeting.

What we do know is that Trump made more of an effort than anyone has in many years and I don't see how anyone can fault him for that.

[driftdiver]

Every day for you must effing blow......I love that.

@Frank Cannon
 

[corbe]

Is this a tariff thread now?  I thought we were talkin' summit.

   I was just noting the historical similarities between the two @Emjay, don't bust my balls this early.

[txradioguy]

@txradioguy
Doesn't mean he's less qualified.

Didn't say that he wasn't.  But ol Tom makes it sound like graduating from the Husdon High School for Boys is the end all be all of qualifications for office.

I'd remind him that Spencer Rapone is a West Point graduate as well.

He's more qualified than anyone Obama had during his terms. 

On that we agree too.

But its really results.  and while folks like you want to see Trump fail

And that's where you go off the rails of talking rationally.  I don't want him to fail.  Never have.  That's the fall back knee jerk response from anyone who views any critique of Trump as a personal insult.  You have to learn to not have such an unnatural emotional attachment to the man.  It's not healthy...its like someone getting upset at a member refers to Trump as "Trump" instead of "President Trump".

I think this summit is a very good step in the right direct.

   

Yes it is.  But again it's just that...its a step.

Its a chance to end the Korean war

We're a long way from that kind of talk like that.

and while you can make Chamberlain jokes all day long it doesn't change the fact that peace is better then war.

I made no jokes about Chamberlain.

Chamberlain was seeking peace through appeasement, just like Bush, Clinton, and Obama

And Trump....oh excuse me President Trump is appeasing Kim by saying he'll suspend joint exercises and blaming the U.S. for the Norks not living up to their end of previous agreements is appeasement.

Appeasement is not what has been happening these last 6 months.

And you know that how?  How do you know that appeasement isn't what got Kim to come to Singapore.

Oh and 20 years in the Army doesn't make you any more qualified then Pompeo.

That was the point I was trying to make.  Thank you for getting it.

[aligncare]

Curious....what will it take for you to address him as 'President' Trump and not "Mr. Trump"?   

When it comes to the difference between using Mr. Trump or President Trump, I be like: you say potatoes, I say patahtoes.

Besides, beats the more commonly used form, “that idiot in the White House.”

[edpc]

Every day for you must effing blow......I love that.

I wish I could say I love the fact schadenfreude is the highlight of your life, but it’s actually quite sad.

[Concerned]

@Concerned
When they start returning remains of our fallen troops will that count as verification for point 4 of the agreement?

Yes but when I was talking about verification, I was really referring to the stated goal of “irreversible and verifiable denuclearization”.

[driftdiver]

@txradioguy

ugh you give me a headache

[Emjay]

   I was just noting the historical similarities between the two @Emjay, don't bust my balls this early.

Okay, probably have plenty of chances later.

[txradioguy]

How about Trump handing an unstable nuclear ICBM armed dictator a 'tactical victory' for the sake of his ego would be a very very very bad thing, then.

You can't just leave it at 'nuthin'burger'?

Please quote where I said that.

[driftdiver]

Yes but when I was talking about verification, I was really referring to the stated goal of “irreversible and verifiable denuclearization”.

@Concerned
Well you didn't specify.   

That takes time, at the end of the day it will only happen if Kim and his power players think its better for them to stop then to keep the weapons.

And then you have the few hundred people working on his program, that will be in high demand in Iran and other places.

[txradioguy]

What do you mean it didn't live up to the hype?  Did Trump and Kim not kiss at the end?  You have no idea on this earth (but that never stops you) what will result from this summit.

I have a lot better...more realistic idea of what will become of this than you do or ever will.

[mystery-ak]

Curious....what will it take for you to address him as 'President' Trump and not "Mr. Trump"?   

Now you're just being petty.

Most here refer to all Presidents by their last name...Clinton, Bush, etc

[Emjay]

@txradioguy

ugh you give me a headache

I worship the ignore option on this forum.  I don't even have a gas oven to stick my head into if I read all of @txradioguy posts.  I think he's gotten worse ... I remember him being more reasonable but .... memories ...

[mystery-ak]

I worship the ignore option on this forum.  I don't even have a gas oven to stick my head into if I read all of @txradioguy posts.  I think he's gotten worse ... I remember him being more reasonable but .... memories ...

I thought I read where you put corbe on ignore?

[catfish1957]

Now you're just being petty.

Most here refer to all Presidents by their last name...Clinton, Bush, etc

I think they want us to refer him as "his most wonderful and royal highness".  Anything less would be disrespectful.   

[txradioguy]

I worship the ignore option on this forum.

I honestly wish you'd use it with me instead of just claiming you do. 

I don't even have a gas oven to stick my head into if I read all of @txradioguy posts.

https://www.searsoutlet.com/Gas-Ranges/d/products.jsp?cid=470   

I think he's gotten worse ... I remember him being more reasonable but .... memories ...

I haven't changed one bit since I got here.  I've been consistent in my posting and my thoughts on Trump...what I support that he's done and what I think he's done wrong.  I don't have this weird emotional attachment to the man like some here do where they take every single critique of him as a personal insult. 

I also don't make nasty posts to people then hide behind the victim card.

But...memories...

[Bigun]

I wish I could say I love the fact schadenfreude is the highlight of your life, but it’s actually quite sad.

@edpc

I wish that you, TBR's chief nattering nabob of negativity, would just STFU for a little while!

[txradioguy]

@txradioguy

ugh you give me a headache

Truth can be painful sometimes.

[edpc]

I wish that you, TBR's chief nattering nabob of negativity, would just STFU for a little while!

There’s an expression about wishing in one hand that fits your dilemma.

[driftdiver]

Truth can be painful sometimes.

@txradioguy
I was gonna give you credit for using a capital T in truth but then its the first word of the sentence so you lost credit.

[skeeter]

Truth can be painful sometimes.

Oh, bother.

[txradioguy]

@txradioguy
I was gonna give you credit for using a capital T in truth but then its the first word of the sentence so you lost credit.

Well considering most of the writing I do for work has to be done in all caps...the fact I'm able to use upper and lower case on TBR is a win for me.