USA & No Korea Summit LIVE THREAD

[corbe]

   PM Chamberlain was also a Tariff Loving Conservative /JS

[txradioguy]

The only ones criticizing this summit at this point is the American and international Left. I hope NeverTrumpers mull that over.

No not really.  Some of us are still living in reality and realize that other than a photo op this was a big nothing burger.  It didn't live up to the breathless hype the Trump cult built it up to be.

[edpc]

The only ones criticizing this summit at this point is the American and international Left. I hope NeverTrumpers mull that over.

The only ones buying into this sudden Kim Jong Un epiphany are ignoring seven decades of North Korean double dealing, treachery, and lying under a Kim family dynasty.  I hope they mull that over.

[mystery-ak]

No not really.  Some of us are still living in reality and realize that other than a photo op this was a big nothing burger.  It didn't live up to the breathless hype the Trump cult built it up to be.

Well I disagree..I think it was a historic moment...now we go into the Trust but Verify mode

[mystery-ak]

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[Concerned]

Well I disagree..I think it was a historic moment...now we go into the Trust but Verify mode

But there's nothing in the joint statement agreed to by Trump and Kim that allow us to "verify". 

[thackney]

[Bigun]

Well I disagree..I think it was a historic moment...now we go into the Trust but Verify mode

   We cannot know what will come of this in the end but it's definitely NOT  a nothing burger!  Not by any stretch!

[TomSea]

Pompeo, #1 West Point grad, so take that experience.

[mystery-ak]

But there's nothing in the joint statement agreed to by Trump and Kim that allow us to "verify".

We will have to wait and see what comes next..this was only the initial meeting with more to follow.

[txradioguy]

Well I disagree..I think it was a historic moment...now we go into the Trust but Verify mode

Historic in the fact we actually got the little despot to the table.  But that's as far as it goes.  This isn't Reagan at the Reykjavík Summit or Nixon going to China.

It's actually a propaganda and a tactical win for the NORKS.

[txradioguy]

But there's nothing in the joint statement agreed to by Trump and Kim that allow us to "verify".

Bingo.

[driftdiver]

Your self admitted limited knowledge of the situation is glaring in that statement.

The "drawback" is there was nothing important that came out of this talk for the U.S. or our ROK allies...but plenty of propaganda for the NORKS.  There's no details...no substance...just a lot of fluff and hot air.

And for anyone who knows anything about the Korean peninsula and the unstable nature of the leaders in the North...Lil Kim could very easily get back to Pyongyang and order his generals to implement the attack plan to reunite the two Koreas.

@txradioguy
Well anyone who knows anything about the Korean peninsula knows that if the North attacks the South any hope of reunification will evaporate.   He can kill a lot of people but he won't unite the people through force.

[skeeter]

Historic in the fact we actually got the little despot to the table.  But that's as far as it goes.  This isn't Reagan at the Reykjavík Summit or Nixon going to China.

It's actually a propaganda and a tactical win for the NORKS.

Can't you guys just leave it at 'its a nuthingburger'?

Do you have to take it that ludicrous extra step and call it a catastrophe?

[driftdiver]

Historic in the fact we actually got the little despot to the table.  But that's as far as it goes.  This isn't Reagan at the Reykjavík Summit or Nixon going to China.

It's actually a propaganda and a tactical win for the NORKS.

@txradioguy
The tactical situation has not changed.

[INVAR]

We will have to wait and see what comes next..this was only the initial meeting with more to follow.

My suspicions are that this entire deal was crafty marketing and illusion for public consumption by BOTH egomaniacs representing their nations.

Both guys get to bask in the illusion of legitimacy, with only North Korea benefitting the most from the photo-ops, while Trump does what he does best: craft reality TV and marketing his image. 

Those are my suspicions about this entire "event".  When and if Lil' Kim allows UN inspectors into his country to verify that he has indeed de-nuclearized, will be the only evidence that Trump accomplished what he is selling and marketing.

[txradioguy]

Pompeo, #1 West Point grad, so take that experience.

West Point is a fine institution...and the Long Gray Line has produced some of the finest military leaders the world has ever seen.  But just because you graduate from there doesn't give you the experience needed to be a politician or hold a cabinet position.  Very rarely have military officers made good politicians.

[driftdiver]

My suspicions are that this entire deal was crafty marketing and illusion for public consumption by BOTH egomaniacs representing their nations.

Both guys get to bask in the illusion of legitimacy, with only North Korea benefitting the most from the photo-ops, while Trump does what he does best: craft reality TV and marketing his image. 

Those are my suspicions about this entire "event".  When and if Lil' Kim allows UN inspectors into his country to verify that he has indeed de-nuclearized, will be the only evidence that Trump accomplished what he is selling and marketing.

Trump has a plan.

[txradioguy]

@txradioguy
The tactical situation has not changed.

That remains to be seen.  I know USFK has said they haven't been notified of any changes to the joint training schedule...but that won't stop Kim from saying otherwise and using any joint exercise...to include EIB or EFMB competitions as an excuse to say the U.S. violated its promise in Singapore.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

I don't have any children, but I think even suggesting killing children is reprehensible.  Have a good day.   

Nice punt on your point that a great dealmaker should be able to get anyone to agree to anything.

[txradioguy]

Can't you guys just leave it at 'its a nuthingburger'?

Do you have to take it that ludicrous extra step and call it a catastrophe?

Ummm I didn't say that it was a catastrophe.

[thackney]

Historic in the fact we actually got the little despot to the table.  But that's as far as it goes.  This isn't Reagan at the Reykjavík Summit or Nixon going to China.

So, what was the result of the first day of that visit?  Verifiable agreements or just a beginning of the work yet to come?

[endicom]

   @TomSea and @Maj. Bill Martin bring up a very salient point, we just can't possibly know what just transpired in Singapore, other than optics for awhile. 
   Sure didn't take this guy long to be shown the complete idiot that he was.

Kim now has Sudetenland? Damn!

[edpc]

West Point is a fine institution...and the Long Gray Line has produced some of the finest military leaders the world has ever seen.  But just because you graduate from there doesn't give you the experience needed to be a politician or hold a cabinet position.  Very rarely have military officers made good politicians.

Exactly.  The Class of 1915 included Bradley and Eisenhower.  The valedictorian was William Covell.  Who knows who he is without looking him up?

[driftdiver]

That remains to be seen.  I know USFK has said they haven't been notified of any changes to the joint training schedule...but that won't stop Kim from saying otherwise and using any joint exercise...to include EIB or EFMB competitions as an excuse to say the U.S. violated its promise in Singapore.

Which means jack squat related to the tactical situation.   Our troops there still have squadrons of F-16s ready to take off on short notice.  Many bombs are on base, probably some tactical nuclear since they were moved back recently.   We also have the troops in Japan.

SK military is always ready and they take it quite seriously.   So there is no increased risk of Kim trying to surprise us with a military attack.