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Muhammad Ali Attorney Calls Trump Pardon 'Unnecessary'
« on: June 09, 2018, 03:12:49 am »
The lawyer said the conviction was overturned so is a pardon even needed? Maybe not.
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Muhammad Ali Attorney Calls Trump Pardon 'Unnecessary'

President Donald Trump said Friday he is considering a pardon for the late heavyweight boxing champion Muhammad Ali, who died in 2016 — despite the fact that Ali's conviction for refusal of military service was overturned in 1971.

Trump told reporters Friday that Ali is on a list of 3,000 people he is considering for pardons because, in his words, they "really have been treated unfairly."

Ali's attorney, Ron Tweel, thanked the president, but noted that a pardon was not necessary. He told NBC News: "We appreciate President Trump's sentiment, but a pardon is unnecessary. The U.S. Supreme Court overturned the conviction of Muhammad Ali in a unanimous decision in 1971."

Read more at: https://www.voanews.com/a/muhammad-ali-attorney-calls-donald-trump-pardon-unnecessary/4431082.html

And if one goes on to read this article, Jimmy Carter issued a blanket pardon on his first day in office to all who evaded the draft. So, that would have cleared Ali as well, it seems. I did not know any of this. Maybe it was covered in the forum.

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Re: Muhammad Ali Attorney Calls Trump Pardon 'Unnecessary'
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2018, 05:51:17 am »
But isn't it really the thought which counts?    :cool:
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Re: Muhammad Ali Attorney Calls Trump Pardon 'Unnecessary'
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2018, 06:10:47 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on June 09, 2018, 05:51:17 am
But isn't it really the thought which counts?    :cool:

Thought?


None dare call it "thought".
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Re: Muhammad Ali Attorney Calls Trump Pardon 'Unnecessary'
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2018, 10:42:14 am »
The greatest part of Clay's legacy is that as an American, he stood on principle and faced up to the legal consequence of his convictions.  Instead of running to Canada and badmouthing the US, he did his time with grace and continued to love his country.
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Re: Muhammad Ali Attorney Calls Trump Pardon 'Unnecessary'
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2018, 12:24:13 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on June 09, 2018, 10:42:14 am
The greatest part of Clay's legacy is that as an American, he stood on principle and faced up to the legal consequence of his convictions.  Instead of running to Canada and badmouthing the US, he did his time with grace and continued to love his country.

Yeah, I'll give him that.  Good point, Hoody.   He wasn't just words,  he was willing to pay the cost.   And having seen the world, he recognized that America is an experiment worth fighting for.   

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Re: Muhammad Ali Attorney Calls Trump Pardon 'Unnecessary'
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2018, 12:32:39 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on June 09, 2018, 10:42:14 am
The greatest part of Clay's legacy is that as an American, he stood on principle and faced up to the legal consequence of his convictions.  Instead of running to Canada and badmouthing the US, he did his time with grace and continued to love his country.

Not that I want to argue the merits of the conflict, but tell that to the 50K families who lost young men there. 

Furthermore, is fame would have pretty much precluded him seeing any combat.  His presence over there could have been a great morale booster, aka ....in the vein of a USO show.  Instead.......     
« Last Edit: June 09, 2018, 12:45:34 pm by catfish1957 »
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