This Is Why We Will Never Register Our Guns Or Cooperate With Government Mandates

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

Amazes me that some believe Rights can be Regulated.

Or we need to dive into a 'Predicate Clause'.

But then actually being able to Read and Understand the English Language is a dying art.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/infringe

It's only 4 words.

Those who can't understand the plain as day term "Infringe" have no business in this or any other argument as they're functional illiterates.

[skeeter]

@skeeter
Probably wise, which is not something I'm usually accused of.

The left has pushed their agenda unhindered for decades.  No more, I am going to speak out and push back on these scum who want to destroy America.

Admirable. But ill advised in my state - just making it easy for them at this point.

There is a time and place.

[Cyber Liberty]

Exactly.  You complied, simply because the government gave you the right incentives. 

If you become subject to a registration law, you’ll bend over and take it as well, with similar incentivization.

As you are so fond of saying of others when they make personal observations about you, you don't know shit from Shinola what the members of this forum are going to do if faced with mandatory gun registration.

[RoosGirl]

As you are so fond of saying of others when they make personal observations about you, you don't know shit from Shinola what the members of this forum are going to do if faced with mandatory gun registration.

Another thread where the mood needs to be lightened a bit with a joke.  Why does NJ have the most toxic waste dumps and CA have the most lawyers?  NJ got to pick first.

[txradioguy]

Another thread where the mood needs to be lightened a bit with a joke.  Why does NJ have the most toxic waste dumps and CA have the most lawyers?  NJ got to pick first.

You know what happens when a lawyer takes Viagra?  He get's taller.

[Oceander]

As you are so fond of saying of others when they make personal observations about you, you don't know shit from Shinola what the members of this forum are going to do if faced with mandatory gun registration.

Touched a nerve, eh?  Do you have the courage of your own words, let alone your convictions?

Don’t be pathetic by trying to answer.  It’s a rhetorical question for you to consider when you look at yourself in the mirror, because the only public answer is that, of course, you have the courage of your convictions. 

[Oceander]

Another thread where the mood needs to be lightened a bit with a joke.  Why does NJ have the most toxic waste dumps and CA have the most lawyers?  NJ got to pick first.

It should by NY, not CA, in the classic rendition of the joke. 

What do you get when you cross a lawyer with a pig?

Nothing.  There are some things even pigs won’t do. 

[Oceander]

Another thread where the mood needs to be lightened a bit with a joke.  Why does NJ have the most toxic waste dumps and CA have the most lawyers?  NJ got to pick first.

Why are medical experimenters planning to shift from using rats to lawyers?

Because there are more lawyers than rats, and it’s too easy to get emotionally attached to a rat. 

[Cyber Liberty]

Touched a nerve, eh?  Do you have the courage of your own words, let alone your convictions?

Don’t be pathetic by trying to answer.  It’s a rhetorical question for you to consider when you look at yourself in the mirror, because the only public answer is that, of course, you have the courage of your convictions.

You didn't pick a nerve (you can't), because I care very little about what you have to say.  But I am getting bored with your act of pretending to know how others think around here, so I'm going to call you on your extra-idiotic comments.  Especially when you demonstrate your enormous hypocrisy.

If you call for firearm registration, and you don't volunteer to do the canvassing yourself, you are beyond a hypocrite, you are a coward too.  Meh.

[txradioguy]

If you call for firearm registration, and you don't volunteer to do the canvassing yourself, you are beyond a hypocrite, you are a coward too.  Meh.

@Cyber Liberty I have the distinct feeling he'd be the neighborhood snitch tot he authorities letting them know who wasn't in compliance.

[RoosGirl]

It should by NY, not CA, in the classic rendition of the joke. 

What do you get when you cross a lawyer with a pig?

Nothing.  There are some things even pigs won’t do. 

We're telling jokes, why aren't you?

[roamer_1]

It works in the case of automobile registration.  Almost all transfers of ownership, and dispositions, are documented.

LOL! Not even close!

[WingNot]

During the mid-1980s dairy farmers decided there was too much cheap milk at the supermarket. So the government bought and slaughtered 1.6 million cows. How come the government never does anything like this with lawyers?

[INVAR]

So much guff and bravado.  All of which will evaporate like the morning dew if registration ever becomes law.

Registration of firearms was mandated where I once lived, followed shortly by the banning of any possession of firearms or knives over 14" in a residence. 

I refused to comply.  Even when the village Ordinance posse showed up on my doorstep to do their "inspection".  I refused them entry and told them to get a warrant instead of flashing a village ordinance in my face.  They came back with a hefty fine, which I refused to pay to this day.

It was the final straw that got us to move from that place to where a little bit more freedom existed.

You are dismissing the mindset we have that if this kind of bullshit is attempted on a national scale, then the government has nefarious intents towards us.  Given history, a disarmed people are eventually bulldozed into mass graves by their own government.  So - since that is our mindset of what registration and confiscation will lead to - it's pretty presumptuous to assume we are just going to comply with the mechanisms for our own enslavement and annihilation.

[txradioguy]

During the mid-1980s dairy farmers decided there was too much cheap milk at the supermarket. So the government bought and slaughtered 1.6 million cows. How come the government never does anything like this with lawyers?

Because they don't kill their own.

[WingNot]

Because they don't kill their own.

Never thought of that.  The DC swamp it tits high in shysters, some are even lawyers.

[Jazzhead]

  Or would you rely on the GOVT and their guns to attack law abiding citizens to fuel your utopian fantasy?

Wait just a sec - by your own admission you're not law-abiding.   How are you in your demand to pick and choose the laws you'll follow any different than the illegal aliens that you scream must be rounded up and deported?   

[roamer_1]

Yes, it does.  Such transactions are very uncommon.  That's because a car that is registered to you remains your legal responsibility.  Documenting the transfer relieves you of that responsibility.   Registration has been very effective in curbing the black market.   

No, that is not true. Not in the least. Last year, a truck my son sold FOUR YEARS before got involved in a hit and run, and was later found abandoned. The cops inquired of my son, who was the last owner, but that is as far as it went. That truck was driving around for four years, untitled, uninsured, and with fictitious plates.

Like with your gun grabbing registration, all that automotive registration does is keep honest folks honest.

[txradioguy]

Wait just a sec - by your own admission you're not law-abiding.   How are you in your demand to pick and choose the laws you'll follow any different than the illegal aliens that you scream must be rounded up and deported?

Back to that non sequitur again counselor? 

[Cyber Liberty]

@Cyber Liberty I have the distinct feeling he'd be the neighborhood snitch tot he authorities letting them know who wasn't in compliance.

I'm sure there will be plenty of snitches and busybodies.  These idiots are going to get people killed when the authorities decide to start playing hardball with gun owners.

Trayvon Martin made the mistake of thinking Zimmerman would be a compliant pushover and take the beating, and look where that got him.

[Jazzhead]

Registration of firearms was mandated where I once lived, followed shortly by the banning of any possession of firearms or knives over 14" in a residence. 

I refused to comply.  Even when the village Ordinance posse showed up on my doorstep to do their "inspection".  I refused them entry and told them to get a warrant instead of flashing a village ordinance in my face.  They came back with a hefty fine, which I refused to pay to this day.

It was the final straw that got us to move from that place to where a little bit more freedom existed.

You are dismissing the mindset we have that if this kind of bullshit is attempted on a national scale, then the government has nefarious intents towards us.  Given history, a disarmed people are eventually bulldozed into mass graves by their own government.  So - since that is our mindset of what registration and confiscation will lead to - it's pretty presumptuous to assume we are just going to comply with the mechanisms for our own enslavement and annihilation.

You have contempt for the nation you live in if you claim the right to selectively ignore the law.    You don't want freedom, you want license.   So don't holler about illegal aliens - you're just as morally compromised.   

[roamer_1]

C'mon, sir, the community does have an interest in curbing the black market in guns.

Your registration scheme will do *nothing* to stop black market, or even street trading. Nothing at all. Just as it does nothing to curb gun trade in your town right now.

[Cyber Liberty]

Wait just a sec - by your own admission you're not law-abiding.   

You haven't been paying much attention to this discussion.  None of us are law-abiding because we are under such a ridiculous load of defined "crimes" that it's impossible to live without breaking some.

I'm not saying if or how I am not law-abiding.  It's for me to know and others to find out.  I want it to be a surprise.

[txradioguy]

You have contempt for the nation you live in if you claim the right to selectively ignore the law.    You don't want freedom, you want license.   So don't holler about illegal aliens - you're just as morally compromised.

Hardly.  Your apples and oranges non sequitur argument comparing illegal aliens and American citizens saying they will not comply with any government mandate that violates the Constitution have nothing to do with each other in any way shape or form.

And it's really hypocritical of you to try and make that argument when you selectively pick and choose when you like and dislike judicial over reach from the bench.

[Jazzhead]

Those who can't understand the plain as day term "Infringe" have no business in this or any other argument as they're functional illiterates.

You mean like Justice Scalia?    Read his Heller opinion - reasonable regulation of the market for firearms is not unconstitutional infringement.