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You NTs bitch and moan about everything Trump.  he doesn't do this in a day, he didn't do that.     He's pointing out that Amazon (among others) is getting a huge benefit that is screwing the taxpayers and you folks defend the leftists.

Yes you defend the leftists.   Now inquiring minds find that curious and wonder why on earth you would defend the fleecing of taxpayers.


I don’t begrudge Trump writing off $900M in losses through tax law.  It was legal and something he’s quite proud of doing.  He can go bleep in his MAGA hat about someone else benefiting from lousy government policy.

I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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Yes god forbid we question the moron moves by the Dear Leader. Amazon did nothing wrong or illegal. I'll say this again, the only reason that Trump is after Amazon cause Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post.

I take offense at you using ex presidents Obama's  title in your post to reference Mr. Trump.

Please correct this egregious error or I shall have to report you the the management of the establishment.

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Yeah, I told him that.  He won't believe you.  I posted proof in the form of a statement directly from the USPS saying such.  But no, this is NT's fault for bitching about everything Trump does.   *****rollingeyes*****

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Amazon is already developing it's own "Prime Air" delivery service.  At some point in the near future they won't need the USPS at all.

If the President continues his uninformed attack on Amazon it will do nothing but speed up Amazon's plans.

Then everyone can sit around and bitch about back in the day when it used to cost .50 to mail a letter when now it costs $5.
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I don’t begrudge Trump writing off $900M in losses through tax law.  It was legal and something he’s quite proud of doing.  He can go bleep in his MAGA hat about someone else benefiting from lousy government policy.

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Yes and damn ANYONE who makes any comments about EVER trying to change said policy.   Yep its the LAW so its ok.
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No, its all your fault.  Everything is your fault.  Probably because you're a chick.

Just admit you're wrong on this.  I've provided proof.  You're wrong.

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Just admit you're wrong on this.  I've provided proof.  You're wrong.

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No, I'm just not simple minded enough to believe that an organization with 100% of every customer in the market and still loses money every single year is being truthful when they say they are delivering these packages at more than their cost.

hmmmm funny dat
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Free, yes indeed.  Bernie says a lot of things are free

Bernie...like Trump wants to punish those that are successful despite Government roadblocks.

I pay @119 a year to get most of what I buy from Amazon for free.  And for the ability to use the streaming services and the other wonderful features of my Amazon Echo.

And unlike Bernie...I believe if you want something you have to pay for it...not have it handed to you for nothing.
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Just admit you're wrong on this.  I've provided proof.  You're wrong.

He won't.  The stress of it would be too much.
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Nope.  I just paid attention in school when it came to economics. 

The Post Office set up the crappy business model.  It's not Amazon's nor any other online retailer's fault and they shouldn't be punished or excoriated for taking advantage of the current business model the USPS has going.


Especially when it's the only profitable part of the postal system these days.

It's the same business model for shipping that Trump took advantage of with Trump Steaks

If Jeff Bezos was the CEO of any other online sales company Trump would still come after him and bash the company.  In reality this has nothing to do with economics or the postal service.

Trumps rage isn't about Amazon...it's about Bezos and the crappy coverage Trump gets in the Washington Post.

I see a correlation here.  For years the idiot left has been demonizing Walmart for (gasp!) offering lower (affordable) prices for their goods... with the accusation being they're putting "mom & pop shops" out of business.   Well, if mom & pop shops charge more for their goods ... then perhaps the free market, working as it's supposed to, is what's putting them out of biz.... not Walmart.

Same thing here with Amazon.  If Amazon can provide services cheaper than the propped up, ever-increasingly inefficient Post Office.... that's also a product of the free market... and Trump should stay the hell out of it with his petty tweet-wars crap.  Amazon is doing nothing illegal, IOW. 

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No, I'm just not simple minded enough to believe that an organization with 100% of every customer in the market and still loses money every single year is being truthful when they say they are delivering these packages at more than their cost.

hmmmm funny dat

You should contact your congressman then and have him look into how the USPS is breaking federal law.  Or you could look a little more into it and understand what the USPS is actually loosing money on.  Hint: It ain't Amazon packages.

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Bernie...like Trump wants to punish those that are successful despite Government roadblocks.

I pay @119 a year to get most of what I buy from Amazon for free.  And for the ability to use the streaming services and the other wonderful features of my Amazon Echo.

And unlike Bernie...I believe if you want something you have to pay for it...not have it handed to you for nothing.

Hey, don't say that too loudly and give the ratfink socialists any 'more' ideas.  Next thing ya know, they'll be whining about their constituents (Holder's people?) not all having Amazon Echo and equal access to Alexa.

I'm still laughing at all the folks that feel the need to grocery shop with an Obamaphone stuck in their ear. 
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Same thing here with Amazon.  If Amazon can provide services cheaper than the propped up, ever-increasingly inefficient Post Office.... that's also a product of the free market... and Trump should stay the hell out of it with his petty tweet-wars crap.  Amazon is doing nothing illegal, IOW.

EXACTLY!
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He won't.  The stress of it would be too much.

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Says the guy that thinks things are free.   FREEE I say.
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Just admit you're wrong on this.  I've provided proof.  You're wrong.

Of course, by law the USPS must cover their costs with their competitive package delivery products including Amazon.  This has been addressed ad nauseam.  Trump beats this drum apparently as a result of a personal vendetta against Bezos.  Like Trump himself, some of his supporters are just incapable of saying something like:  "I was wrong on the facts.  Thank you for providing me with correct and accurate information."
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Hey, don't say that too loudly and give the ratfink socialists any 'more' ideas.  Next thing ya know, they'll be whining about their constituents (Holder's people?) not all having Amazon Echo and equal access to Alexa.

Nah the freebie will be the Google Home. 

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I'm still laughing at all the folks that feel the need to grocery shop with an Obamaphone stuck in their ear.

Yeah...funny how that works.
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Says the guy that thinks things are free.   FREEE I say.

You say that...I never have.  Once again you're showing your admitted compunction for lying about what people actually said and not caring.
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I see a correlation here.  For years the idiot left has been demonizing Walmart for (gasp!) offering lower (affordable) prices for their goods... with the accusation being they're putting "mom & pop shops" out of business.   Well, if mom & pop shops charge more for their goods ... then perhaps the free market, working as it's supposed to, is what's putting them out of biz.... not Walmart.

Same thing here with Amazon.  If Amazon can provide services cheaper than the propped up, ever-increasingly inefficient Post Office.... that's also a product of the free market... and Trump should stay the hell out of it with his petty tweet-wars crap.  Amazon is doing nothing illegal, IOW.


I remember some people at the TOS attacking Walmart for that reason.
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You say that...I never have.  Once again you're showing your admitted compunction for lying about what people actually said and not caring.

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Sorry my man, you said it.  Just scroll up - then read it and weep.   Now it may be free to you in that you don't see a line item on your receipt but you are certainly paying for it.  Just as we all are.    Just because you don't like what Trump said that does not mean he's a dictator or wrong.   

The post office has been a poorly managed pseudo govt agency for decades which has consistently lost money.  Money which the American taxpayer has to cough up.   

Now perhaps you are happy with the status quo but I think it should change.   
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Sorry my man, you said it.  Just scroll up - then read it and weep.   Now it may be free to you in that you don't see a line item on your receipt but you are certainly paying for it.  Just as we all are.    Just because you don't like what Trump said that does not mean he's a dictator or wrong.   

The post office has been a poorly managed pseudo govt agency for decades which has consistently lost money.  Money which the American taxpayer has to cough up.   

Now perhaps you are happy with the status quo but I think it should change.

Please show me where I said that I think things are free or should be free.

Go ahead I'll wait while you spin and BS your way out of admitting I never said anything like that.
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Good grief its really time to take a deep breath.

The post office gave Amazon a price which is below their cost.   That means the taxpayer is currently paying part of the delivery cost for every Amazon package delivered.

Only a lunatic would want that to continue.

Which has been shown over and over and over, is a blatant lie- it is not below their cost. USPS has come out with this and their financials show this. It is a bulk discount but they are still making a profit on it. At that, package delivery is pretty much the USPS's only profitable area and is keeping them afloat.

Translated- the president has been lying through his teeth about this.

Where the USPS is losing money is in the requirement to pre-fund 70 years of pensions (where most companies are only required to fund 20 years). That is a unique government requirement on them. SO the government, not Amazon is causing them to lose money and need taxpayer subsidization.

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Please show me where I said that I think things are free or should be free.

Go ahead I'll wait while you spin and BS your way out of admitting I never said anything like that.

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In reply #21 you said "I have Prime so my shipping is free." as a reply to shipping costs.  Implying the shipping is actually free of cost.  Since we're talking about shipping and not personal cost.

but you'll whine and cry and say I've taken your "free" comment out of context.    don't worry we all know that you really mean you don't care who pays for the shipping as long as its not on your credit card.
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Which has been shown over and over and over, is a blatant lie- it is not below their cost. USPS has come out with this and their financials show this. It is a bulk discount but they are still making a profit on it. At that, package delivery is pretty much the USPS's only profitable area and is keeping them afloat.

Translated- the president has been lying through his teeth about this.

Where the USPS is losing money is in the requirement to pre-fund 70 years of pensions (where most companies are only required to fund 20 years). That is a unique government requirement on them. SO the government, not Amazon is causing them to lose money and need taxpayer subsidization.

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So the USPS is losing money but really they are making money.

The Bernie school of finance strikes again.
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