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Trump Proposes Cutting Planned Parenthood Funds. What Does That Mean?
« on: May 19, 2018, 02:03:18 pm »
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https://khn.org/news/trump-proposes-cutting-planned-parenthood-funds-what-does-that-mean/

The planned revival of a policy dating to Ronald Reagan’s presidency may finally present a way for President Donald Trump to fulfill his campaign promise to “defund” Planned Parenthood. Or at least to evict it from the federal family planning program, where it provides care to more than 40 percent of that program’s 4 million patients.

Congress last year failed to wipe out funding for Planned Parenthood, because the bill faced overwhelming Democratic objections and would not have received the 60 votes needed to pass in the Senate.

But the imposition of a slightly retooled version of a regulation, which was upheld by the Supreme Court in 1991 after a five-year fight, could potentially accomplish what Congress could not.
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Re: Trump Proposes Cutting Planned Parenthood Funds. What Does That Mean?
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2018, 02:09:45 pm »
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Eventually the rule was in effect for only about a month before it was again blocked by a U.S. appeals court. President Bill Clinton canceled the rules by executive order on his second day in office, and no other president tried to revive them until now.


Finally an explanation of why Trump didn't include this restriction.  Thank you, @To-Whose-Benefit?
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Re: Trump Proposes Cutting Planned Parenthood Funds. What Does That Mean?
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2018, 11:13:56 pm »
We all know what a Trump promise means.  Nothing.
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Re: Trump Proposes Cutting Planned Parenthood Funds. What Does That Mean?
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2018, 11:49:05 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on May 19, 2018, 11:13:56 pm
We all know what a Trump promise means.  Nothing.

Heh, a little too early to be soused 'Eh? So you must be trolling.


To which, the most simple of replies destroys.... Maybe you should ask the Israelis ..... what a Trump promise means. There are of course , plenty of others... but this is most Poignant. I should think.
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Re: Trump Proposes Cutting Planned Parenthood Funds. What Does That Mean?
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2018, 12:41:36 am »
Quote from: Once-Ler on May 19, 2018, 11:13:56 pm
We all know what a Trump promise means.  Nothing.

The proposal was evidently sent to OMB, but you're right...the Trump Administration has done a lot of "studying" things without then following through on them.  We'll see.
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Re: Trump Proposes Cutting Planned Parenthood Funds. What Does That Mean?
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2018, 01:03:16 am »
Quote from: Fantom on May 19, 2018, 11:49:05 pm
Heh, a little too early to be soused 'Eh? So you must be trolling.


To which, the most simple of replies destroys.... Maybe you should ask the Israelis ..... what a Trump promise means. There are of course , plenty of others... but this is most Poignant. I should think.

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Re: Trump Proposes Cutting Planned Parenthood Funds. What Does That Mean?
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2018, 01:28:59 am »
So this was upheld by SCOTUS in 1991?  It will be interesting to see how the Hawaiian Judge twists the language to justify blocking this.  Surely there has been some decision in the past quarter century he can use to distort that precedent.
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Re: Trump Proposes Cutting Planned Parenthood Funds. What Does That Mean?
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2018, 01:36:49 am »
I firmly believe, we are lucky to even see the GOP in the White House, Obama's 8 years, seemed like it could turn into 12 years of Democrats, maybe even 16 and you know, they want the demographics to change... Obama was our first Hispanic prez. or something, brown was the new white... and believe me, I hate identity politics, we are all Americans in this together.  The big tent is for all.
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Re: Trump Proposes Cutting Planned Parenthood Funds. What Does That Mean?
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2018, 01:38:03 am »
Those pro-life organizations and social conservative organizations like Concerned Women of America have lauded what Trump has done...sure, that Omnibus was weak, it wasn't the doing of one man.
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Re: Trump Proposes Cutting Planned Parenthood Funds. What Does That Mean?
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2018, 02:19:02 am »
Quote from: To-Whose-Benefit? on May 19, 2018, 02:03:18 pm
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Julie Rovner   
May 18, 2018

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https://khn.org/news/trump-proposes-cutting-planned-parenthood-funds-what-does-that-mean/

The planned revival of a policy dating to Ronald Reagan’s presidency may finally present a way for President Donald Trump to fulfill his campaign promise to “defund” Planned Parenthood. Or at least to evict it from the federal family planning program, where it provides care to more than 40 percent of that program’s 4 million patients.

Congress last year failed to wipe out funding for Planned Parenthood, because the bill faced overwhelming Democratic objections and would not have received the 60 votes needed to pass in the Senate.

But the imposition of a slightly retooled version of a regulation, which was upheld by the Supreme Court in 1991 after a five-year fight, could potentially accomplish what Congress could not.

This is a good move.  Planned Parenthood is much ballyhooed as a provider of feminine healthcare for the poor, but, in fact, PP doesn't provide much besides birth control counseling and abortion.  They refer their patients out for actual services like mammograms.

Of course, this regulation will have to jump through the usual hoops but with Trump's support has a decent chance of making it.

Everyone knows that Planned Parenthood sells baby parts, a particularly disgusting and ghoulish part of their money making but they deny this.
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Re: Trump Proposes Cutting Planned Parenthood Funds. What Does That Mean?
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2018, 02:20:45 am »
Quote from: TomSea on May 20, 2018, 01:36:49 am
I firmly believe, we are lucky to even see the GOP in the White House, Obama's 8 years, seemed like it could turn into 12 years of Democrats, maybe even 16 and you know, they want the demographics to change... Obama was our first Hispanic prez. or something, brown was the new white... and believe me, I hate identity politics, we are all Americans in this together.  The big tent is for all.

@TomSea   Every once in a while I have to strongly agree with you.

We are incredibly lucky that Trump won.  8 year of Obama followed by 4 years of Hillary is a nightmare I'm glad I don't have to think about.
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Re: Trump Proposes Cutting Planned Parenthood Funds. What Does That Mean?
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2018, 02:27:30 am »
Fantom is correct too, sometimes, others attitudes and conduct are baffling and puzzling.
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Re: Trump Proposes Cutting Planned Parenthood Funds. What Does That Mean?
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2018, 08:09:51 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on May 20, 2018, 02:20:45 am
@TomSea   Every once in a while I have to strongly agree with you.

We are incredibly lucky that Trump won.  8 year of Obama followed by 4 years of Hillary is a nightmare I'm glad I don't have to think about.
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Re: Trump Proposes Cutting Planned Parenthood Funds. What Does That Mean?
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2018, 01:00:36 am »
Quote from: Once-Ler on May 19, 2018, 11:13:56 pm
We all know what a Trump promise means.  Nothing.


Not quite nothing, but in this case, not as much as you'd think.


“This proposal does not necessarily defund Planned Parenthood, as long as they’re willing to disentangle taxpayer funds from abortion as a method of family planning, which is required by the Title X law. Any grantees that perform, support, or refer for abortion have a choice – disentangle themselves from abortion or fund their activities with privately raised funds,” the official told the Standard.

Even apart from that, much of the hundreds of millions in annual federal money Planned Parenthood gets comes from Medicaid, which would not be affected by the rule change. Cutting it off would require legislation.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/17/planned-parenthood-federal-funding-be-cut-trump-ad/
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