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Trump acknowledges Cohen payment on disclosure form
« on: May 17, 2018, 12:05:23 am »
Trump acknowledges Cohen payment on disclosure form
By Jordan Fabian - 05/16/18 01:40 PM EDT

President Trump officially acknowledged for the first time Wednesday that he paid his personal attorney, Michael Cohen, more than $100,000 in order to reimburse him for expenses he incurred during the 2016 election.

Trump’s financial disclosure, released Wednesday by the Office of Government Ethics (OGE), did not list the specific reason for the payment.

But Cohen has said he paid adult-film star Stormy Daniels $130,000 in exchange for her silence about her allegations she had a sexual encounter with Trump in 2006.

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Re: Trump acknowledges Cohen payment on disclosure form
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2018, 02:11:59 am »
The president's team wrote that Cohen “sought reimbursement of those expenses and Mr. Trump fully reimbursed Mr. Cohen in 2017.” It listed the value of the reimbursement between $100,001 and $250,000.

Well, that doesn’t square with what Trump said on Air Force One last month.  Also, in March, Cohen released a carefully worded statement saying neither the campaign nor the Trump Organization repaid him.  That left open the fact Trump repaid him directly.  Unfortunately, the gross mishandling and contradictions have practically guaranteed depositions in the future.
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Re: Trump acknowledges Cohen payment on disclosure form
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2018, 06:06:39 am »
I don't understand how anyone can ignore the lying involved here, or even with regard to the Russian "adoption" meeting.
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Re: Trump acknowledges Cohen payment on disclosure form
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2018, 10:38:09 am »
The reimbursement is being classified as for "expenses."   Without an explanation, it allows Trump deniability as to what the amount is for.  If there is no explanation, then Cohen is one shady attorney.  Reputable attorneys itemize every expense.  In most of the firms I worked for, the bills also included details of every service -- every phone call, meeting, deposition or court appearance.  They just didn't hand a bill to a client for $130,000 with no explanation.  If you were billed $130,000. would you pay it without knowing what it was for?  If Trump did that, then he isn't the genius or the savvy businessman Trump supporters say he is.

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Re: Trump acknowledges Cohen payment on disclosure form
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2018, 01:40:15 pm »
Now we know why Rudy said what he did on Hannity's show.
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Re: Trump acknowledges Cohen payment on disclosure form
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2018, 01:44:47 pm »
I don't understand how anyone can ignore the lying involved here, or even with regard to the Russian "adoption" meeting.

Because your fellow travelers like Hitlary have been committing crimes for a decade or so without so much of a blip on the radar. Precedent has been set. No one gives a rats ass now. Welcome to the world you created.

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Re: Trump acknowledges Cohen payment on disclosure form
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2018, 01:47:58 pm »
I don't understand how anyone can ignore the lying involved here, or even with regard to the Russian "adoption" meeting.

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Re: Trump acknowledges Cohen payment on disclosure form
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2018, 01:51:22 pm »
Because your fellow travelers like Hitlary have been committing crimes for a decade or so without so much of a blip on the radar. Precedent has been set. No one gives a rats ass now. Welcome to the world you created.

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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2018, 01:54:20 pm »
Because your fellow travelers like Hitlary have been committing crimes for a decade or so without so much of a blip on the radar. Precedent has been set. No one gives a rats ass now. Welcome to the world you created.

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Re: Trump acknowledges Cohen payment on disclosure form
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2018, 01:59:51 pm »
Now we know why Rudy said what he did on Hannity's show.


Yes, because he knew the disclosure timeframe would be a problem. It makes his “getting the facts” a little less credible, all things considered.  Knowing this disclosure would become public and saying you don’t know when awareness of the payment occurred does not add up.
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2018, 06:44:15 pm »
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Re: Trump acknowledges Cohen payment on disclosure form
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2018, 11:53:55 am »
I don't understand how anyone can ignore the lying involved here, or even with regard to the Russian "adoption" meeting.

I think it's because so many people are hypocrites.  They're OK with lying as long as it's "their guy", but they criticize it when "the other guy" does it.  Look at deficit spending:  many of the same folks who were quite vocally against it when President Obama did it are now silent (or actually supportive) when President Trump does it.   
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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2018, 12:50:23 pm »
I think it's because so many people are hypocrites. 

So many people know and understand who the enemy is, and who is fighting them.  So many people understand now is not the time to get sidetracked by the faux morality and outrage of people with too much free time on their hands.


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Re: Trump acknowledges Cohen payment on disclosure form
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2018, 01:03:17 pm »
So many people know and understand who the enemy is, and who is fighting them.  So many people understand now is not the time to get sidetracked by the faux morality and outrage of people with too much free time on their hands.


OK, just let us know when we should express genuine moral outrage and how much time we should spend doing it.    *****rollingeyes*****
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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2018, 01:09:59 pm »
So many people know and understand who the enemy is, and who is fighting them.  So many people understand now is not the time to get sidetracked by the faux morality and outrage of people with too much free time on their hands.

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Re: Trump acknowledges Cohen payment on disclosure form
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2018, 01:13:25 pm »
So many people know and understand who the enemy is, and who is fighting them.  So many people understand now is not the time to get sidetracked by the faux morality and outrage of people with too much free time on their hands.

So many people no longer care whether their leaders are lying, chiseling, amoral snakes so long as those leaders promise them the sun, moon and stars.  Problem is, these leaders usually don't deliver even half of what they promise.  And more often than not, what these people get is what they never wanted at all. 


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Re: Trump acknowledges Cohen payment on disclosure form
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2018, 01:22:16 pm »
I think it's because so many people are hypocrites.  They're OK with lying as long as it's "their guy", but they criticize it when "the other guy" does it.  Look at deficit spending:  many of the same folks who were quite vocally against it when President Obama did it are now silent (or actually supportive) when President Trump does it.

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Re: Trump acknowledges Cohen payment on disclosure form
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2018, 01:28:35 pm »
So many people know and understand who the enemy is, and who is fighting them.  So many people understand now is not the time to get sidetracked by the faux morality and outrage of people with too much free time on their hands.

On the other hand its useful having these Stormy Daniels threads. It keeps the scolds & bathroom stall door rattlers from littering threads containing actual news.

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« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2018, 02:05:48 pm »
So many people know and understand who the enemy is, and who is fighting them.  So many people understand now is not the time to get sidetracked by the faux morality and outrage of people with too much free time on their hands.

I think it's always a time to call out lying and immortality no matter who does it, but I understand some people don't care about such principles anymore as long as it's "their guy" who does it.  That's exactly the hypocrisy I'm talking about......sadly.
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« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2018, 04:12:12 pm »

OK, just let us know when we should express genuine moral outrage and how much time we should spend doing it.    *****rollingeyes*****

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« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2018, 04:15:08 pm »
I think it's always a time to call out lying and immortality no matter who does it, but I understand some people don't care about such principles anymore as long as it's "their guy" who does it.  That's exactly the hypocrisy I'm talking about......sadly.

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Re: Trump acknowledges Cohen payment on disclosure form
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2018, 04:43:55 pm »
That's your job ... to make it all up as you go along.  And, kudos, you're quite good at it.


Trump has changed political affiliations 5 times since 2000 and has multiple contradictory stances on issues in the same timeframe, but I’m the one making things up as I go along.  That’s precious.
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« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2018, 04:51:30 pm »
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Re: Trump acknowledges Cohen payment on disclosure form
« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2018, 09:22:37 pm »
Here's your sign ....



Ah yes.  Once again we see that morality and principles are to be shamed into silence by Trumplicans who are offended when hypocrisy, malfeasance, criminality and the appearance of evil is pointed out in those in whom they have pledged eternal loyalty.   Having traded their souls, their character and our trust for the coveted prize of political power alone.

Now using liberally, the same tactics of the godless, Statist Left - even to the point of using their same memes. 

Virtue-signaling is the new 'evil' that means: ‘Shut up and don't mention your irrelevant, stupid principles and offensive purist morality - we don't want to hear it’.  To do so is offensive if not criminal in today's brave new world.

And to what end do they apply these same tactics as the leftists?

• Not to shrink government.  No, we cannot have that.  But to instead ostracize those who tell them that immorality, Statism and malfeasance is wrong, no matter who does it.

Instead it is OKAY and GOOD so long as it is their prince and their party that does it. 

• Not to lift the crushing weight of bureaucracy dictating every aspect of our lives off our backs, but to fling the crushing weight of shame upon those who dare speak the truth about those in whom no wrong must be mentioned so as to push party unity. 

• Not to muzzle the behemoth state and shove it back into the constitutional bounds and cage it has been set free from, but rather to muzzle and silence those who stand for the morals, ethics and principles that stand in the way of the political power and agenda.

Their ends are patently no different than the Democrat’s.

The ends are for political power alone, absent principles, morality and character so they can do what they want to do without restraint.  The ends by any means that now expands government into a totalitarian state as long as it is their Ceasar or their Senate controlling the levers of power and money so they can rub the faces of the plebes in it daily.

Truly, they already have their reward. 

What exists now is the politics to beat everyone into submission and silence any opposing thoughts or ideas that threaten power and control and party unity.

Just more evidence that there truly is no difference in either the Democrat or Republican parties.  They want the same exact thing from different ends serving different masters.
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Re: Trump acknowledges Cohen payment on disclosure form
« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2018, 09:27:35 pm »
Ah yes.  Once again we see that morality and principles are to be shamed into silence by Trumplicans who are offended when hypocrisy, malfeasance, criminality and the appearance of evil is pointed out in those in whom they have pledged eternal loyalty.   Having traded their souls, their character and our trust for the coveted prize of political power alone.

Now using liberally, the same tactics of the godless, Statist Left - even to the point of using their same memes. 

Virtue-signaling is the new 'evil' that means: ‘Shut up and don't mention your irrelevant, stupid principles and offensive purist morality - we don't want to hear it’.  To do so is offensive if not criminal in today's brave new world.

And to what end do they apply these same tactics as the leftists?

• Not to shrink government.  No, we cannot have that.  But to instead ostracize those who tell them that immorality, Statism and malfeasance is wrong, no matter who does it.

Instead it is OKAY and GOOD so long as it is their prince and their party that does it. 

• Not to lift the crushing weight of bureaucracy dictating every aspect of our lives off our backs, but to fling the crushing weight of shame upon those who dare speak the truth about those in whom no wrong must be mentioned so as to push party unity. 

• Not to muzzle the behemoth state and shove it back into the constitutional bounds and cage it has been set free from, but rather to muzzle and silence those who stand for the morals, ethics and principles that stand in the way of the political power and agenda.

Their ends are patently no different than the Democrat’s.

The ends are for political power alone, absent principles, morality and character so they can do what they want to do without restraint.  The ends by any means that now expands government into a totalitarian state as long as it is their Ceasar or their Senate controlling the levers of power and money so they can rub the faces of the plebes in it daily.

Truly, they already have their reward. 

What exists now is the politics to beat everyone into submission and silence any opposing thoughts or ideas that threaten power and control and party unity.

Just more evidence that there truly is no difference in either the Democrat or Republican parties.  They want the same exact thing from different ends serving different masters.

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