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Online Right_in_Virginia

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It's not a debate...it's warfare
« on: May 13, 2018, 12:33:23 pm »
It's not a debate...it's warfare
American Thinker, May 13, 2018, Robert Arvay

A conservative friend (call him Sam) and I were discussing the bizarre but common phenomenon of Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS).  As we did so, Sam expressed his growing frustration.  Each of us has, on occasion, whether online or off, attempted to reason with sufferers of TDS, but to no avail.

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I calmed Sam's frustration by giving him my take.  The TDS crowd are not victims of their syndrome.  They are soldiers, soldiers on the wrong side of a clash of worldviews that has been going on for millennia, perhaps since Cain slew Abel.  The reason they cannot be persuaded is because they are not debating; they are fighting.  They are not arguing for their beliefs, they are battling for what they perceive as their self-interest.  Their ideology is not a system of belief, but a fortification from which they can launch their attacks.

Consider:  is Congresswoman Maxine Waters a serious scholar of our constitutional system?  Would any sane person attempt to persuade her to forfeit her position of power?

Our opponents are not mere opponents.  They are resourceful, intractable, and immune to reason.  Expose their corruption, and they accuse you of doing what they did.  Debunk their argument and they change the subject.  The one and only thing they have going for them is power.  They have lots of it, and their aim is to get all of it.

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There is no point in getting angry at them.  Just defeat them.


Read more:  https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/05/its_not_a_debateits_warfare.html
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Re: It's not a debate...it's warfare
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2018, 05:02:55 pm »
People on the internet who oppose Trump shouldn't be confused with professional politicians. 
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Re: It's not a debate...it's warfare
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2018, 05:41:36 pm »
Quote from: LauraTXNM on May 13, 2018, 05:02:55 pm
People on the internet who oppose Trump shouldn't be confused with professional politicians.

I think the author's pretty clear he's talking about professionals ... politicians and pundits @LauraTXNM
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Re: It's not a debate...it's warfare
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2018, 06:18:51 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on May 13, 2018, 05:41:36 pm
I think the author's pretty clear he's talking about professionals ... politicians and pundits

But are you?
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Re: It's not a debate...it's warfare
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2018, 06:22:37 pm »
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Re: It's not a debate...it's warfare
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2018, 06:27:04 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on May 13, 2018, 06:18:51 pm
But are you?

But, of course @INVAR @RoosGirl

I had thought you both knew this.   :shrug:
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Re: It's not a debate...it's warfare
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2018, 06:32:43 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on May 13, 2018, 06:27:04 pm
But, of course @INVAR @RoosGirl

I had thought you both knew this.   :shrug:

It is not readily apparent.
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Re: It's not a debate...it's warfare
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2018, 06:49:02 pm »
Quote from: RoosGirl on May 13, 2018, 06:32:43 pm
It is not readily apparent.

Well, then I'm happy I could clear this up for you @RoosGirl
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Re: It's not a debate...it's warfare
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2018, 06:55:58 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on May 13, 2018, 06:49:02 pm
Well, then I'm happy I could clear this up for you @RoosGirl

You haven't.  Maybe the next time you make a bitchy comment to someone who disagrees with your opinion about Trump you can explain how it applies to professionals and not the person you're responding to.
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Re: It's not a debate...it's warfare
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2018, 07:16:47 pm »
Quote from: RoosGirl on May 13, 2018, 06:55:58 pm
You haven't.  Maybe the next time you make a bitchy comment to someone who disagrees with your opinion about Trump you can explain how it applies to professionals and not the person you're responding to.

How dare you denigrate "Bitchy Comments". They are the lifeblood of TBR.
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Re: It's not a debate...it's warfare
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2018, 07:17:31 pm »
Quote from: RoosGirl on May 13, 2018, 06:55:58 pm
You haven't.  Maybe the next time you make a bitchy comment to someone who disagrees with your opinion about Trump you can explain how it applies to professionals and not the person you're responding to.

Maybe next time you can try to start an argument with someone else @RoosGirl

My fingers are crossed.




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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2018, 07:17:59 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on May 13, 2018, 07:16:47 pm
How dare you denigrate "Bitchy Comments". They are the lifeblood of TBR.

Don't get me wrong, I love them, which I think is pretty obvious given my liberal use of them, but no one should be afraid to admit what they are.
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Re: It's not a debate...it's warfare
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2018, 07:18:57 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on May 13, 2018, 07:17:31 pm
Maybe next time you can try to start an argument with someone else @RoosGirl

My fingers are crossed.

It's not an argument, it's warfare!
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Re: It's not a debate...it's warfare
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2018, 07:19:54 pm »
Quote from: RoosGirl on May 13, 2018, 07:18:57 pm
It's not an argument, it's warfare!


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Re: It's not a debate...it's warfare
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2018, 07:22:42 pm »
@INVAR @RoosGirl

My goodness, isn’t the little princess’ passive aggressive schtick so cute?
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« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2018, 07:25:05 pm »
Quote from: Axeslinger on May 13, 2018, 07:22:42 pm
@INVAR @RoosGirl

My goodness, isn’t the little princess’ passive aggressive schtick so cute?

I more consider myself a queen...
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Re: It's not a debate...it's warfare
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2018, 07:31:26 pm »
Quote from: RoosGirl on May 13, 2018, 07:25:05 pm
I more consider myself a queen...
@RoosGirl
As well you should...Passive aggressive isn’t your thing...wasn’t talking about you, friend

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Re: It's not a debate...it's warfare
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2018, 07:44:56 pm »
Quote from: RoosGirl on May 13, 2018, 07:25:05 pm
I more consider myself a queen...

I prefer to let Frank reply to that quip.

It will be much better than mine I am sure.
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...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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Re: It's not a debate...it's warfare
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2018, 08:13:48 pm »
Quote from: RoosGirl on May 13, 2018, 07:25:05 pm
I more consider myself a queen...

Yeah. I knew something was up when you went to the wrong bathroom last time I took you out....



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Re: It's not a debate...it's warfare
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2018, 08:20:00 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on May 13, 2018, 08:13:48 pm
Yeah. I knew something was up when you went to the wrong bathroom last time I took you out....



Yeah, but it was just Target.  There is no wrong bathroom.
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Re: It's not a debate...it's warfare
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2018, 10:05:35 pm »
LOL!

Sorry, pathetic excuses.......ya'll can't debate the article/opinion piece, nor defend your position pertaining to same.

Instead, you attack the OP.

Hijack the thread and post OT pics....  all for a laugh to take the focus off your BS ideology.
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Re: It's not a debate...it's warfare
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2018, 10:10:40 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on May 13, 2018, 10:05:35 pm
LOL!

Sorry, pathetic excuses.......ya'll can't debate the article/opinion piece, nor defend your position pertaining to same.

Instead, you attack the OP.

Hijack the thread and post OT pics....  all for a laugh to take the focus off your BS ideology.

Now, don't be going after RiV like that!
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Re: It's not a debate...it's warfare
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2018, 10:14:31 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on May 13, 2018, 10:10:40 pm
Now, don't be going after RiV like that!

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Re: It's not a debate...it's warfare
« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2018, 10:19:46 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on May 13, 2018, 10:10:40 pm
Now, don't be going after RiV like that!

So typical of you @Sanguine  ^-^
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Re: It's not a debate...it's warfare
« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2018, 10:19:51 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on May 13, 2018, 10:05:35 pm
LOL!

Sorry, pathetic excuses.......ya'll can't debate the article/opinion piece, nor defend your position pertaining to same.

Instead, you attack the OP.

Hijack the thread and post OT pics....  all for a laugh to take the focus off your BS ideology.

I think it's pathetic to want a serious discussion about this kind of article.
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