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John Kelly: Illegal immigrants don't have skills, can't 'integrate' well into modern US society
Washington Examiner, May 11, 2018, Katelyn Caralle

White House chief of staff John Kelly said in an interview set to air Saturday that the majority of people who enter the U.S. illegally do not “assimilate” easily into modern American society.

“The vast majority of the people that move illegally into the United States are not bad people … but they’re also not people that would easily assimilate into the United States into our modern society,” Kelly told NPR.

Kelly also indicated that the people he is referring to don’t integrate well because they are generally rural people, they don’t speak English, and they don’t have skills.

“They’re coming here for a reason. And I sympathize with that reason,” Kelly said. “But the laws are the laws.”


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/john-kelly-illegal-immigrants-dont-have-skills-cant-integrate-well-into-modern-us-society

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Be prepared for the incoming, General.

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I think we all knew this.  About time someone in the hierarchy finally admitted it. 

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Cutting the grass is a skill
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Cutting the grass is a skill

Absolutely.  My 11 year old nephew does it quite well.

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Most around here will not learn English. If you want to communicate, learn Spanish.

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Have to post this once more:

"The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those who speak it."

- George Orwell

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This Administration started getting more things done, and stepping on its crank less, when John Kelly was made Chief of Staff.

He's a very, very good man, as anyone who served with him would attest.
« Last Edit: May 12, 2018, 06:23:28 pm by Maj. Bill Martin »

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I think we all knew this.  About time someone in the hierarchy finally admitted it. 

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The naked truth typically has that effect on them.

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Have to post this once more:

"The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those who speak it."

- George Orwell

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I think we all knew this.  About time someone in the hierarchy finally admitted it. 

Liberal heads exploding in 3...2...1...

We can't allow this to continue to happen.  These people are all undereducated taking low paying jobs and sucking off the American tax payer.   Build the wall.

Why downplay costs of illegal immigration if California is so sure of the benefits?

By Ben Shapiro

Special to The Sacramento Bee

 March 21, 2018 05:15 AM 

Updated March 23, 2018 06:11 AM

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/opinion/california-forum/article206132139.html#storylink=cpy

California allows illegal immigration.  Oregon and Washington are migration for those entering in California.
« Last Edit: May 12, 2018, 05:39:37 pm by Chosen Daughter »
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More talk about illegal immigration. (yawn)
It is hilarious how this is proclaimed the "truth," after 16 months and 10 million lies from this administration.
The boy who cried wall.

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....don't have skills, can't 'integrate' well into modern US society .....

Considering Hipsters and Millennials, wouldn't this be a contradiction?

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I was right.  The lefties are having a meltdown over Kelly's remarks. 

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/john-kelly-illegal-immigration-comments-not-racist/

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Obvious facts, you might think. But then, if you’re reading this, you’re probably not a leftist – because to leftists, it was like swearing in church. ThinkProgress called it a “racist rant,” Splinter called it a “racist rant,” a New York Daily News columnist called it a “racist rant” and, for variety, Rolling Stone called the remarks “racist comments,” Karen Tumulty called it “know-nothingism,” and the Plum Line decried Kelly’s “terrible immigration lies.” There are plenty more, but you get the idea.

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More talk about illegal immigration. (yawn)
It is hilarious how this is proclaimed the "truth," after 16 months and 10 million lies from this administration.
The boy who cried wall.

What a strange reaction.

It is the truth, regardless of what DC & Trump has or hasn't done.

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Have to post this once more:

"The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those who speak it."

- George Orwell

Excellent quote.
Principles matter. Words matter.

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https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/995695213699006465

John Kelly's great-grandfather, John DeMarco, is listed in census records as a day laborer who still did not speak English 18 years after coming to America. His wife still had a “No” in the “Speaks English” category 37 years after her arrival.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/john-kelly-forgotten-history-lessons

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My father in law came from Mexico. He spoke English but
quite slow. Concepts he expressed were basic.

I thought he was slow. He had been translating words
since his childhood. You have to think in the language
to master it.

Toledo has a large segment of Mexicans. By this he was
able to get along without immersing himself in language.

I play pool, mostly bar leagues. I played on a Latinos
team for a few years. Team members all spoke English
fairly well.

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He's not wrong in what he said.  The ones sneaking illegally into the U.S. from all points south aren't exactly IT experts looking for better paying jobs in the Silicon Valley.
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https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/995695213699006465

John Kelly's great-grandfather, John DeMarco, is listed in census records as a day laborer who still did not speak English 18 years after coming to America. His wife still had a “No” in the “Speaks English” category 37 years after her arrival.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/john-kelly-forgotten-history-lessons

A lot of the old-timers never mastered the English language.  My maternal grandfather didn't really speak much English.  Grandma, on the other hand, spoke English fluently.  Grandpap worked every day in a factory -- you would think being among English speakers all day 6 days a week, he would have learned the language, but he didn't.  Bu then again, according to my mother, he was not a good student back in the old country.  In fact, he had failed a grade and my younger grandmother caught up with him.  That's how they met. 

Grandma was a stay at home wife and mother.  But she learned English from listening to the radio, watching tv and reading the paper (with help from her children who were learning English in school). 

Important thing is that these immigrants came to the US legally, they worked hard and for the most part they contributed to this country -- they didn't take away from it.  The  only time my grandparents took assistance was during the Great Depression and as soon as they got back on their feet, the welfare stopped.  These were good people.  The illegals coming in now -- I think they mostly want to live off the taxpayers.

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A lot of the old-timers never mastered the English language.  My maternal grandfather didn't really speak much English.  Grandma, on the other hand, spoke English fluently.  Grandpap worked every day in a factory -- you would think being among English speakers all day 6 days a week, he would have learned the language, but he didn't.  Bu then again, according to my mother, he was not a good student back in the old country.  In fact, he had failed a grade and my younger grandmother caught up with him.  That's how they met. 

Grandma was a stay at home wife and mother.  But she learned English from listening to the radio, watching tv and reading the paper (with help from her children who were learning English in school). 

Important thing is that these immigrants came to the US legally, they worked hard and for the most part they contributed to this country -- they didn't take away from it.  The  only time my grandparents took assistance was during the Great Depression and as soon as they got back on their feet, the welfare stopped.  These were good people.  The illegals coming in now -- I think they mostly want to live off the taxpayers.

The jobs just aren't here for unskilled, non-English speakers any more.  In your grandad's day, you could earn a living by working hard.  Not so much now.

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https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/995695213699006465

John Kelly's great-grandfather, John DeMarco, is listed in census records as a day laborer who still did not speak English 18 years after coming to America. His wife still had a “No” in the “Speaks English” category 37 years after her arrival.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/john-kelly-forgotten-history-lessons

Did he come here illegally, as do the people to whom Kelly referred directly?

Also, this is not 100 years ago, where the majority of jobs were labor intensive, and education was much less important.

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Keep moving those goal posts obliviously.  It's why I enjoy arguing with border patriots.